Originally posted by scepticalwatcher
yeah you know, it just seems like a smart idea. Maybe the Canadian Wilderness. I hear the hunting/fishing is great there...

Absolutely. I think, in light of what I see coming, getting as self-sufficient as possible is everyone's safest bet.

Just today I heard on the news that if anyone has had a vacination this past year, they will need to keep getting them. Has something to do with the bodies natural defences attacking the vacine, so more shot are required.

I had a feeling this would be the case, I havn't found any online sources yet. Will post when I do though, as I'm sure it will be all over the news soon enough.

I agree that this flu scare is just pretty fake. The CDC is already calling this flu scare an "epidemic". What BS . Apparently the actual shots were once $40 and are now $200 (US) !!!! So, from all this hype I'm guessing this is just another way for those Big Ass Corporations (B.A.C.) to get more money.

Originally posted by TheCatalyst
I agree that this flu scare is just pretty fake. The CDC is already calling this flu scare an "epidemic". What BS . Apparently the actual shots were once $40 and are now $200 (US) !!!! So, from all this hype I'm guessing this is just another way for those Big Ass Corporations (B.A.C.) to get more money.

Yep. It's a fact Jack. Did ya'll know Bayer Corp. (they make CIPRO) was going bankrupt before the Athrax scare? That fixed it for a good while.

And that part about how those who get these shots have to keep getting them?! What a load of horseshyte. That oughtta tell everyone exactly what they need to know.

I don't like it. The gov't has a mass mind control planned for 2004, this may be a part of it.

Originally posted by gog
I don't like it. The gov't has a mass mind control planned for 2004, this may be a part of it.

What do you mean, Gog? Do you have any information about this? Enlighten us.

temp change doesn't really have anything to do with your being sick or not, i've had the flu in the summer, has more to do with how much you pick your nose or rub your eyes or lack of washing your hands.

i refuse all shots...so does my doctor

Originally posted by razorbackhater
temp change doesn't really have anything to do with your being sick or not, i've had the flu in the summer, has more to do with how much you pick your nose or rub your eyes or lack of washing your hands.

i refuse all shots...so does my doctor

Your doctor does? Hmmm... Sounds like he knows sumthin the media pretends not to. Like maybe what a load of BS the scare is. I do know this, if you want to put even more money into the coffers of those who would enslave you with poison, go on ahead, run down and stick your arm out for the infusion. As for me, I've had all the shots I will ever need for two lifetimes after being in the Army and a war. Series after series. All I can say, is thank God I have a strong constitution.

Wednesday I got a sore throat Thursday I feel stuffed up lungs filled with flim. Saturday 101 fever feel like hell same today you guys like I got the flu?

Originally posted by DiRtYDeViL
Wednesday I got a sore throat Thursday I feel stuffed up lungs filled with flim. Saturday 101 fever feel like hell same today you guys like I got the flu?

Don't know, man. Get rest. Keep warm. Drink fluids. (a shot of liquor helps, too.) And get better.

Originally posted by forsakenwayfarer

Calm down, folk is really sick. My whole fam done came down with this flu. It's because of the weather. The ground here aint even frozen. It's barely cold. Check the states hit the hardest...it's climate change that's what they tryin to cover for.

can we have that in english please

"trying" to be a smart-ass doesnt help a lot....you've critisized enough already, you're starting to make yourself out as this instead of this

so chill out ok? having a bad day does not, in any sense...mean you can go shifting your weight around here.
and besides, she made everything perfectly obvious.
*shrugs*

ps: i think i'll stay out of this thread, i've already had my flu...got over it pretty quick, i'm always liable to get flus, but that's what excercise is for.
am going tomorrow morning for a swim in a nearby pond, the water's around 10 degs...so errrm, keep in mind that the more excerise you do, the fitter your immune system gets.
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[Edited on 21-12-2003 by Cyrus]

As Cyrus pointed out, there's no reason to get nasty here. Everybody's comments are more than welcome. This thread is to inform people of the inherent dangers and pharma-fraud not discussed by the mainstream - not to attack each other.

Thanks for all your comments. I hope it helps somebody out there and keeps people safe.

after reading conspiracy info like things from David Icke and Alex Jones, I've really gotten more interested in things like vaccinations. I used to think before recently that a vaccination was some special antidote that fights off a virus but then I figured out that a vaccination is just a virus injected into your arm to make you somehow immune to the virus head on. While this may sound good it's really not all that good at all. Just think of the implications. If doctors are using viruses to combat viruses, what good is it really? and how do we know that while these viruses through a guise of 'vaccination' are really protecting us against getting the flu and aren't also damaging other parts of our immune system or body?

I have researched somewhat into the whole AIDS scare and I am convinced that AIDS is a biological weapon just as a lot of other viruses are. AIDS just appeared largely onto the scene about 20 years ago but I think the supposed SIV is a lot older. And the scientists make ridiculous claims that I've heard like "HIV comes from some mutation for humans from SIV or some other viruses from a green african monkey." what green african monkey?? It's also very interesting how AIDS really isn't even a disease in itself. It's just the next phase in immunodeficiency caused by HIV and no one dies of AIDS but they die of an opportunistic disease b/c their immune system is messed up. Look at Hepatitis A,B, and C. They affect the liver. the flu virus affects our immune system and #. strep throat affects the lungs. mono is contracted through french kissing and affects ur mouth or something I believe.

Viruses are interesting things. While they do seem to have some properties of living things, science doesn't classify them as living b/c of their stupid "5 rules to living things." ay carumba. science has gotten too institutionalized and organized and messed up that people are afraid to classify tomatoes as what they rightfully are: VEGETABLES! b/c they have stupid little seeds. What fruit do you know looks and tastes like a tomato? My definition of fruits is they're sweet most of the time and vegetables taste weird. they're both produce. it sure beats the hell outta science's definition.

I agree with EastCoastKid. I do not trust all these new vaccinations!

In 1987 I had a freaky dream. Individuals where required to carry a type of vaccine passport to cross into another state within the United States and reqions of "quarantined sections of the US".

In this dream I viewed a festival like event where huge groups of people are receiving injections before entering the event. They were told it would keep them healty. Few people rejected, but when one did - they where escorted to a bus and told that the would be taken to the parking lot so that they could leave.

They were not taken to the parking lot but a out-of-sight location where they drugged the bus load of people via the air and injected the sleeping victims.

At the time of the dream I understood that the injections had something else in them that allowed humans to be controlled. Now, as time has passed - nano tech. seams plausible.

[Edited on 12-21-2003 by Svengali]

AlexJones,
Thanks for your thoughtful comments. You don't know how on track you are!

AFter doing my own extensive research in the aftermath of 9-11, I am more than convinced that AIDS was indeed developed as a bioweapon. It was introduced into the gay population of New York and black population in Africa at the same time through mass vaccinations. This is not speculation or theory. This is a fact. Everyone should look into it. This is one of the main reasons I am so opposed to vaccination upon vaccination. Unless you are a trained medical person, you truly don't know what they are putting in you!

Micro chips can now be injected into you, too, through the tip of a needle. If the government wanted to mass chip everyone, they wouldn't even have to tell us. They'd just say something like, "hey folks, there's an extremely deadly virus going around! Get that vaccination - and hurry up - or you'll die!" Anyone who thinks the government wouldn't do something like that is living in la la land.

AJ - you made another great point - What are these new vaccines doing to other parts of our immune system? These could actually do more damage in the long run in that respect, even if this drive to be immunized is benign.

The bottom line is this: Before you stick your arm out, or your baby's arm out, KNOW what you are truly taking in. It could be life, death or autism.

Peace.

Yep, you are right. Are bodies were made to combat most anything, as long as we take care of our bodies ( exercising, eating the right foods, hygeine) we don't have a lot to worry about. The human body is an amazing thing. It never ceases to amaze me on how we can bounce back from so much. So, yeah, refuse any kind of vaccination, become self sufficient. Can you imagine what a melting pot of foriegn chemicals are bodies are?

Well, no one in my family has had the shot. (wife and son) and we've been around dozens of people who have and they all have been hit hard. We've moved in the last month and been fatiqued, cold, wet, tired. But none of us has had the flu. I don't subscribe to these vaccinations being a cure all. I can understand the elderly getting them because something like that could kill them but to me, keeping myself healthy is a better defense. Plenty of protein, non-flouridated water, exercise, and of course the occasional stiff drink of pure grain and mountain dew. After a couple of those , your going to heaven cause it'll kick the hell out of ya. Also, plenty of rest as well. I try to get at least 6 hours a night.

I had heard , maybe on this board, that the new Bible Code listed Kissinger as the anti-Christ and crossing his name was the word Vaccines. That made me take notice. At least made me think twice before getting a shot of the stuff. I've never had one and likely won't be getting one any time soon.

They tried to give me one at the polls during our last local election to which I replied, "No, thanks, I'm not buying it."




after all , I am the astrocreep.

[Edited on 9-1-2004 by astrocreep]