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reply posted on 17-3-2007 @ 11:19 PM by millerman
I'm jumping in kind of late in the game here, but I just finished reading this entire thread and I thought I'd throw in my .02....

The question was raised, "Why isn't Greer's proof all over the major media, why won't he come forward and release all his proof?"

I feel I should point out, sometime last year there was a special on ABC, hosted by Peter Jennings, and according to Greer he gave them EVERYTHING, all his pictures and footage, documents, everything he had.... and what ended up showing on ABC was a "dog and pony" show, a carnival act....

They used NONE of the footage he had given them, and instead they had all these seemingly credible scientists and authority figures going "ah, yep, UFOs are still a big mystery....."

Which reinforces the point I've been making in the other Greer thread.... the mainstream media is still tightly controlled and sanitized by the real powers-that-be in the government, and they simply WILL NOT allow the proof to come out in the media....

Also, to those demanding proof.... what level of footage would you consider satisfactory? I mean he could show a video of a craft touching down, and opening up, and obvious extraterrestrial beings walking out, ala 'Close Encounters of the Third Kind'.... and I'm sure everybody would be screaming "oh come on, that's SO 'Close Encounters of the Third Kind', he obviously got together with some film studio and used special effects and CGI to produce that....."

I mean we have reached the point where we can produce FAKE videos that are far more realistic than anything Greer could produce at a real live contact event! How do we tell what's real and what's produced any more?

Also, I'm surprised no one ever seems to ask this question: what if the ETs have GOOD REASONS for not touching down and getting out of their craft and walking around?

What if they are prohibited from doing so by the 'Galactic Federation' or whatever? What if they have something similar to the Prime Directive from Star Trek, that prohibits them from interacting with humans on that level? Maybe they are only allowed to fly around in the sky and make their presence known, but not directly interfere with our world....

What if they have legitimate safety concerns? What if they have been SHOT AT and killed before, as some of the DP witnesses claim? Maybe they're afraid someone will pull out a gun and start shooting if they get out of their crafts?

What if they can't breathe our atmosphere?

What if their home planet is a very different size than ours and we have either too much or too little force of gravity for them to get out and walk around?

Just some food for thought....

Also, "GreerIsAFraud" raised the issue of him claiming to be able to levitate.

I don't have my copy of the book handy, but from what I remember, he never claimed to be able to levitate AT WILL. Only that once, in the middle of one especially mystical experience, he started to levitate off the ground a couple feet, and as soon as his critical mind kicked in and he thought "what the hell, I'm levitating?!", he dropped right back down. And I don't remember anything about him levitating two cars or whatever. Do you have a page number for that?

As for the claim that black ops people gave him cancer.... the actual claim is that himself, his assistant Shari Adamiak, a US congressman they were working closely with at the time, AND his pet dog, ALL got the exact same kind of cancer AT THE SAME TIME. Too big of a coincidence, to be a coincidence. The claim is that a specific type of directed energy weapon which can affect people at the cellular level was used to do this....



reply posted on 18-3-2007 @ 09:59 AM by millerman
Originally posted by Thodeph

No wonder representatives aren't too eager in exposing this. That congressman should be Steve Schiff. There's a real epidemic of cancers among ufo whistleblowers.
www.ufoarea.com...

[edit on 18-3-2007 by Thodeph]


Thanks for that Thodeph!

I believe that there are many in the US Congress and government that want to do something about the UFO cover-up, but they are terrified of the rogue group that has the black technologies, for exactly this sort of reason.....



reply posted on 18-3-2007 @ 11:41 AM by kroms33
Originally posted by millerman
Originally posted by kroms33

Amen Brother!

There are TONS of FREE media resources to leak the information out to the public...


Sure, it's all over the Internet already, and alternative radio and news publications.....

But there's always going to be that segment of people who won't believe anything until it has that "official" stamp of government approval on it, like showing it on CNN or NBC or whatever.....


Agreed, that is why we have to put our beliefs aside and push the world into disclosure. While we may disagree on some of the issues, I think that it is time for all UFO organizations to unite and shove this right into the publics face. We have the means to do it - everyone interested in this subject has the means to 'fight the power'.

There needs to be a massive internet campaign to spark media interest (I am currently working on a project to push this forward). There are ways to circumvent getting the 'official' stamp - various news agencies in the USA have reported on UFOs - such as the Phoenix lights, Mexican Air Force UFOs, and the O'Hare UFO have garnered huge media attention (internationally).
If there was a massive push by everyone interested (over 75% of Americans) then it would generate a 'snowball' effect that the government could not stop.
I don't think that the major news networks are the 'end all be all' to get this out into the publics eye though.

i.e. get the most common internet search from being porn to being UFOs...

[edit on 3/18/2007 by kroms33]


reply posted on 18-3-2007 @ 02:10 PM by millerman
Originally posted by kroms33

Agreed, that is why we have to put our beliefs aside and push the world into disclosure. While we may disagree on some of the issues, I think that it is time for all UFO organizations to unite and shove this right into the publics face. We have the means to do it - everyone interested in this subject has the means to 'fight the power'.

There needs to be a massive internet campaign to spark media interest (I am currently working on a project to push this forward). There are ways to circumvent getting the 'official' stamp - various news agencies in the USA have reported on UFOs - such as the Phoenix lights, Mexican Air Force UFOs, and the O'Hare UFO have garnered huge media attention (internationally).


Well, I agree about generating massive public interest, but I think that for the time being, we need to shift the focus away from UFOs/ETs, and onto the issue of the suppression of technology. The over-unity energy technologies like zero-point energy and cold fusion really are the "holy grail" that can finally take down the shadow government and usher in this whole new age of peace and prosperity, a legitimate Space Age.

There are already public organizations working to this end, like SEAS and the New Energy Movement, so now it's just a matter of generating as much public support for them as we possibly can - and not just support but FUNDING. As I've said in other threads, I bet that if SEAS had had access to say a billion dollars, or even a few million, they could have produced working prototypes by now and they could get these technologies into mass production....



reply posted on 18-3-2007 @ 09:17 PM by kroms33
Originally posted by millerman

Well you're never going to see it on a major news network.... and one of the reasons is, suppose a craft touches down and some ETs come out - and they look EXACTLY like us but with say bigger ears, like Spock.... can you imagine the reaction from the public??



My thing is: when the O'Hare UFO happened in Chicago (and I live in Chicago), it was all over the news - damned near the head story. Just 2 weeks ago a couple networks did a story about the UFO's seen around Chicago - and I actually e-mailed a news anchor and got a response. Also - you have to remember that the Phoenix lights and the Mexican Air Force UFOs where international news - and coverage ranged from Cable TV networks right down to standard broadcast TV news.... so for you to say they would never air something like that... I don't think you have been watching the news. They are commenting more and more on UFOs not as fiction - but reality. Heck - they even put that Prophet Yahweh guy on - and Greer isn't as half as crazed as that guy.

I think I can firmly say that we, as a people are getting tired of excuse after excuse when it comes to people making claims upon claims that they have footage and are in contact with aliens.
"Put up or shut up," is what many of us are thinking and saying.
Or is it his next big venture to make $$$ off of the UFO subject?
I don't want to sound disrespectful - or even try to bate an argument - but the points I bring up are valid are they not?
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