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The Disclosure Project -- Sergeant Clifford Earl Stone of the United States Army

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posted on Jan, 8 2007 @ 12:56 AM
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The Disclosure Project -- Sergeant Clifford Earl Stone of the United States Army

If you haven’t seen the disclosure project it is a must watch for any ufo researcher and I first heard about it on an illuminati website I stumbled across, which in its own right makes fascinating reading. On this website:
www.illuminati-news.com...
About one third down the page there a link you click “The Disclosure Project Video” and you can download the full 2 hour long video for free, plus it don’t take long if you’ve got broadband.

Well in-short it’s an America Nation Press Club Conference which was covered by a lot of the press in May 2001. Dr. Steven Geer a long-term ufo researcher whom gave up his job to fully investigate the truth about aliens, presents 21 credible witnesses to ufo events or cover ups (insiders). Most of these witnesses have been in the army, air force, or navy and I must admit once I saw this video, thereafter I became extremely convinced of the existence of aliens and there presence here.

One particular witness is Sergeant Clifford Earl Stone he only talks for about 4 mins but has some very interesting things to say regarding aliens such as being part of a retrieval team sent to a crash site, being one of the first on the scene and actually seeing alien life forms. In this short presentation he also states that to his knowledge the U.S knows of 57 types of EBE’s Extraterrestrial Biological Entities.

As you can imagine I had to do more research on this guy, recently I found this website: www.myufo.com...
This is a cool interview with him where he goes on into more detail. It also has after it a lot more information on ufo’s and aliens which is definitely worth a read too.

I was wandering weather anyone has anymore videos or interviews with him and what people think about his credibility?

This is my first post; just joined tonight did I do alright?
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posted on Jan, 8 2007 @ 12:59 AM
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Originally posted by Lucas_1984
This is my first post; just joined tonight did I do alright?
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Excellent. That is the kind of post that is really appreciated here.


I am going through the links right now.

I did a quick search here, and found this related thread...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

and some additional links in this thread...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

[edit on 1/8/2007 by Mechanic 32]

[edit on 1/8/2007 by Mechanic 32]



posted on Jan, 8 2007 @ 12:52 PM
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Old Cliff has been discussed and debunked several times on this site.

In the Disclosure book he talks about a monorail beneath the Pentagon with "entities" working with the government agents...in fact, a lot of what Cliff says makes for a good sc-fi film.

Someone said he now works at Roswell Museum. Surely visitors to this site can back up this claim, maybe they have met him? Nobody on here has had the desire to visit Roswell on a vacation and stop by at the museum?

I just emailed the museum to see if Clifford can be contacted there.

[edit on 8-1-2007 by MagicalRat]



posted on Jan, 8 2007 @ 01:01 PM
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MagicalRat: when you claim someone has been debunked (especialy when you say several times) please provide links to where this took place.

So people can review whatever information there is about him being debunked.

People claim everything is debunked or a hoax these days without the least shred of evidence to the fact.

If you (and everyone else for that matter) want UFO's, paranormal events and conspiracy theories to be proven, then also prove debunk, hoax and disinformation claims.



posted on Jan, 8 2007 @ 01:28 PM
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I do not trust Clifford Stone.

I can't cite specifics right now, but his information seems to be very disjointed.



posted on Jan, 8 2007 @ 02:30 PM
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Originally posted by Frith
I do not trust Clifford Stone.

I can't cite specifics right now, but his information seems to be very disjointed.


If Dr. Greer thinks he's credible enough to present his testimony, then thats good enough for me.



posted on Jan, 8 2007 @ 06:09 PM
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That was a very interesting read
But can someone that's done more research that I'm willing to do, tell me how much i need to take with a box of salt.



posted on Jan, 8 2007 @ 07:07 PM
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Originally posted by Frith
I do not trust Clifford Stone.

I can't cite specifics right now, but his information seems to be very disjointed.


Wow, that's some solid argument here.... .. i mean...
You don't even know the man, what he is gone through, and yet so quick to judge...



posted on Jan, 8 2007 @ 07:59 PM
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I have watched the disclosure project a million times. That Clifford Stone seems a little out there. They should really cut the lady talking about space weapons out of the video shes looks like a nut.



posted on Jan, 8 2007 @ 08:08 PM
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Never judge a man till you walk a mile in his shoes. that way your a mile away and have his shoes



posted on Jan, 8 2007 @ 10:57 PM
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I seemed to have misplaced my research notes but IIRC there's a few problems with Sgt. Clifford "Heinz 57" Stone's claims...

1) His military records show he was assigned as clerk typist throughout his entire career.

2) He claimed to have "accidentally" seen the Ray Santilli "alien autopsy" film while he was in the military years before Santilli "released" it... that is until Santilli admitted it was hoax... oops.

3) Before he became a "researcher" for the Roswell museum at least one well known UFOlogist recalls him asking naive questions about UFOs and aliens and wanting to learn more.

Anyway, this can all be verified via a thorough Google search but I'm feeling a little lazy at the moment...



posted on Jan, 8 2007 @ 11:17 PM
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Thank you to everyone who has posted a view or further info, its seems that Clifford Stone’s credibility is highly questionable. It makes me think that Dr Steven Geer should have done a bit more research on this guy before believing him (especially with magnitude of his statements).
But bearing in mind that governments are highly skilled at dis / mis information and destroying peoples credibility I won’t completely dismiss him.

But if he is a fake it’s greedy morons that him that have held back the process of the human race since we began. Who restrict our better understanding of the world and the true perception of reality.
In that sort of case I say if people are proven as a fake they should all be put in a rocket and fired into the sun, they do no good here lol



posted on Jan, 9 2007 @ 07:28 AM
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Originally posted by Saviour Of The Real


1) His military records show he was assigned as clerk typist throughout his entire career.



I worked on that, and found some more info.


Capt Randle doesn't accept Stone's argument that the clerical training on his military record was only a cover for his specialized training in specialized units such as the Nuclear, Chemical and Biological Warfare training facility. If Stone was only ever a typist, as Capt Randle suggests, then it would be hard to explain how a clerk typist would have knowledge of classified projects such as Moon Dust and Bluefly that prior to Stone's successful FOIA requests, were officially denied to exist. Stone's successful FOIA requests of documents describing classified projects, gives credence to his claims that he had first hand knowledge of these classified projects, and was very likely involved with Projects Moon Dust and Bluefly as a crash retrieval specialist.


Did he have prior knowledge of these projects, and was therefore able to file a FOIA?

www.myufo.com...



posted on Jan, 9 2007 @ 10:18 AM
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Plz, be aware that some people out there are trained at discrediting important figures. It's a vicious arena where the big wolves survive. You have to question both side each time and see if that makes any sense, see what motivates each side...



posted on Mar, 2 2007 @ 11:48 PM
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I implore you all to download and watch the recent Project Camelot video interview with Clifford Stone, to get a fuller picture on the man, his experiences and his credentials.

www.projectcamelot.net...

I notice a few people here are writing half-cocked nonsense about how he has been debunked, is a bit wacky. These people simply cannot handle the truth. In the interview he says it himself that people have preconceived ideas of ET and are not prepared to handle the truth because it doesn't fit with their worldview of what an alien should look like according to their preconceived norms, shaped by the media etc. They can't handle the fact that there are 57 different species and all humanoid - can't handle the fact that we all have a common bond between us all. He's refusing to tell people what they want to hear, he's telling the truth.

If you can't handle the truth, then don't post. You at least owe it to yourself to watch the video interview (runs for nearly an hour) and not take the word of a new member only been here 5 minutes saying that Clifford Stone has been debunked at ATS many times before. How the heck would they know? If you can't handle the fact he knows about underground bases and monorails under the Pentagon, then perhaps the ufo coverup conspiracy isn't your thing. Stick to Fox News and Time Magazine.



posted on Mar, 3 2007 @ 03:00 AM
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He says that he is still buddy with a alien



posted on Mar, 3 2007 @ 03:29 AM
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Do you guys remember the original 2 hour special a few years ago, in which there was this Jesuit (with the curly mop) who claimed he tried to get access to the Vatican library but could not?

If I am to understand correctly, the Jesuits are if anything more in control of the Vatican than the Catholics - although very much similar.

Just thought I'd mention this. Also the fact that the Vatican created rumours about releasing certian UFO secrets a few years ago. Nothing much ever came from this but the Jesuits still do have that giant Observatory in the US. Makes me wonder about the Disclosure Group, as they very much sound similar to Lucis Trust in how they portray the UFO phenomina. Didn't William Cooper warn us about some very sophisticated ufoologist's that were working for the Jesuits?

I'm just saying......?



posted on Mar, 3 2007 @ 09:21 AM
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Originally posted by sweftl337
Do you guys remember the original 2 hour special a few years ago, in which there was this Jesuit (with the curly mop) who claimed he tried to get access to the Vatican library but could not?

If I am to understand correctly, the Jesuits are if anything more in control of the Vatican than the Catholics - although very much similar.

Just thought I'd mention this. Also the fact that the Vatican created rumours about releasing certian UFO secrets a few years ago. Nothing much ever came from this but the Jesuits still do have that giant Observatory in the US. Makes me wonder about the Disclosure Group, as they very much sound similar to Lucis Trust in how they portray the UFO phenomina. Didn't William Cooper warn us about some very sophisticated ufoologist's that were working for the Jesuits?

I'm just saying......?


Well, you can say it, but Dr Greer, in his book, 'Hidden, exposes the Jesuits as part of the central force behind the secret...can't imagine why he would forsake his brethren....



posted on Mar, 3 2007 @ 12:04 PM
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Originally posted by MagicalRat
Old Cliff has been discussed and debunked several times on this site.

In the Disclosure book he talks about a monorail beneath the Pentagon with "entities" working with the government agents...in fact, a lot of what Cliff says makes for a good sc-fi film.

Someone said he now works at Roswell Museum. Surely visitors to this site can back up this claim, maybe they have met him? Nobody on here has had the desire to visit Roswell on a vacation and stop by at the museum?

I just emailed the museum to see if Clifford can be contacted there.

[edit on 8-1-2007 by MagicalRat]

Debunked! LOL.

So, we have Debunking authorities here? Let me laugh.
Mostly people that if confronted to a real UFO, they would still call it a mirage or swamp gases.



posted on Mar, 3 2007 @ 01:02 PM
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I really enjoyed the video interview. I so want what he says to be true. I believe in ET so why shouldn't it be? It would of been nice to have seen some sketches of his aliens and diagrams, or a photo to back up his story.

However, in order to make a good judgment of his character and believe he is credible without ever meeting him, one must take in account the possibililty that he has a psychological issue going on, such as post traumatic stress disorder He talks about "imaginary friends" as a little kid, being in Vietnam and of course, the tragic loss of his son. So even without being involved with ET and the cover-up Mr Stone has clearly suffered through a lot of torment and the mind is very sensitive that it can only handle so much trauma in one lifetime..





[edit on 3-3-2007 by SwingingMonkey]



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