Greer sucks ass!

Stanton T Freidman is the real deal!!!

If Greer has rock hard evidence why not show it?

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Originally posted by Nygdan

, I don't see anyone in the American government with enough guts to openly attach his/her name to this.

Is there a single reason that they should??? Greer has offered up nothing other than whats allways been offered, stories.

Why should all of congress hold sessions to investigate UFOs, if the most ardent UFO supporters can't offer up any physical evidence?

Dr. Greer doesn't owe you anything, and he doesn't owe the UFO community either. He is waiting for a court or congress hearing.
They have solid evidence, radar tapes and photos and report from 500 witnesses. That is the most solid court case I have heard of. Yet, they don't want to hear them.

You gotta have an IQ of 4 to not understand what's going on.

Originally posted by tock

They have solid evidence, radar tapes and photos and report from 500 witnesses. That is the most solid court case I have heard of. Yet, they don't want to hear them.

You don't hold these sorts of things until the hearing... you get them out so that there is public support behind you.

Mr. Greer, where are the tapes?

Originally posted by tock

Dr. Greer doesn't owe you anything, and he doesn't owe the UFO community either. He is waiting for a court or congress hearing.
They have solid evidence, radar tapes and photos and report from 500 witnesses. That is the most solid court case I have heard of. Yet, they don't want to hear them.

You gotta have an IQ of 4 to not understand what's going on.

Debunkers call the Disclosure Project story telling. The fact that it contains direct testimony from high-ranking officers, up to colonels, and their 'stories' (:@@, is easily filtered out.

The near-total negligence of this list of witnesses by the corporate media, the more you think of it, is absolutely stunning. Some nobody in the Air Force claims to shave shot a picture of the O'Hare airport ufo -- he gets national airplay. The Disclosure Project witnesses do not get that attention is because THEY are for real, and have something important to tell us.

The more the media ignores this, the less credibility they gain.

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Originally posted by Togetic

Originally posted by tock

They have solid evidence, radar tapes and photos and report from 500 witnesses. That is the most solid court case I have heard of. Yet, they don't want to hear them.

You don't hold these sorts of things until the hearing... you get them out so that there is public support behind you.

Mr. Greer, where are the tapes?

Togetic, where is your support to the DP? Why would he share this with M. Jo Blo that will do nothing but chat about it? What's the point? They have understood something, its a waste of energy to debate with skeptics. There is a load of other important stuff to do, rather than waste the precious time.

So did anyone go to this conference? What's the cliffs?

Originally posted by tock
Togetic, where is your support to the DP? Why would he share this with M. Jo Blo that will do nothing but chat about it? What's the point? They have understood something, its a waste of energy to debate with skeptics. There is a load of other important stuff to do, rather than waste the precious time.

While we're sitting here marking time, why not release the evidence? If people are willing to talk to Congress, a public institution, then why are they not willing to release their information now? The Disclosure Project has no notion of public relations strategy. That, of course, is assuming that they have the information they claim and are not artificially inflating their numbers.

And on the same note, why should we ask the Congress to waste its time when they may get nothing but a repeat of the press conference, which is all over You Tube?

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Originally posted by Togetic

Originally posted by tock
Togetic, where is your support to the DP? Why would he share this with M. Jo Blo that will do nothing but chat about it? What's the point? They have understood something, its a waste of energy to debate with skeptics. There is a load of other important stuff to do, rather than waste the precious time.

While we're sitting here marking time, why not release the evidence? If people are willing to talk to Congress, a public institution, then why are they not willing to release their information now? The Disclosure Project has no notion of public relations strategy. That, of course, is assuming that they have the information they claim and are not artificially inflating their numbers.

And on the same note, why should we ask the Congress to waste its time when they may get nothing but a repeat of the press conference, which is all over You Tube?

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National Press club = 20 witnesses.
Congress Hearing = 500 witnesses.

Hey Truth Seeker, you are in Austin, too? Cool. Thanks for posting.

Where are the naysayers? That's cool that Dr Greer is starting to release more info, but him sitting on the info is part of his ace in the hole. If something starts happening to him or the witnesses, he's going to release it all.






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Thanks truthseeker for posting the video link. Having watched it thru here is my synopsis:

Greer's main argument was that ETs want humans with conscious minds to be be meditating on a peaceful world based on a new paradigm of love rather than fear, followed up with action to make that future manifest.

His claims included:
* Common tech like nightvision & fibre optics are reverse engineered alien tech (re corso).
* The military already possesses 'free' energy tech.
* The majority of the military industrial folks in the know want disclosure to happen.
* A major G7 nation would soon be putting its full weight behind disclosure, and that nothing could prevent eventual disclosure.
* The Earth is a (female) sentient being, as are all planets.
* To graduate to an spacing species, we must embrace peace.
* The Bentwater incident was us from the distant future trying to warn us from the past about nukes.
* He holds regular meditation sessions accompanied by UFOs in spots like Joshua Tree, Shasta, National Shores etc, and that there was lots of video to back this up, (yet did not show any).

His ideology was very gnostic, that we are all one living mind experiencing itself via a myriad of realities.

He made several references to needing financial assistance, and pushed his book somewhat. There was lots of namedropping and self-aggrandizing, but the message was nice & kiddie-safe.

I suggest anyone who wants to really know where the disclosure project is at & in who's hands it rests, just watch the vid before passing comment.

BJ ∞ Truth Seeker. Can you make a new thread with this video.

This deserves it's own thread. If you won't post it i'll do it
Thank you so much for getting this video too.

Thanks for sharing this. This will def. come support what I've been trying to explain on these forums.

Great stuff!

Originally posted by Shar_Chi



His claims included:
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* A major G7 nation would soon be putting its full weight behind disclosure, and that nothing could prevent eventual disclosure.

It would be a good discussion as to which country he is talking about that might put their full weight for disclosure.

I think it will be Germany since they are currently in charge of G8 right now and have a lot of power thru the EU.

France would be my second guess because of the book they have been writing.

I really respect Dr Greer immensely as you have seen me defend him ruthlessly on this site, but people coming from the future!?

Excuse me while I wrap my mind around that!

First of all, thanks for the video post. It's nice to see some recent footage about the progression of the disclosure project.

Mr. Greer mentions that he and his group are going to act as liasons for an E.T. landing and contact. He says this is 'iminent', and backed by an entire countries armed forces.

This is a tremendous claim.

If Greers idea of 'iminent' is in alignment with what I believe to be iminent, then it seems we'll see if Greer is credible here relatively soon.

It will be interesting to hear more about this from other sources, or a detailed elaboration from Greer. I'm still undecided on this fellow.

BJ - TS,

Thank you very much for posting this vid.

Although I am skeptical about Greer's motivations these days - full transparency like this is the only way to keep uneccessary rumors and unproductive arguments from occurring.

Members like yourself keep ATS an outstanding and open minded community.

Originally posted by c3hamby

Originally posted by Shar_Chi
His claims included:
* A major G7 nation would soon be putting its full weight behind disclosure, and that nothing could prevent eventual disclosure.

It would be a good discussion as to which country he is talking about that might put their full weight for disclosure.

I think it will be Germany ... France would be my second guess

I'd guess Canada, due to Paul HellYer having such a cool name (+ ex minister defense now working for ufo lobby)

Originally posted by c3hamby

Originally posted by Shar_Chi



His claims included:
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* A major G7 nation would soon be putting its full weight behind disclosure, and that nothing could prevent eventual disclosure.

It would be a good discussion as to which country he is talking about that might put their full weight for disclosure.

I think it will be Germany since they are currently in charge of G8 right now and have a lot of power thru the EU.

France would be my second guess because of the book they have been writing.

I really respect Dr Greer immensely as you have seen me defend him ruthlessly on this site, but people coming from the future!?

Excuse me while I wrap my mind around that!

C3hamby, France came to mind right away too.
They are supposed to bring a Database of UFO cases up soon too.
I don't see my country doing anything, since we are so economically affected and pressured by the US.

If you think of any country that doesn't respond as much to pressure from the US, you get your answer.

Yeah, I don't think Canada is as powerful as Germany, if it's just about power I'd put my money on Germany. I'm not sure about France's power, but the documentary certainly puts them in the running.

Thanks for the link Truthseeker.

The G8-country... Don't expect Germany to come out on this; their government is another US puppet democracy since Schröder got kicked out in the last (fraudulent) elections.

France... not with incoming Homo Atlanticus and bigtime freemason Sarkozy on its throne.

Russia maybe.

On the other hand, while I take the Disclosure Project as pure truth, I think Steven Greer sometimes embellishes his message with a positive undertone (cfr. working over-unity machine). I guess he mentions full disclosure to keep the hope alive, and I understand that. In reality, though, I don't see a major nation going full disclosure, like in a major press conference.

The bad guys, on the other hand, will exert their false flag plans sooner or later. They haven't worked like crazy for the past 50 years over nothing.