My Visit with NY 9/11 Truth, page 1
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Topic started on 11-1-2007 @ 09:41 AM by SkepticOverlord
I had an opportunity (finally) to attend a meeting of the local 9/11 Truth chapter here in New York, NY 9|11 Truth, with whom I've been impressed.

Anyone who has payed attention to my posts on 9/11 conspiracy issues certainly know I have some concerns with a few of the so-called "Truth Movement" groups that are springing up. Some seem more concerned with self-serving attention getting than actual results.

After spending over two hours with the 15 fine folks, and ATS receiving a warm reception, I was impressed that these are the people putting feet on the street and trying hard to raise awareness of our frustrations with the "official" explanations for the attacks on 9/11.

We had an excellent brainstorming session on awareness ideas, some of them could be very unique and ground-breaking. And part of the discussion involved AboveTopSecret.com lending a hand in helping this NY-based 9/11 Truth organization in building awareness and spreading the word about their activities.

Our "lending a hand" will likely take several forms as we figure out how we can best provide much needed help that capitalizes on our phenomenal traffic (January 2007 is on track to be our best month ever). As we finalize things, we'll post them to this thread.

But in the mean time, we're likely to see a few new members as attendees from list night's meeting and others join ATS and say hello. And I'm certain our fine members will accord this group the same warm and friendly welcome I received from them.


More coming soon...


reply posted on 11-1-2007 @ 06:39 PM by SkepticOverlord
Originally posted by Griff
Any thoughts yet on an icon?

Ah... I thought you never ask.

Why yes...

A nine hundred and eleven pound gorilla.

www.911gorilla.com...
(place holder site)

If we can come up with an amazing illustration of the "911 Pound Gorilla" that has the potential to become an internationally recognized "brand icon", then we just might have something.


reply posted on 11-1-2007 @ 07:05 PM by TruthSeekerMP
Originally posted by SkepticOverlord
Originally posted by Griff
Any thoughts yet on an icon?

Ah... I thought you never ask.

Why yes...

A nine hundred and eleven pound gorilla.

www.911gorilla.com...
(place holder site)

If we can come up with an amazing illustration of the "911 Pound Gorilla" that has the potential to become an internationally recognized "brand icon", then we just might have something.



I like - alot. I also know some artists who may be interested in taking this project under their wings.


reply posted on 11-1-2007 @ 07:11 PM by Willard856
I'm going to have to bring up the counterpoint here. The reason that marketing for the items SO listed work is because people, at the most basic level, want those things. They want food, they want a computer, they want music players. And those companies deliver. They differentiate between products, and thus provide alternatives. They taste good. The music quality is best. Mickey makes us laugh. Every kid wants an iPod to look cool.

The average person doesn't want an alternative to the official version of 9/11. You can throw as many spears as you want in the official story, and it will never penetrate the mind of the average joe. I've read a lot of the posts on ATS concerning 9/11. I don't consider myself a stupid person. I consider myself open-minded. But there is absolutely nothing on this site concerning 9/11 that makes me think that it was anything other than al-Qaeda terrorists acting at the behest of OBL. Sure, there are some inconsistencies, but these are more easily attributable to incompetence, bad luck or stress than a government conspiracy. And I think the majority of average people feel the same way as I do. So how would marketing work for these people? They aren't looking for alternatives.

The only thing that most people seem to agree on is that the Government knows more than it is telling about 9/11. And that, I'm afraid, is a fairly common response world wide towards governmental secrecy. Most Australians will tell you they think there is more to Pine Gap than the Government is saying. But tell someone that a cruise missile took at the Pentagon, and they will laugh at you, despite bent light poles, hole sizes and the rest evidence put forward.

It is admirable that people are passionate about a subject that they feel strongly about. But what is your end-state? What do you ultimately want to achieve? Do you have have an agreed version of what you will communicate (and let's face it, even 9/11 truthers disagree on a range of topics)? If you are going to use symbols and jingles, how do you ensure that whenever someone sees or hears it, they don't just laugh and roll there eyes? Are you going to distance yourself from the more outlandish theories? Because detractors will tar you with the same brush, whether you like it or not.

It is exciting to get traction, but don't let the joy of the moment cause you to overstep too early. For something like this, you need to slowly penetrate the market, not blast into existence. The first time I saw anything questioning 9/11, it was a powerpoint on the Pentagon. I thought it was interesting, and so passed it on to friends (even though I thought it was wrong, and still do). Loose Change works, because people get it through e-mails and links, similar to viral marketing. Start with bite sized chunks. Hell, start with baby formula. Start with something the average person would say is a legitimate concern. Then develop your hypothesis as momentum builds. Forget referencing Northwoods, most people who can read can tell that it is old, never got approved, and is a big leap from going from something like that to something like 9/11. Think Scientology marketing as an example. They don't come out with some of their more outlandish claims, they start off as self-help and self-development. It works.

I'm not trying to put a dampner on things, but merely trying to encourage caution. To deny ignorance, the general population must be receptive to having their attitudes changed, and this won't happen if you hit them between the eyes with a sustained marketing campaign from the get-go. You need to (and please excuse a military term) shape the battlespace for success. Hope you take this advice with the good intentions with which I give it, and best of luck!
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