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I’m coming clean on Extraterrestrials

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posted on May, 18 2007 @ 10:48 PM
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Sleeper, i have finished reading all the pages in this thread. I must admit it was rather easy, after one filters through all the trolling.

A question that I have wanted to know, but didn't see asked, is what your take on Lobsang Rampa is?

Not just him as a person/entity, but his concepts, what he taught, and his claims.




posted on May, 19 2007 @ 07:32 AM
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Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
Sleeper, i have finished reading all the pages in this thread. I must admit it was rather easy, after one filters through all the trolling.

A question that I have wanted to know, but didn't see asked, is what your take on Lobsang Rampa is?

Not just him as a person/entity, but his concepts, what he taught, and his claims.


I’ve never heard of Lobsang Rampa, I’m not much of a new age follower even though many accuse me of being one---lol

It may sound strange but I have little desire to read spiritualistic books, nevertheless I did a brief search on him and there is a ton of material that he wrote, he was definitely an enlighten individual who had otherworldly connections. My contacts confirm that he did but they will not elaborate further



posted on May, 19 2007 @ 08:53 AM
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Originally posted by Ectoterrestrial
Sleeper, it seems, is terrified of 'social responsibility' as a concept that could bring down his happy mood or, even worse, make him get off this forum and go to Africa to serve food to dying children.


Feel good compassion is the elixir that intoxicates the ego of those that sport their every deed prominently on their chests---for the entire world to see, but they often fall flat of real substance or effectiveness.

True humanitarians seldom boast and remain hidden in their actions----



posted on May, 19 2007 @ 09:50 AM
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Rampa is sort of new age, i guess. I enjoy the biographical information most of all.

The story of the area in the Himalayas that is warmed by thermal vents and is shrouded in mist and completely unseen to the world.

The story about the great hall he found with all sorts of fantastic technology, left by past civilizations but not yet found by western civilization (or, at least at that time).

The most interesting, in context to your story, is his claim to have had his soul translocated into another body, of a western man in England (Lobsang Rampa originally a Tibetan kid that took over the body of a western man.

If even one of those things were true, it would be fantastic enough.



posted on May, 19 2007 @ 04:07 PM
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Hey Sleeper, Thanks for your posts.

Infinite realities, dimensions, earth tv reality and games shows,,,Hillary--damn!

So fly straight, get out of your mind, nail yourself to the board--surfs up and while on the ride try not to indulge in negatives, wait....yea, took me three days to put that toothpaste back in the tube...what a mess...LOL!

Does our Miltie ever explain why us humans "think", "Do" what we do...you know the...beat yourself up on past stuff or project insane movies about the future?

Why are we wired for this robot routine...sleep, eat, work, entertainment over and over and over.?

If all time is just a quantum now in the bazillion dimensions, do we have lots of lives happening simultaniously?

I get the feeling that Miltie would like to see us get some new tech treats--sort of to speed up whatever is supposed to or rather has already happened.

I also get the feeling that we are being almost hypnotised into mundane, relatively safe little lives. Should we fight this follow the flock mentality or go to sleep?

If we are in for a major world changing kick ass back to the future stone age purge, do we get an individual vote on our being/soul placement in it?



posted on May, 20 2007 @ 09:04 AM
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Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
If even one of those things were true, it would be fantastic enough.


Well for me and others who have seen with our own eyes all the things you mentioned plus a whole lot more it’s all true.

Fantastic doesn’t begin to describe what’s going on out there while most remain unaware in this big blue nursery hanging out in space---clinging to a star that is clinging to a galaxy that is hurling through the universe at mind-boggling speeds without ever hitting a speed bump---which would certainly stir up the millions of nurseries if it did

The fact that we don’t feel any movement, and the night skies look the same with all those billions of stars predictably where they should be---who is to say, and more so, why should anyone believe that things happen that way? Scientists know that galaxies move, and move very fast but they cannot see them moving---way too much space between them. But millions of people believe because scientists say that it is so, at least that is partly how things work in the cosmos, and that is true. The cosmos is like an ocean filled with mysterious bodies some moving like schools of fish, others hiding in nooks and crannies but how big is this fishbowl anyway? That’s got the best minds puzzled because in the human mind infinite does not compute.

It takes some knowledge and big leaps of conjecture for things to begin to makes sense in the cosmos, and right now cosmologist are up against a very thick brick wall with no rope to climb over it or battering ram capable of breaking through it----where to from here?

What is the average person going to do if scientist can’t pull more tricks out of that magician’s hat? Will some cosmologists break ranks and admit we live in an inconceivable universe and they know zilch? Or will they continue to throw the world the non existent dark matter bone and other such fantasies?

Then again no need to pull the wool over anyone’s eyes because space is a pretty thing to look at and not much more for the vast collection of human minds that even bother to look up at night.



posted on May, 20 2007 @ 09:20 AM
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Originally posted by muse801
I also get the feeling that we are being almost hypnotised into mundane, relatively safe little lives. Should we fight this follow the flock mentality or go to sleep?


Don't mean to change the subject of this thread (sleeper's story), I'd just like to touch on the subject of hypnosis because I feel it might be important.

Perhaps you do not realize how far or deep hypnosis really goes in our society. We hypnotize each other every day and every moment in our interactions. Furthermore we are constantly being hypnotized by the blabber box (TV), radio, and perhaps to some extent other media. These visual and auditory cues really do only one thing - prime us for some subconscious message that gets broadcast into our minds without us even knowing it happen.

That could be anything from "buy this product" to "so and so is evil and so and so is good" or worse. Regardless of the various motives behind these hypnotic suggestions, we do have internal filtering systems that screen external influences based on our belief systems. Some people more than others can catch them and erase them, though everyone is susceptible to one measure or the other, it's just a matter of striking the right "note".

Hypnosis is really a process of suppression of the conscious mind and getting access to the sub-conscious. In most people that means boring the hell out of the left brain hemisphere so it says "Ok, I give up, I'm off to do something else" so that the right hemisphere can take dominance. That is not to say that conscious mind "has left the building", it has just been subdued.

Unfortunately, this field has seen so much advancements in the past 100 years that hypnosis today can be induced through all kinds of artificial means without the need for the hypnotist to actually be present. I say unfortunately because its applications are not so benign in most cases, but there are beneficial applications such as accelerated learning for example, though I'm yet to see a device on the public market that does it...someone just needs to make one and put it out into public domain



posted on May, 20 2007 @ 10:19 AM
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Originally posted by muse801
Hey Sleeper, Thanks for your posts.

Infinite realities, dimensions, earth tv reality and games shows,,,Hillary--damn!


Hi muse,

Yeah, it’s enough to tempt a sober man to drink two glasses of wine---lol



So fly straight, get out of your mind, nail yourself to the board--surfs up and while on the ride try not to indulge in negatives, wait....yea, took me three days to put that toothpaste back in the tube...what a mess...LOL!


If you really got the toothpaste back into the tube I say you have earned your place in the sun, so go past go and jail and straight to boardwalk---I haven’t played that game in twenty years so if that don’t make any sense that might me why---



Does our Miltie ever explain why us humans "think", "Do" what we do...you know the...beat yourself up on past stuff or project insane movies about the future?


Thinking can be over rated, and sometimes should be avoided if at all possible, in that movie “Hitchhiker’s guide to the Galaxy” on planets Vogon, I believe, every time a thought or idea came into their heads they were smacked down by a shovel that came out of the ground, if you haven’t seen it rent the movie---that scene was priceless---
The rest of the movie was good too.



Why are we wired for this robot routine...sleep, eat, work, entertainment over and over and over.?


For no other reason but to piss us off---at least those of us awake enough to realize how monotonous this life can be---that’s the worst thing about this planet, and another movie that sheds a bit of light on the why---“Ground hog day”



If all time is just a quantum now in the bazillion dimensions, do we have lots of lives happening simultaniously?


On our level we don’t, but on higher levels they do


I get the feeling that Miltie would like to see us get some new tech treats--sort of to speed up whatever is supposed to or rather has already happened.



Everything we could ever imagine has always existed, and toys can reduce drudgery on planets like earth if put to good use, hence the computer many of us play on every day---they are portals into the minds of millions of other humans---that’s some toy don’t you think?




I also get the feeling that we are being almost hypnotised into mundane, relatively safe little lives. Should we fight this follow the flock mentality or go to sleep?


I get a headache if I sleep too much---but some get headaches when they try to grasp the big picture---perhaps a happy medium somewhere in between the two extremes---we are all different and we need different amounts of information to get through this life---

Struggling and frustrations may be indicators that we are trying too hard---if you can’t enjoy the flowers and the other gifts all around us then we are wasting this life. This life need not be difficult, should not be difficult, especially for those who are aware.



If we are in for a major world changing kick ass back to the future stone age purge, do we get an individual vote on our being/soul placement in it?


All but the worst of us get a vote in all of our lives to a certain degree including the one we presently have to endure

No matter our perceived problems the sun will continue to shine---no law against enjoying the sunshine, that’s its sole purpose---pun intended---lol

If we can’t enjoy the little things in this world how we going to handle the big stuff that awaits on other worlds as well as on this one?



posted on May, 20 2007 @ 11:22 AM
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Hi sleeper,

Just popped in for my "dose of sleeper" and noticed you mentioned "Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy", if you thought the movie was good by ALL MEANS go to your favorite book retailer and buy everything written by Douglas Adams!

The late, GREAT Douglas Adams (he suddenly died, WAY TOO YOUNG, a few years ago
) had one of the sharpest minds, most excellent wits and gargantuan talent in the writing category.

He was very much into computers (Apple/MAC junky), technology and how it impacts humanity. He managed to get a Computer Game of HHGTTU produced way back in 1997 or 1996 that was light years ahead of its time and a hilarious blast to play.

Sorry for the off topic post, but I feel Douglas Adams should be remembered and revered at every opportunity.


Springer...



posted on May, 20 2007 @ 12:10 PM
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Originally posted by Springer
Hi sleeper,

Just popped in for my "dose of sleeper" and noticed you mentioned "Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy", if you thought the movie was good by ALL MEANS go to your favorite book retailer and buy everything written by Douglas Adams!


Hi Springer,

Thanks I might do that, I missed out on most of the television series and caught the tail end before it ended so I had to see the movie when it came out. The movie is goofy but nevertheless very enjoyable; I bought the dvd and have watched it several times since---lol



The late, GREAT Douglas Adams (he suddenly died, WAY TOO YOUNG, a few years ago
) had one of the sharpest minds, most excellent wits and gargantuan talent in the writing category.


I know nothing about him but his subtle messages in the little I have seen definitely comes from a highly enlighten mind---far too many miss out on those simple truths from the likes of the Douglas Adams, and the simple joys that seep out from those truths

Two thumbs up for Douglas Adams



posted on May, 20 2007 @ 01:49 PM
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Hi Sleeper,

This is a first time posting in this thread for me. Very enlightening. Awesome blog to!! You said in a previous reply a couple of pages back that we, Absolutely, all had a "guide" watching over us. I take that as we all have our own little Milton watching over us. To break it down another way, we all have an ET watching everything we do. Some guides must chose to let us know they are there and most don't let people know. What if we want to know they are there? What if we want to remember them if they show themselves? Or in due time? OR is it never?

Ever since I was little, I've always pondered why we are here. What else is out there. What purpose we serve here on earth. What makes us so special when the universe is so huge. What you say puts a lot of sense into some of the questions I've always asked myself. I've always had my mind open to a bigger picture, hoping that there was one. I hope your answers keep coming. Some of my questions are getting answered one way or another.

Thanks



posted on May, 20 2007 @ 04:35 PM
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Originally posted by sleeper

Originally posted by Ectoterrestrial
Sleeper, it seems, is terrified of 'social responsibility' as a concept that could bring down his happy mood or, even worse, make him get off this forum and go to Africa to serve food to dying children.


Feel good compassion is the elixir that intoxicates the ego of those that sport their every deed prominently on their chests---for the entire world to see, but they often fall flat of real substance or effectiveness.

True humanitarians seldom boast and remain hidden in their actions----


I have to agree with this to a certain extent. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems that there are two main paths to "enlightenment" or whatever you want to call the evolution of the soul in the context that we can understand. One is "service to others" and one is "service to self".
The idea is that one isn't "better" or "worse" than the other, they are just polarizations that individuals choose throughout many incarnations to come back to the original stillness of being.
Most individuals on Earth or in this "dimension" are in the process of choosing their spiritual polarity, and the choosing can take a long time.
This doesn't necessarily mean that individuals that seem self involved or selfish or own SUVs are on the path of "service to self" or that people that purport to love eveyone and carry pastel yoga mats are aligned with "service to others", we're in a kind of motley mixing pot.



posted on May, 20 2007 @ 07:41 PM
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Originally posted by Quazi176
Hi Sleeper,

This is a first time posting in this thread for me. Very enlightening. Awesome blog to!! You said in a previous reply a couple of pages back that we, Absolutely, all had a "guide" watching over us. I take that as we all have our own little Milton watching over us. To break it down another way, we all have an ET watching everything we do. Some guides must chose to let us know they are there and most don't let people know. What if we want to know they are there? What if we want to remember them if they show themselves? Or in due time? OR is it never?



Hi Auazi,

We all have our bodyguards/ soul protectors if you will, that work with us and against us if need be. Sometimes they are the escorts to far worst places should we deserve such a service. They are completely impartial otherwise they would not have the job----most are not like Milton. But they will help us reach our goals whether good or bad, their jobs are to serve our desires---but, they will depending on where our heart is give us ample warning shots over our head when we stray.

But only so many before they let us fall and then they will take us as far down as need be even into the pits of hell where people remain until they can’t stand it any longer and decide to work their way back up from that pit. Hell is not fire it’s a very cold, lonely place that is void of other souls and is not the same for everyone

Some abductions are visits to such places kind of the scared straight type of deal

The other side of the coin is better, the good side where they take people to visit other planets and relatives like in my blog

They seem to let people remember the bad trips far more often the good ones, and that’s mostly their call regardless of what we want---even though sometimes they will ask knowing they will not let us remember.

Never is a long time, most everyone will get a visit they will remember, when escorted off this planet, but millions will get to remember parts of their fantastic voyages before departure and remain quiet less people think them nuts.




Ever since I was little, I've always pondered why we are here. What else is out there. What purpose we serve here on earth. What makes us so special when the universe is so huge. What you say puts a lot of sense into some of the questions I've always asked myself. I've always had my mind open to a bigger picture, hoping that there was one. I hope your answers keep coming. Some of my questions are getting answered one way or another.
Thanks


I like to paint a rosy picture because it is a rosy picture, but here on earth rosy is offensive to people who are buried deep in hate, envy, and self-righteousness that they can’t see the abyss for their ego, and then it’s too late


That’s primarily what this life is about to down grade the ego centric chaff and upgrade the self-effacing wheat----sneaky aren’t they---



posted on May, 20 2007 @ 07:58 PM
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Originally posted by angst18 This doesn't necessarily mean that individuals that seem self involved or selfish or own SUVs are on the path of "service to self" or that people that purport to love eveyone and carry pastel yoga mats are aligned with "service to others", we're in a kind of motley mixing pot.


Exactly, we like to hate people who we deem selfish to cover our own selfish reality. That’s why we humans make lousy judges and juries for that matter. We all carry certain prejudices and are seldom partial.

Primarily we have this weakness because we can’t see a person’s true motivation for doing what they do. Many people do things only for show, charity towards others is one of them---tax deductions don’t’ count---


A persons wealth or lack there of is no indication of what they are made of, yet we tend to judge on that criteria alone.



posted on May, 20 2007 @ 09:50 PM
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Since there is a Douglas Adams lovefest, i want to chime in and advise Sleeper to start with "Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency".

That is the best book ever, and the sequel runs a close second.



posted on May, 20 2007 @ 10:15 PM
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Originally posted by sleeper
Exactly, we like to hate people who we deem selfish to cover our own selfish reality. That’s why we humans make lousy judges and juries for that matter. We all carry certain prejudices and are seldom partial.

Primarily we have this weakness because we can’t see a person’s true motivation for doing what they do. Many people do things only for show, charity towards others is one of them---tax deductions don’t’ count---


A persons wealth or lack there of is no indication of what they are made of, yet we tend to judge on that criteria alone.


Because even those that "do good" do so for a feeling of accomplishment or to fulfill a need to help. almost every act, however altruistic, is generally motivated by the knowledge that we'll get something back in return, be it a feeling of accomplishment or fulfillment or satisfaction. There really aren't many 'unselfish' acts, the fact that we have complex emotions pretty much guarantees this.

The thing that concerns me is that I'm aware almost every minute of every day that the privileges I take for granted cause others to suffer greatly. I spend a bunch of money on my dog. I eat out a lot, I own an ipod and two computers, I collect old Japanese woodblock representations of ghosts and demons. I spend alot of money on things that I don't need to survive, while others don't even have clean water to drink - while their children are dying from dysentery. I am a perfect example of the average American (other than the fact that I'm aware of my opulence) and it makes me sad, but I don't do anything about it. What does that say about me? About America?




[edit on 20-5-2007 by angst18]



posted on May, 20 2007 @ 10:41 PM
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Hello Again Sleeper,

It's Bert (CareWeMust) again in Chicago, with questions about church.

This morning I went to church with the wife and kids like we do most
every Sunday. The Pastor was sermonizing on his favorite subjects
of helping those who are less fortunate and living to one's full personal
potential.

Why do so many people on this planet get turned off by church? What
is offensive about the concept of helping your fellow man and living life
to it's fullest in every possible aspect? These questions crossed my mind
this morning, so I made a mental note to pose them to you, my wise
friend. Thankyou 4 all you do Mr. Sleeper!



posted on May, 20 2007 @ 11:25 PM
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Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
Since there is a Douglas Adams lovefest, i want to chime in and advise Sleeper to start with "Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency".

That is the best book ever, and the sequel runs a close second.


Thanks for the tip texan, I knew I should have taken that speed reading course back in the day---lol



posted on May, 20 2007 @ 11:27 PM
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Sleeper you mention abductions and how they can be a scared straight tactic.

what about the abductions that have to do with ET needing some food?



posted on May, 21 2007 @ 04:35 AM
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Sleeper is there 1 supreme being that rules over the universe? if not then which entity or entities rule over earth?




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