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I’m coming clean on Extraterrestrials

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posted on Feb, 27 2007 @ 01:13 AM
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Dear Sleeper ,

Thank you for your postings. I skipped about 50 pages but only because i wanted to see how the thread had progressed. I must say so myself that this is a very interesting post truth or not. I believe you to the extent that my brains programming allows but before i believe further i must read more and calculate further data. I have a few questions and i'd appreciate it very much if you answered them for me.

Questions: What are your views on Buddhism? This question sparked in my mind as i read that someone had asked if you think some people are here to help others and also serve as guides to more healthy ways of thinking and treating fellow humans. Examples: Jesus Christ "assuming he existed" , Siddhartha Guatama , The Dalai Lama.

Is there a way one can contact these extra terrestrials? It would be most interesting and intriguing if there was a way to do so.

Thank you for your time.




posted on Feb, 27 2007 @ 08:05 AM
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Originally posted by OBE1

Sleeper, any chance you'll be doing a C2C guest spot sometime? I'd be willing to stay up past bedtime.



Hello OBE1



My people haven’t started talking with their people yet---



posted on Feb, 27 2007 @ 08:10 AM
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Originally posted by Esoteric Teacher

Originally posted by sleeper

No one wants the other side of the coin.


No one? Could it be possible that a soul was assigned to finding truth compliance with the other side of the coin?
Thanks,
E.T.


They may have signed up for it but that don’t mean they are going to like it----



posted on Feb, 27 2007 @ 08:14 AM
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Originally posted by Esoteric Teacher

Originally posted by MrPenny

How do you really confront someone here?


Present the Facts that they have omitted in their efforts to present a given perspective which counter their stance on the subject.

Here is a link concerning "Debate Tactics":

politics.abovetopsecret.com...



There is no debating with scoundrels and cowards



posted on Feb, 27 2007 @ 08:34 AM
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Originally posted by Redeemer
Questions: What are your views on Buddhism? This question sparked in my mind as i read that someone had asked if you think some people are here to help others and also serve as guides to more healthy ways of thinking and treating fellow humans. Examples: Jesus Christ "assuming he existed" , Siddhartha Guatama , The Dalai Lama.


Buddha like other spiritual leaders did his part to alleviate the hardship of the physical illusional realities that plague those on this planet---kind of like a prison minister.


Is there a way one can contact these extra terrestrials? It would be most interesting and intriguing if there was a way to do so.
Thank you for your time.


That would be like giving out the phone number of Britney Spears---she probably wouldn’t appreciate all the calls.

But unlike Britney, they know who you are; they know more about you than you know about yourself. And they determine how much contact to have with you and how much if any they will leave with you to remember.



posted on Feb, 27 2007 @ 03:13 PM
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I will try to word this carefully - because many have phobias/fear of what they don’t understand - or want to. Remember this is not about religious beliefs - but about ETs and Reveal.

Billy Meier has been labeled a hoax. I don’t agree - because there is a pattern. In his story he was contacted throughout his youth. As he got older information was revealed to him - he was given specific instructions. He was told he could reveal specific details - but not others. He did not listen - he revealed everything. At which time all communication was terminated. I believe he then tried to create his own proof.

Joseph Smith was contacted throughout his youth. As he got older information was revealed to him - he was given specific instructions. Which he followed. There is at least one time he broke trust and was penalized. I believe Joseph Smith was a contactee. There is much in his original writings that is quite advanced in a metaphysical way of thinking. As man has done with everything else - the original writings have been corrupted over the years.

And don’t forget Moses when it comes to Reveal and Obedience.

I believe in an advanced intelligent consciousness that reveals truths and provides methods to advance human consciousness and understanding. I believe this consciousness can take form and be called Jesus - is eternal - but not a one time shot.

So I would not call myself Christian - nor do I believe in how that belief interprets ancient writings - or original sin - and obedience. There is definitely missed meanings - in the error of human translation. (there is actually a site on the net that translates the bible from the viewpoint of being a light being - its interesting).

But - there does seem to be a pattern of - obedience and reveal.

QUESTION: as this pattern seems to have been ongoing. Do you think/believe there are others like yourself - who are currently test subjects or even more advanced in the purpose of Reveal by Obedience. AND - as it seems obvious there is an exact plan - do you think/believe more detail is being revealed in the now - and for what purpose.

[edit on 27-2-2007 by Annee]



posted on Feb, 27 2007 @ 03:48 PM
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Originally posted by Annee
QUESTION: as this pattern seems to have been ongoing. Do you think/believe there are others like yourself - who are currently test subjects or even more advanced in the purpose of Reveal by Obedience.


Yeah there is and we are thinking of forming a trade union---the pay is lousy---




AND - as it seems obvious there is an exact plan - do you think/believe more detail is being revealed in the now



For now the information is for the few who know there is a bigger picture, and want some kind of confirmation no matter how diminutive



and for what purpose.



For the purpose of baby steps---the vast sea of humanity is nowhere near ready to give up their comfort zone.



posted on Feb, 27 2007 @ 04:07 PM
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Ugh! That Comfort Zone makes me nuts. I just want to scream WAKE UP!

But then - if a craft landed in my front yard - would I get on it?? Could be walking into the Fantasy Island - - or a stew pot.

Its like I want to get off this planet - - but I want to know if I'm scheduled for a galactic Cabo Wabo with Sammy - - or a cooking pot with the Carib Tribe in the Carribean Jungle.



posted on Feb, 27 2007 @ 05:10 PM
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Thank you sleeper for your timely response. You have been very consistent with your answers and with everything you have said from what i can tell. I encourage you to keep up the good work. I will be following this thread and if anymore questions come to my mind , i'll be sure to ask.




posted on Feb, 27 2007 @ 10:59 PM
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Sleeper,

Have you asked "Milton" the following 2 specific questions and got a specific "yes" or "no".

1. Is the Bible the infallible word of God?

2. Is Jesus Christ God in the flesh?

I'm not interested in what was inferred, or you would led to believe, etc. Only these 2 specific questions and definitive answers.

Thank you.



posted on Feb, 28 2007 @ 12:31 AM
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Originally posted by GLDNGUN
Sleeper,

Have you asked "Milton" the following 2 specific questions and got a specific "yes" or "no".

1. Is the Bible the infallible word of God?

2. Is Jesus Christ God in the flesh?

I'm not interested in what was inferred, or you would led to believe, etc. Only these 2 specific questions and definitive answers.

Thank you.


(MY TAKE ON YOUR QUESTION, NOT SLEEPERS)

if you read through the long threads im not sure you are not gonna like the answer to your questions.

also,

im not sure you are thinking of God in the right terms.

A simple yes or no would leave you with more questions than answers.

Nothing that complex ever could be answered with a simple yes or no.


[edit on 28-2-2007 by moderndayHanSolo]

[edit on 28-2-2007 by moderndayHanSolo]



posted on Feb, 28 2007 @ 01:19 AM
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Originally posted by moderndayHanSolo
if you read through the long threads im not sure you are not gonna like the answer to your questions.


I have read quite a bit, but certainly not all. I have read enough to know what "Milton" (and other "ET's") would like mankind to believe, but I'm looking for a direct answer to a direct question (or 2).


im not sure you are thinking of God in the right terms.


Oh, well let me be crystal clear. I'm "thinking" of the Creator of the universe and the God of the Bible. That's the "God" I'm referring to in my questions.


A simple yes or no would leave you with more questions than answers.


Perhaps, if one were to have blind faith in what an "ET" has to say.


Nothing that complex ever could be answered with a simple yes or no.


That's exactly what I'd expect an "ET" to say that doesn't want to give a direct answer. Actually, the 2 questions are very simple. The Bible claims to be THE message from God for mankind. Jesus Christ claimed to be God in the flesh, or the "Son of God" - the Messiah. All I am asking is if "Sleeper" asked "Milton" about these 2 things directly and got direct answers.

I've been told that there are 2 questions that "aliens" will go to all lengths to avoid answering directly since they are not allowed to lie about these 2 things, so I'm putting it to the test. Let's see if we get direct answers...or the run around.



posted on Feb, 28 2007 @ 08:17 AM
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GLDNGUN

I've been told that there are 2 questions that "aliens" will go to all lengths to avoid answering directly since they are not allowed to lie about these 2 things



Just curious where you heard that? It sounds familiar to me, but I don't know why...



posted on Feb, 28 2007 @ 08:46 AM
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Originally posted by GLDNGUN
Sleeper,

Have you asked "Milton" the following 2 specific questions and got a specific "yes" or "no".

Is the Bible the infallible word of God?



Parts of the Bible were inspired by higher beings but most of it was discarded and the final version of the Bible was written by fallible men.




Is Jesus Christ God in the flesh?



No



I'm not interested in what was inferred, or you would led to believe, etc. Only these 2 specific questions and definitive answers.
Thank you.


I have a feeling you will be interested in more than those two questions now that I have answered them not to your liking

This is not a “find religion” thread----for those looking for religion please go to many of the fine religious institutions in your city---all of them do good work and will help you find peace of mind---and salvation.

ETs are not against any religion, or any beliefs---and this garden here on earth is filled with choices, some choices will be fruitful and enlightening and some will not.



posted on Feb, 28 2007 @ 09:46 AM
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Originally posted by sleeper


Is Jesus Christ God in the flesh?



No


I am offended by that comment. My guess is you were hoping for that.

The first thought I had when I read that was; blasphemer. That's from my perspective as an Evangelical Christian. Of course, that's my faith speaking.

From another perspective, I must admit I do not know if you are right or wrong. I do know the absolute finality of the statement is a mistake. None of us were there, did not witness, cannot be certain.

I guess you're speaking from your faith also.



posted on Feb, 28 2007 @ 10:12 AM
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Originally posted by MrPenny

Originally posted by sleeper


Is Jesus Christ God in the flesh?



No


I am offended by that comment. My guess is you were hoping for that.


The person who posed the question was hoping for that, they wanted to get the Christians who are on the fence about this thread off that fence---good strategy

I don’t wish to offend anyone’s religion or beliefs, but I can’t tell a lie, however, I can chose not to respond.



The first thought I had when I read that was; blasphemer. That's from my perspective as an Evangelical Christian. Of course, that's my faith speaking.


For those that believe the literal story of Jesus, he was crucified specifically for the offence of “Blasphemer” by the Sanhedrin, the highest Jewish court at that time.



From another perspective, I must admit I do not know if you are right or wrong. I do know the absolute finality of the statement is a mistake. None of us were there, did not witness, cannot be certain.


All the good stuff in this universe requires either faith or experience---and neither can provide proof to the skeptic.



I guess you're speaking from your faith also.


Perhaps



posted on Feb, 28 2007 @ 10:26 AM
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These types of posts, all though a huge amount of time has been spent on them (especially reading wall 102 pages over the last 3 days..) are completely frustrating.

All this effort and nothing has been proven, shown to be true or backed by anything that you could describe as substantiated.

Unfortuantely, and I am sincere when I say this, as I do not want insult sleeper in anyway... but it strikes me that a lot of this is straight of the top of the grey stuff.

Sometimes I think it would be interesting to remove an entire thread and then requestion a poster on his thoughts without the ability to check what they wrote last time they answered it.



posted on Feb, 28 2007 @ 10:45 AM
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Sleeper,

Is there a prohercy where we are all finally freed from the deception, or is it on an indiviual bases where only a few get freed at a time bassed on indiviual effort?



posted on Feb, 28 2007 @ 11:15 AM
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Originally posted by ixiy
Sleeper,

Is there a prohercy where we are all finally freed from the deception, or is it on an indiviual bases where only a few get freed at a time bassed on indiviual effort?


Prophecies have two functions one is to control people the other to sell them something---both strategies have been very successful

We only gain true knowledge from individual effort and experience---blood, sweat, and tears, and as much fun as we can squeeze in between those three constants---there are no short cuts to enlightenment.



posted on Feb, 28 2007 @ 01:16 PM
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Hi Sleeper

I am still reading this thread. Just came here after a couple of day abscence. I find it interesting that the things you say have been given to me in what I said in the time traveller thread. It isn't word for word, but the idea is the same.

I can only describe what comes to me as a voice in my head. I say it is God, because that is the only thing like this that I can relate to. It is definately a superior being talking to me and it is much like the way you describe ET communications.

I am still trying to make sense of what is happening to me, because it is not a common accepted thing for most people.

It always is to help people....I get a lot of "I just finished praying to God. Are you an Angel?" when I listen to the communication and act on what I am told to do.

Am I totally crazy? Should I get strong meds, as people have suggested? Free room and board?

If I stop responding to the communication, would that be the right thing to do? I can't stop hearing it, I have tried.



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