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Originally posted by cheeser
During the interview with Richard Carrier the hypothetical situation was proposed that if your dead and you find yourself in heaven, what would happen if your wife and children went to hell instead of heaven? let alone being separated from your family
19"There was a rich man who was dressed in purple and fine linen and lived in luxury every day. 20At his gate was laid a beggar named Lazarus, covered with sores 21and longing to eat what fell from the rich man's table. Even the dogs came and licked his sores.
22"The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham's side. The rich man also died and was buried. 23In hell,[c] where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. 24So he called to him, 'Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.'
25"But Abraham replied, 'Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony. 26And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been fixed, so that those who want to go from here to you cannot, nor can anyone cross over from there to us.'
27"He answered, 'Then I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my father's house, 28for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.'
29"Abraham replied, 'They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to them.'
30" 'No, father Abraham,' he said, 'but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.'
31"He said to him, 'If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.' "
or just having to .............*SNIP*................. each and every day.
Originally posted by cheeser
if your dead and you find yourself in heaven, what would happen if your wife and children went to hell instead of heaven? let alone being separated from your family, KNOWING that millions and millions, even billions of people are suffering terrible torments in hell, whether being from the popularly depicted real physical torment, or a physiological torment being separated from gods love.. or just having to suck Satans big greasy toenail each and every day. And what can you do about it in heaven? nothing! Regardless of what it is, most Christian denominations will agree that hell is a place of torment.. You would never be able to see some of your loved ones again, and be depressed with the harsh relativity that they are in so much discomfort. In a sense.. wouldn't that be a kind of hell, or at its least.. it wouldn't be a place of "complete bliss", as what it is commonly described as. (i also acknowledge that some Christians believe that individuals are only in hell for 7 years? or till the "end of time" or whatever, but many believe its eternity.)