Everyone should read

2012: The Return of Quetzalcoatl by Daniel Pinchbeck

I saw him on the Colbert Report
I got this book for christmas and have read almost all of it

It has tons of info about syncronicities and kind of links together crop circles, the calendar, geometry, bible, psychedelic drugs... all the mysterious things that are linked to this. Plus if you don't like david icke type stuff then you will like this because it is pretty sane in that aspect. The author doesn't go into crazy theories but basically has a main idea that we are in for a big psychic/spiritual change

brilliant!

Keep em comming.

One of the hardest things about researching something is not knowing the names of people presenting the information, I've never heard of this guy so cheers for that.

Im gonna have a look through my 300gigs worth of documentaries and post some sources tomorrow (9th).

in the mean time

night night

Very nice so far gang, this gives a guy a whole bunch of info to look into...which was what the post was intended for......thanks so much and yeah, let's keep em coming!!!

Peace, Mondo

This is my all time favorite subject

I can't believe nobody has mentioned terence mckenna yet.

If you haven't heard of him then you need to kick yourself in the crotch and look him up cuz he is one of the smartest men... too bad he died in 2000

Anyways there is a ton of videos and recordings of his speeches. He talks about psychedelics, time, technology, all that good stuff

He also made an equation that shows our entire timewave through history and the line on the graph goes to zero on 12-21-12. He made this equation using the ancient chinese I Ching. I can't explain it a tenth as good as he does. He seemed to have life all figured out...

Well anyways im sure most of you have heard of him if your into this topic but if you haven't then he should be number 1 on your list to check out.

If you want me to post videos or links to radio interviews etc I can find some but just thought id let you do the research

Originally posted by Mondogiwa

Originally posted by Order Out Of Chaos
Maybe you can enlighten us on your thoughts about 2012, would be interesting to shoot holes in, as you have done with David Icke.

I really have no enlightenin thoughts yet, just curious.
You see, I knew I would get slammed over the David Icke thing...please just read the thread and contribute if you want to pertaining to the observed wishes of the author concerning David Icke.
If you do not agree and do not appreciate my opinion of David Icke, then do not respond..it really is that simple! I really want to know what others think about this supposed contact date but I want to filter out David Icke thoughts, that's all.
So, maybe we can now get back on topic and havin a sharing of info hereT

Thanks ahead of time, Mondo

Hi,
You allmost seem hostile to David though,which is why i responded.
If he's mentioned again that'll be cool too, as we live in a world of free speech, for this reason, you have no cause to 'filter out' David Icke, at all.
At least David had the guts to tell the whole world his views, with risk of ridicule..... and you don't even have any views on the subject yourself... on a forum.....
What i'm trying to say, my friend is, if i wan't to mention his darn name i will..... now on with your power-trip.... their are sheep to be followed.

Originally posted by Order Out Of Chaos

Originally posted by Mondogiwa

Originally posted by Order Out Of Chaos

What i'm trying to say, my friend is, if i wan't to mention his darn name i will..... now on with your power-trip.... their are sheep to be followed.

You know, that's just fine, you are absolutely right about the free speech, and all i said was that I wish that this thread would not contain info from David Icke. I have been involved with threads before that just kept running with David Icke says this and David Icke says that....but no thoughts from individuals themselves...just regurgitated David Icke info, which you are right...I do not believe anything from him(just my opinion).
However, there is no power trip involved or intended. In fact, I'd bet that you could check around on the sire here and get plenty of people who would say that I would never try to be authoritative or insulting to anybody, yourself included!!
I have an idea and so i started a thread, and in the efffort to keep the thread going in the direction I intended, I stated what i stated and I stand by it. Again, just a personal preference.

Here's an example; You take a class in college and the topic is on whatever you like, but then somebody starts saying whatever they want about whatever. The professor simply adds that he/she would like the topic to remain on task and gives a few boundaries in order to keep on track.

Sorta trying to do the same here....sorry for the analogy, but just trying to explain better.
If you do feel that you want to talk about David Icke, I just asl you politely, very politely in fact, to refrain from this forum. I welcome you and your thoughts sir, just please be respectful as well. By the way, I again apologize to you and do not mean to sound hostile.

Respectfully and with Peace, Mondo

Okay, we are at peace.
You have to give the guy some credit though, i mean, how many people in the world would be willing to say openly that the Queen of England is a shape-shifting Lizard?
Maybe in 2012 all the lizards will make themselves seen.sheesh, this world is a scary place.

Peace it is my friend of course, but I at a loss of words for the Queen of England shape shifting thing....I uhhhh, yeah...enough said, Peace, Mondo

i'm a bit interested in the buddhism one and the "outside" help thing.

I've heard something kind of familiar to this, but it was about America.

it said something about that America would have to survive/defend against a battle on its air,land and waters against a united eurasian front and will be rescued by "Divine" help?

something like that..i think i read that from the boy boriska or something from russia

the mayan's believed that 2012 will be a "new age" a "golden age" technologically and spiritually/phsyically.


i personally believe that dec 21 2012 will be the day earth becomes important to our galaxy...i also believe that we are going to pass through the photon belt and what some ppl call "ether" or "dark energy" which will condense time. And the phsical / spiritual awareness/senses will be Enlightened greatly

at that time we are also suppose to be alligned with the center of the galaxy along with 2 other galaxies which theoratically makes a cross (this is what i heard from an external sourse)

at that point i think its very logical for the annunaki or w/e they're called to come back to earth and see how we have progressed and share technology with us ...and also prevent our own destruction from ourselves.

although if i were from a diff planet ......why the hell would i even think of coming here...its absurd....who in their right mind would want to come to this warring/power hungry planet ...is beyond me ....but i do know that the time of man is in for a BIG HUGE change in 2012 i would bet my life on it


well this is my first post here on ATS although ive been coming here alot just reading peoples posts and threads


Regards ~ Mayan2012

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but i've also been wondering...

what happens in 2012 is just like another y2k?

what happens from there on?

sigh of relief, and then continue waiting for 'the day' you die, or the world does with you.

Originally posted by runetang
sigh of relief, and then continue waiting for 'the day' you die, or the world does with you.

how about a sigh of disappointment?

Hey all...

I've just woke up (9.30 here), up gonna look through my stuff and post some EXELLENT vids that you all MUST download later.

But for now, download "Paul Laviolette's, Earth Under Fire".

In that the talk about how the arrow of Sagittarious and the tail of Scorpio pointed to galaxtic centre, marking its importence. And how WE didnt find it until 1933 and the fact that the ancients marked it to within 300th of an inch more acurately than we did!!

It talks mainly about the Hopi Indians and the legend of the blue star, which is spossed to be Galactic Center,the massive balck whole at the center is sopposed to get a little angry and kick out some stuff, shower our planet with dust particles.

Some exellent proof brought foward of this having already happened in the past by checking core ice samples.

Oh yeah and as a side note, about a year ago, the Keck Observatory discovered the balck hole at the center,......AND!!!! about 6 months ago the found out that its started FEEDING again......BAAAA BOOOOOM!!!! could be interesting.

Another one to try and download is "THE GREAT YEAR". It talks about the precessionary cycle of 25750 years and how the ancients worked this out. They try to work out why the earth wobbles like this...GUESS WHAT THEY FOUND!!
They found that it is likely,MORE than likely, that we are actually a BINARARY system and we have a companion star, a red dwarf that causes the entire solar system to wobble.
RED STAR,????? dont the SUMERIANS have images of the planets in the solar system, all with the correct colours and discriptions...AND a big red one at the end they THEY COUNT FROM (we count from the sun, they counted from the red one). they also said we came from there,....RED STAR, SUMERIANS, ANUNNAKI!!????? who knows, damn strange though dontcha think

I remember before 2000 when doomsayers said the planet would leave it's orbit or that a gigantic meteor would strike the planet.

Now history repeats with 2012 and the alien landing

Yeah, it's the end of a mayan calender cycle , and? that's only a man made calender and part of their mythology.

Darkside.....

Yes, that is the logical conclusion a person would come to. However, its when you actually look more into it, when you really do some reading, you realise that

1)the ancients knew ALOT more than we are told they did

2)cataclysm HAS happened on this planet, for god sake, the POLE has flipped 26 times in earths KNOWN history...thats a FACT,a conclusive fact. so it is conceivable that it will happen again, and that it may have wiped out a civilaisation and that info may have been held in stories and belief structures

think of it this way.
The universe is a MIRACLE, if you tried explaining the existence to the universe,quantum mechanics and alike to a primitive being, they wouldn't believe you, or they have a hard time concieving the concept. So the universe and its infinite wonder exists, outside of your sceptical mind...it HAS to exist otherwise you dont.
So why is it so hard to concieve that maybe the earth has had a history that dosnt fit the human ego.
How can anyone be sure, that atlantis didnt exist. you only get your info from what you read,but not everything that is found or known gets written for YOU/US to read.

they found a drilled out piece of rock in a tomb in egypt, looked like a core sample, about 1.5 inches wide and 10 inches long. it had tiny "thread like" grooves, spiraling around the object.
when further analysis was done, it was found that this "cored sample" of rock was DRILLED OUT with something that could cut through the rock at 1 inch every 10 seconds....WE struggle to do that NOW!!

The second "Middle" temple at Abydos,Egypt, which was covered with 22,000yrs of annual nile sedament (pushing back the age of the temple, in some circles, to 22,000 years), has the flower of life....FLASH BURNT into the granite.....we cant even do that these days, the only way they could teorise it being done, is with a powerful laser, in the shape of the Flower....which is impossible,we cant suspend lasers yet. the closest we can do is create a standing wave using tech such as HAARP.

So, we can only see that which has filtered through are perceptions, but perceptions can be change, so what does That tell you about what you are seeing...hmmMMmm??