The Disclosure Project -- Sergeant Clifford Earl Stone of the United States Army, page 3
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reply posted on 8-3-2007 @ 01:25 AM by sweftl337
Originally posted by Lexion
Originally posted by sweftl337

before he was murdered (due to not paying income tax and a whole range of other items)


Wow. Just, wow.
Care to elaborate on these claims, with some proof ?
Not some web-site. Actual proof.
Since when is someone murdered for not paying taxes ?
What are the range of the "other items" ?

Waiting as usual,
Lex


Sorry to sound like I’m pooh-poohing here but hopefully you good folks will not mind since I’m digressing more so after the thread died down somewhat.

Lex,
I was hoping to take you down to the police station to prove how he (Cooper) was murdered (by the police) but then I had pondered the idea that this was a UFO forum and that correct me if I’m wrong, he was shot in his home? Once more, my apologize for not staying quite on the topic of debate but if it was not that Mr. William Cooper himself was such a big UFO guy – before his waking up, I may not have mentioned his death, or even bothered linking to the documents on Roswell.

Frankly, I accept in this notion of extra-terrestrials – no doubt at all but Art bell and his guest are starting to truly aggravate me – not all but some. Not bashing the entire form of entertainment but I fail to take to too seriously unless we see more people like Alex Jones, or stuff on health, or Edgar Cayce or whatever - but please enough of this UFOOLOGIST nonsense! Truly, it would be nice to put this ufoology-Jesuit crap to bed, so let's hear your opinions on that link I provided first.
I used think Greer was cool until he said it was ok to give Rothschild a break to become a nice guy. I mash him up with Mr. Jesuit Art-Bell after that. Even though Greer himself may be honest and perhaps even if he did mention in his book something about the Jesuits - I do not trust his Project. Much good info to please amateurs but I've been studying Anthroposophy long enough to know better. Lucis Trust says the spacemen are nice guys too. But it’s what they do not say and that which I know already that is misleading people. Too much drama, too much head-ace and quite frankly, not to sound rude, your heads are needed down here on planet earth – not up there.

For those things we face are much more inner-terrestrial than outer.


reply posted on 8-3-2007 @ 12:58 PM by kroms33
I for a fact know there are many things the government will not disclose to the public. There are many instances when people who are of military origin come forward and disclose information they want to get off their chests to either family members or friends. Sometimes, I do find it very hard to believe people that are making a buck off of UFOs/EBEs.
A friend of mine – a long time ago when I was involved more heavily in research told me a bunch of stuff – and to this day, I don’t know whether to believe him. He was in the Marine corps and was supposedly flown out to an undisclosed location (desert setting) on a C-130 transport with his platoon. They disembarked the aircraft and were told to stand guard over some type of ‘chambers’ (he thinks they were cryogenic chambers) housing what looked to be humans. They were told not to look at them, but to stand guard. These ‘chambers’ were then transported to an aircraft (he never described the type or model) and it took off. His platoon was out of 29 Palms.

Then there are instances, where people I know have told me about things about the Viet Nam war and the CIA’s involvement. I can’t get into detail – but lets just say, it was a ‘test’ war (according to them).

I think that if people ask their friends, and family who have been involved in military operations will find out – things aren’t as cut and dry as we would like to believe. There are some really strange things going on within the government.

The USA is the most technologically advanced civilization on this planet, they will never disclose how technologically advanced it is. Then again, perhaps everything these people were allowed to see was just a ploy for disinformation. Everything needs to be held into account as research progresses.

I think that if lets say millions of people decided to converge on Area 51 – the United States would be millions short of their citizenry. Yeah, questions would be asked – but then again, who would still be in control?

Just some thoughts.

Kroms33

[edit on 3/8/2007 by kroms33]


reply posted on 11-9-2007 @ 09:19 PM by ETDisclosure
reply to post by Schaden



There interesting point about Steven Greer, is that he doesn't get paid on the trainings.

CSETI pays his expenses, but nothing else. I was surprised to hear that.

He lives out of his investment when he was emergency Dr, I heard. So maybe people in this board doesn't give him credit for what he does. It's so easy to do nothing but complain and be comfortably sitting in front of the computer.

ETD


reply posted on 11-9-2007 @ 09:23 PM by ETDisclosure
reply to post by RiotComing



Exactly Riot, as soon as there is an association with a group, and that association goes to hell, then we tend to discredit the entire group. That is a serious mistake, and we have to stop doing that.

This behavior has been targeted, used and misused by the covert group, to their advantage.

When will people ever learn?
ETD


reply posted on 15-10-2007 @ 07:01 PM by frankpaladin
reply to post by RiotComing



Unlike many of you folks on this thread, I know Clifford Stone, in fact I have known him for many years, having first met him in Hanau, Germany before some of you were born. I've also met his family and been in his home for a meal or two. At the time he arrived, his MOS (military occupational specialty) was intel analyst, if memory serves. For some odd reason, though, an E5 intel analyst was assigned as the assistant unit mail clerk for Hanau Military Community, a post normally held by a PFC or SP4. I was then assigned to the 40th AG DET (Postal) and dealt with Cliff on a daily basis.

My impressions of him were that he was highly intelligent, a little bit of a square peg in a round hole, and absolutely fearless. He took exhaustive notes on just about everything and was always in possession of a large briefcase. I didn't know why a mail clerk needed a briefcase, but I figured that it was his business.

One evening I got a look inside the briefcase while Cliff was on CQ (Charge of Quarters) and saw pictures of UFO's. They looked authentic to me. Bear in mind that this was 1976 or 1977, I was a photography enthusiast and well able to detect photo manipulation even then, and also, we did not have Photoshop or the GIMP back then. Photo manipulation required some real skill and expertise, and even then it was detectable.

I should note, that while the images looked authentic to me in that they were actual objects, I cannot state for certain exactly what the objects depicted were. Cliff called some of them "control spheres". I must also note that this was thirty years ago and my memory is not what it once was.

Cliff also had many printed documents in that briefcase, though I never got a look at the documentation.

Now, I cannot speak to the authenticity of Cliff's claims. I did not personally see any aliens, UFO's or alien artifacts. I can confirm that Cliff had a strong interest in this area back then, and that his military assignment was not everything that it seemed to be.

I can speak of his character. He was a good man. Period.

I cannot speak to the issue of his present state of mind. His son was killed a while back, just before his book was published, and under suspicious circumstances. He might well be unbalanced these days, or he could be under coercion to appear crazy... he does have a wife and another child or two. I can confirm that he is not crazy, or at least he wasn't when I served with him. If he is being coerced, he could be lying.

He could also be telling the absolute truth as he sees it. Truth is often inconvenient, especially to those in power when the truth might serve to unbalance the power brokers of the world.

A final word. There is enough information in this post for those who have the knowledge to figure out who I am. My suggestion is that if you know, you should keep quiet. I am often armed, and always vigilant. Email me if you wish, but don't show up at my home uninvited. It wouldn't be a good idea. Unlike Cliff, I have nothing to lose.


reply posted on 15-10-2007 @ 08:01 PM by Smugallo
reply to post by schuyler



I agree, an awful way to end a damn interesting post! I'll be sure to have my trusty slingshot in my pocket

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