Steven Greer at LA Conscious Life Expo, page 7
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reply posted on 19-1-2007 @ 07:20 AM by greerISaFraud
Originally posted by tock
I never accused you, but the other poster.

You are coming with valid points that can be discussed. I couldn't say the same from the user called GreerIsAFraud which obviously created that secondary account cause he's too chicken to post on him main account. Account made solely to attack Dr Greer without any foundations. To me, that's worthless bashing.



Wait. How can you say that I haven't come up with a valid point? I believe I have the most valid point of anyone in this whole thread.

Dr. Greer claims he can levitate. 100% of the scientific community on the planet Earth thinks that this is an impossibility. The vast majority of humans on the planet Earth think this is an impossibility. No one has ever proven that they can levitate in the history of human kind. Don't you think it totally destroys his credibility if he makes such grandoise claims that are easy to prove yet simply chooses not to prove it? What if his entire book were the exact same, but instead everytime he said the word "levitate" you replaced it with "sprouted wings out of my back and flew"..... you would still be ok with that? I just don't get how you Greer fanboys can just overlook this whole levitation thing without even raising an eyebrow.

Isn't that a valid point? A grown man, a doctor of medicine claiming he can break the laws of nature and defy gravity with just his mind..... but he won't prove it? It just makes a once respected man look like yet another fraud in the UFO community. How do you think his eyewitnesses feel about that? They put their neck out to reveal the truth and then the man they put their trust in turns into a goddamn hand holding hippy who claims he can levitate. How do you think all of his political contacts feel about having their name used as a credible source in the same book? Do you think they will EVER want anything to do with Greer again? If you do, you are rather naive. Greer was doing a great thing by compiling his list of credible witnesses, and making high ranking government and political contacts, and then with this book he took a big hot steamy dump on all of them.

Disclosure project is done. There is no recovering from this book as Greer has lost every ounce of credibility he had. There will never be congressional hearings. No one is backing your boy Greer; A man that many thought to be a serious researcher has exposed himself to be just another in a long line of UFO kooks.


As far as calling me a coward for my username..... I don't get it. I have no secondary account on these forums and I signed up for the sole purpose of posting in this thread. How is my username violating any terms? I also think that crop circles are man made so if my username were CropCirlcesRfake, would that be inflammatory as well? You mean to tell me that I can start a thread calling Greer a fraud until I am blue in the face, but I can't claim he is a fraud in my username? I am sorry if your extreme mancrush for Greer makes my name so offensive to you, but you are just going to have to deal with it.


reply posted on 20-1-2007 @ 09:25 PM by tock
I'll tell you what I think about all this.

You are either ready for it, or you are not. I bought the last 2 books, and I literally devoured them. It was amazing stories, life changing reading.

There is some amazing events that happened, and he decided to share with the public, even the most incredible stories. And I thank him for that. That brings up to the pace and we get to understand there is more than what our government wants us to know. They want to keep us like sheep's so we can be easier handled. Enlightened people that see the light, are not easy to control.

He knew that it would hurt his image, but he's a man true to himself and to the public. He said what happened, no detour...

After reading the 2 books and doing some research on him, I registered for the September 2006 CSETI Training. I had a blast over there, it was just fantastic. People were nice. The CSETI people are awesome. We got to know a lot of what's going on behind the scene and that was sometimes scary, sometimes breath taking. In 35 years, this was the best spent holidays I ever took away from Canada. I made friend with someone from Ireland, Denmark, British Columbia, Minnesota, St-Bruno and all over the world.

But again, the quality of experience has a lot to do with your attitude. I can't say everybody will like it. Some of the people that came, didn't even read the training material in the binder and none of the books, so they kind of missed why CSETI is doing all this.

In other words, if your life is on a stall at the moment, and you want to see a different perspective, I would highly recommend a week with that amazing man and his team. You can also see him at the LA Conscious life expo first.

My 2 cents.


reply posted on 21-1-2007 @ 11:27 AM by greerISaFraud
Originally posted by Togetic

I am curious what you purchased and what you thought of it. I haven't read any of his books, but I have heard a number of his interviews. I can imagine that some of it is very bizarre.


Well, the only book that I am upset about is his latest book, "Hidden Truth, Forbidden Knowledge" His previous books were compilations of credible eye-witness testimony. They were credible because they were believable accounts by professionals. The whole purpose of his earlier books was credibility. That is obvious because he could have interviewed a whole slew of people with much more shocking stories *ala Sleeper*, but he chose to interview military professionals. He was purposely going for credibility, not shock value or fantastical stories, and he did this in a professional/documented manner.

Then came his major push for congressional hearings in 2001. This is what his life's work was leading up to and was the best chance that anyone on the planet has ever had for full disclosure. He gave it his best and the congressional hearings never occured. The attacks on the WTC happened shortly after his conference and basically whatever interest he sparked in the house/congress was shuffled to the bottom of the deck. Greer even goes as far as suggesting that 911 was a direct result of the Disclosure Project (purpotrated by the US government).

My theory as to what happened next:
Greer had to be distraught. All the hard work that he and others had done, all the eye witnesses that had gone out on a limb, all the military and political contacts he had made.......all went for naught. I believe he then went off the deep end.

The book he wrote after that, "Hidden Truth, Forbidden Knowledge" was like a total 180deg turn from what he was doing before. He stopped going about his work in a scientific manner and started telling fantastical stories. He talked of his contacts in government/politics/and eye-witness accounts, but also of his personal theories. He spoke of a lot of new-age spirituality. He spoke of his personal connections to the aliens, and how he contacts them through meditation. He claims he can summon aliens to appear at will. He speaks of being able to levitate. He speaks of the attacks on his life by black ops which included them giving him, his dog, and his best friend cancer, and also talks of having out of body experiences that allowed him to travel to his attackers and stop them. He has yet to prove any of these extrordinary claims.

Basically he hung everyone out to dry. Everyone that risked their professional credibility whether it be military or political.... he took all the faith they put in him and he poo'd all over it.

All for what? What did he accomplish by printing this book, "Hidden Truth, Forbidden Knowledge" ? Even if (and I say this with the highest degree of scepticism), even if everything in that book is 100% fact.... what are you doing for your cause by printing this without a freaking kernal of proof????
He has done nothing but alienate (no pun intended) everyone that put their trust in him, and that is why I believe the Disclosure Project is toast. No way can it recover from that. Their website is now dead basically, and probably will never be updated again. It is a place to advertise his new book and a graveyard for the credible eye-witness testimony.

He seems to focus on CSETI now, and makes his living off giving believers a tour to see lights in the sky. Steven Greer is currently nothing more than a Prophet Yahweh and has devolved into a man showing suckers some distant objects in the sky at the location of his choosing.

Just as someone stated earlier in this thread........Dr. Greer and the Disclore Project is symonymous with wasted opportunity.

[edit on 21-1-2007 by greerISaFraud]



reply posted on 16-2-2007 @ 02:24 PM by classified material
www.ufocongress.com...

Steven Greer will be one of the speakers. For those of you who can make it to this event in Nevada...


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