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Originally posted by goose
I have a sense of humor but in the area of the country where I am from when someone puts the word duh at the end of the sentence they are not being funny their being rude which is what I thought you were trying to be thats why you got the response back that you did. As for the thing about Clinton giving an order for the military to receive unapproved FDA Drugs I was not happy about that either since I voted for him. What branch of the service are you in? My husband is a former marine.
Originally posted by goose
www.archives.gov... notice the word gov. it is not a hoax, this order is listed at NARA scroll halfway down the page. I have not read it all but it does say that it is with experimental drugs also they have to have your permission.
Originally posted by Affirmative Reaction
I am in the Air force, and have been for 19+ years....
Originally posted by Affirmative Reaction
Originally posted by goose
I will turn off my speakers whenever I I feel like it, I don't recall asking for your help on this matter, DUH Go to the first website I listed and scroll down halfway you should see where an executive order was given by then President Clinton for the military personnel to be injected with experimental drugs not approved by the FDA, it is complete with a link, you can look it up I'm sure there is plenty of dcumentation on that one.
The speaker comment was a joke, as I assumed the music comment was from you. Now I see that you have no sense of humor, so I will not joke with you again.
Again I say, this is a HOAX! I was IN the military for the ENTIRE LENGTH of Billary Clinton's administration, (still am, for that matter)and was NEVER injected with ANYTHING that I didnt' have FULL KNOWLEDGE of...You and your site are wrong...period.
Go get a sense of humor....
Originally posted by THENEO
Originally posted by Affirmative Reaction
I am in the Air force, and have been for 19+ years....
so tell us what you do in the air force since you are so knowledgeagle at atmospheric science and several other disciplines according to you and you comments?
Originally posted by Affirmative Reaction
Ahhh...there it is...
I see what you are talking about, but it goes agains the original claim about "without knowledge", and "can't sue". It specifically states that we must be given informed consent, and says NOTHING about suing the government.....
Originally posted by Dramon
AR they tell you that they are shooting you up with something and you're telling me that before they do, you break out your chemical analysis kit and make sure that it's exactly what they stated - I don't think so, you have NO clue what they could be injecting you with. In FACT the govt. has been getting into trouble recently because they were giving military personnel, Marines mostly, injections without truthfully informing them of what it was they were being injected with.
BTW you do know about the syphilis tests that were illegally conducted on African Americans don't you? Gee, the govt. just recently admitted and apologized for that one.
Also, what about the above ground nuke testing - they knew that there would be fallout, but they conducted the tests anyway to study drift patterns and more importantly see how the fallout affected people in various ranges away from the detonation site - U.S. citizens, who had no idea.
Hell, what about the Area 51 workers who were basically forced to work around hazardous materials and ended up having to sue the govt. because the govt. refused to acknowledge it - then Clinton makes it illegal for them to sue again - citing national defense.
I would have thought anyone posting here wouldn't put such blind faith in our government...but I guess not, which is why they can continue to do these things.
Originally posted by goose
Originally posted by Affirmative Reaction
Ahhh...there it is...
I see what you are talking about, but it goes against the original claim about "without knowledge", and "can't sue". It specifically states that we must be given informed consent, and says NOTHING about suing the government.....
When you first signed the contract to be a member of the military it has always been my impression that you make yourself exempt from sueing the government. My husband told me that you can't sue the government for anything if you are military or ex-military for something that happened while you were in the military. So it really doesn't matter whether they get your informed consent or not besides all they have to do is lose your military records or just medical records and you have no proof anyway. Remember I told you they had shot my husband full of crap while he was in the military (he was in during the years that they routinely used the miitary as guinea pigs, gov. acknowledged this, it was also on the news, this is a documented fact) the day we left the military and went to pick up our medical records they were all missing could not be found, even though they were there the day before, we asked for them the day before and was told they could not be released until the next day,we went back and they were gone, recently the gov. got in touch with us over incident they wanted to know about (medical stuff) they had our medical records. Funny how those records can be lost and found at their convenience.
Originally posted by goose
Ma'am, I don't mean to correct you, but you are incorrect. When you sign on the dotted line to accept your commission/enlist in the Armed Forces, you do NOT give up your rights as a citizen of this country. You CAN sue the government for negligence, and something of the nature being claimed here would fall under that description. What you CAN'T sue the government for is wounds received in combat, as they are, unfortunately, a hazard of the job, or death while in service to country. However, every service member has Serviceman's Group Life Insurance (SGLI) that pays to the beneficiary in the event of the serviceman�s death. It was $100,000 when I joined, and is now $250,000.
I have literally hundreds of friends who have gotten out or retired from the military, and not one of them has complained that their records were totally lost. Could this not be simply a coincidence rather than some sinister plot to keep your records secret? Why would your family's records be hidden as well? Were they doing experiments on you as well?
When did the Government admit that they used your husband as a guinea pig? When was he on active duty? A link to the admission of guilt by the government to doing this at this time please????
Originally posted by goose
The last one does address the question about the problem at Camp Lejeune my children and I being exposed to the cleaning fluid, so please take a look at it, its a government website. You asked the question did I think my children and I were guinea pigs too and thats why they could not find our records, well you tell me, the military was responsible for checking those wells and for twenty years they were negligent in doing so, for twenty years they did not check a whole base's water supply, you know yourself that they could not be that negligent IMO they were checking and well aware of what were in those wells. You want to find out what a certain chemical will do to an unborn fetus well make sure the mother drinks it, you want to find out what it will do to a child well give it to the child, of course they won't drink the water if they know, just don't tell them, just say OOPs we forgot to check the wells how silly of us and oh btw has any of your children developed cancer yet, as for proving that the military was used as guinea pigs all the way up until 1974 perhaps 1975 I can't recall the year it was stopped, I think Oct. 1974 but I'm not sure, it was in the documentary and I do recall seeing it, I recall more because I knew it affected my husband. Why would I lie about such a thing, it is difficult to find anything on the web about it due to the fact that it is not well known history and most news services probably did not even have a website when it was first reported and the only people interested in it anymore are the one affeccted by it. but I will continue searching for proof of it and also the bill that was recently knocked down a few years back that clearly was giving the government the right to experiment on us all civilian and military without our knowledge and if we found out we could not sue it was in the bill, that clearly is an indication this type of thing is going on, at least to me anyway I think they would have to put up a large neon flaming sign that read "HUMAN EXPERIMENTATION DONE HERE WITHOUT ANYONES CONSENT- BY THE GOVERNMENT!" and show live coverage on CNN for you to believe it!
Do you realize the temperature, lack of oxygen, and UV at "chemtrail altitude" will kill viruses rather easily?
Originally posted by DontSpyOnMe John Stadmiller of the Genesis Radio Network reported on the Saturday, Dec. 6 edition of "Real Talk Radio" that influenza strains have been found in chemtrails sprayed over the Tampa Bay area.
Originally posted by SkepticOverlord
Originally posted by DontSpyOnMe
John Stadmiller of the Genesis Radio Network reported on the Saturday, Dec. 6 edition of "Real Talk Radio" that influenza strains have been found in chemtrails sprayed over the Tampa Bay area.
Do you realize the temperature, lack of oxygen, and UV at "chemtrail altitude" will kill viruses rather easily?
Originally posted by Affirmative Reaction
Originally posted by goose
The last one does address the question about the problem at Camp Lejeune my children and I being exposed to the cleaning fluid, so please take a look at it, its a government website. You asked the question did I think my children and I were guinea pigs too and thats why they could not find our records, well you tell me, the military was responsible for checking those wells and for twenty years they were negligent in doing so, for twenty years they did not check a whole base's water supply, you know yourself that they could not be that negligent IMO they were checking and well aware of what were in those wells. You want to find out what a certain chemical will do to an unborn fetus well make sure the mother drinks it, you want to find out what it will do to a child well give it to the child, of course they won't drink the water if they know, just don't tell them, just say OOPs we forgot to check the wells how silly of us and oh btw has any of your children developed cancer yet, as for proving that the military was used as guinea pigs all the way up until 1974 perhaps 1975 I can't recall the year it was stopped, I think Oct. 1974 but I'm not sure, it was in the documentary and I do recall seeing it, I recall more because I knew it affected my husband. Why would I lie about such a thing, it is difficult to find anything on the web about it due to the fact that it is not well known history and most news services probably did not even have a website when it was first reported and the only people interested in it anymore are the one affeccted by it. but I will continue searching for proof of it and also the bill that was recently knocked down a few years back that clearly was giving the government the right to experiment on us all civilian and military without our knowledge and if we found out we could not sue it was in the bill, that clearly is an indication this type of thing is going on, at least to me anyway I think they would have to put up a large neon flaming sign that read "HUMAN EXPERIMENTATION DONE HERE WITHOUT ANYONES CONSENT- BY THE GOVERNMENT!" and show live coverage on CNN for you to believe it!
If youhonestly believe the government was doing experiments on youand your family, this is not the place you should be. If it were my family, I'd be camping out on my congressman's doorstep....