Confessions of a Area 51 employee

Originally posted by Acharya
Hiding your IP is easy with a HTTP Proxy, hackers use them all the time, they require no skill to use, you simply add the URL to the proxy in your browser setup. It may be that Mr. X here uses such a service, he would be quite safe in such a case, atleast for the time being. Some HTTP proxies logs IP addresses of users though, hopefully he has not been using one of those. The only traceable IP is to the HTTP Proxy server itself. When it comes to YouTube, it is not certain that they log IP addresses, they might not be, we just dont know, and even if they did it might not be trivial to get those logs, there might be alot of legal stuff before they get hold of the logs (if they dont call him a terrorist, then they probably dont have to go through the regular legal channels).

[edit on 7-1-2007 by Acharya]

He said he possed little knowledge of computers, so I doubt he knowledge of an http proxy.

[edit on 7-1-2007 by kleverone]

it reminds me of a TV show. "want to find out what was so amazing that i saw? tune in next time when i reveal more details of my escapades deep into Area 51!" i dont know maybe that's just how i perceive things because of my own mental bias: i want to believe that our government (or black ops shadow government) is really in some form of contact or contract with extraterrestrial and/or ultradimensional beings. i wouldn't mind Sleeper's take on this, or John Lear's. (I wish you'd still post on here John, I miss your input greatly.) sorry if i trailed a bit off-topic.

atlantean

[edit on 8-1-2007 by atlantean homebound]

of course he didn't see ufos at area 51 because they keep the ufos at S4 and the aliens are found on levels 5 and below.

Originally posted by kleverone

Originally posted by Acharya
Hiding your IP is easy with a HTTP Proxy, hackers use them all the time, they require no skill to use, you simply add the URL to the proxy in your browser setup. It may be that Mr. X here uses such a service, he would be quite safe in such a case, atleast for the time being. Some HTTP proxies logs IP addresses of users though, hopefully he has not been using one of those. The only traceable IP is to the HTTP Proxy server itself. When it comes to YouTube, it is not certain that they log IP addresses, they might not be, we just dont know, and even if they did it might not be trivial to get those logs, there might be alot of legal stuff before they get hold of the logs (if they dont call him a terrorist, then they probably dont have to go through the regular legal channels).

[edit on 7-1-2007 by Acharya]

He said he possed little knowledge of computers, so I doubt he knowledge of an http proxy.

[edit on 7-1-2007 by kleverone]

I have heard rumors that the NSA and CIA have special systems that CAN backtrack through those programs. *sniff *sniff ... *sniff

Originally posted by 2stepsfromtop
I have heard rumors that the NSA and CIA have special systems that CAN backtrack through those programs.

That would be entirely possible. And most likely probable, as well.

If the feds want to get someone, rest assured they will.

I'm on the "hoax" side as well. For the same reason already mentioned. "The Hook"... "Tune in next time for the truth to be revealed"...?! Why does he have a "time limit"??? If you have information you want to get out to as many people as possible, you're going to get to the juicy/important parts immediately. You're not going to go on and on about what a "golf car" is called and what speed it goes. If you've seen something so "awesome" you won't be bothered by such minor details such as what a mode of transport is called.

And further, as someone said earlier in this thread - what kind of security does this place have that you can go for a joy ride in a mile long hangar without being noticed? Are you telling me that they travel in a gigantic hangar/corridor - a mile long, and they don't pass anyone else on their way? That their pretty new "insect plane" is standing all alone at the end of the corridor with no security coverage?

Gmph. Not sold. Sorry.

If that is the case then i kind of feel sorry for the guy. Even if it is a hoax, claims like this tend to lead to the author disappearing.

Care to elaborate on what you mean by this?

As for the whole story.......it just doesnt add up......good imagination though.

MR

[edit on AMMon, 8 Jan 2007 08:16:09 -060009e by Marlborough Red]

Originally posted by Marlborough Red

If that is the case then i kind of feel sorry for the guy. Even if it is a hoax, claims like this tend to lead to the author disappearing.

Care to elaborate on what you mean by this?

As for the whole story.......it just doesnt add up......good imagination though.

MR

[edit on AMMon, 8 Jan 2007 08:16:09 -060009e by Marlborough Red]

Meaning they are 'disappeared'... they happen to die in some freak accident or just seem to vanish off the face of the earth... claims like this, even if just a hoax, still give the believers fuel that i'm sure the authorities don't like. People have been done away with for much less.

Just by the writing style and choice of words it sounds like a kid who is bored.

youtube.com...

above is his lattest post. Also i was at area 51 3 days ago and emailed this guy. He has not answered me. If he really works there he could verify a few insane things that happened to me that night regarding his line of work...

TRANSCRIPT:
Mr. X signing in.

Once again, I am going to devote this entire segment to answering questions and explaining some seeming inconsistencies and plot holes.

First of all, though, I want to rant once again about the poor quality of the YouTube functions. I find it highly frustrating that one is unable to reply to more than 3 or 4 messages before being blocked for 10 minutes from replying to even messages on one's OWN video. I understand this an anti-SPAM measure, but it is far too restrictive. It should at least allow 10 messages before it locks you out. And it should not be a 10-minute wait to post once again. And it should NEVER block you from posting on your own videos. Are you going to SPAM your own videos? Anyway, this is a very quasi-nazi system, and it reminds me of the mentality of those who rule Area 51. Also there should be a better way to distinguish the remove button from the reply button. I meant to reply to a message, and actually pressed the "remove" button. So, unfortunately, that YouTube member, whose name I did not happen to catch, I will not be able to reply to his message.

Actually, I can. The poster pointed out that YouTube records ISPs. And I am well aware of that, and that's why my internet connection is encrypted through a special filter. I can't be entirely specific about the technology, because it would potentially compromise my anonymity.

Now, to answer a question I received in a private message. This YouTube member observantly pointed out, that I would have been caught on camera in the sub-level, because, no doubt, an installation that is as intensely guarded and secure as Area 51 would no doubt have surveillance cameras all over the place. I wondered this too at the time, and that's why I asked the individual, my buddy, who spirited me through this place. And he explained that, while there are thousands upon thousands of cameras planted throughout the underground facility, their sheer quantity makes it impossible for total human monitoring of the videos. So most of the video is only reviewed if they have an incident or potential security breach. There are several sections that ARE under constant human surveillance, and my buddy made sure to steer clear of those. And while the section that houses the Aurora 2 that I recounted seeing is heavily monitored, the observatory room from which we viewed the aircraft was not at all monitored. And from what I understand, the security for sub-level 1 and sub-level 2 is not nearly as austere as it is for sub-levels 3 and 4. And that brings me back to a statement I need to correct from an earlier segment. In the third segment of this series, I said that, based on the size of sub-level 1, the following 3 sub-levels must have been huge--and that may have been a slight exaggeration, because, based on what my buddy told me, the sub-levels grow physically smaller but more important as you go down. From what I understand, while sub-level 1 houses the black aircraft, sub-level 2 is for weapons development, sub level 3 are the laboratories, and sub-level 4, the most important, is where all the Area 51 elite gather and do whatever they do down there (play penuckle). Well, that's like a war room. And an extreme select few, maybe 10 to 15 indivudals, have ever set foot on that level. And I must admit, this is all hearsay on my buddy's part, because he's only seen level 1, but he's picked up rumors through the chain of command, and, based on what I saw on level 1, I believe it.

Before I go, I want to mention a couple current news stories I found intriguing. The first is this phantom gas in New York City, I'm sure you've all heard about today. And this UFO sighting at a Chicago airport a few days ago. While I haven't heard anything that necessarily leads me to believe that these are secret military opperations, they bear all the earmarks of Area 51 strategic diversions. So I'll be sure to keep a close eye on that.

Well, that's it for today, kiddies. I hope you'll join me in my covert, underground parlor next time. But, until then, of course, Godspeed. ... (more) (less)

[edit on 9-1-2007 by hiii_98]

I find it highly unlikely that this buddy of his would have called the planes "TR3A 'Black Manta'" and "Aurora 2". The later sounds like a bad action movie. Does the military even name planes like sequels?

I will be interested to see if his explanation of the cattle mutilations has to do with the government checking the soft tissue in cattle for accumulation of radiation from the old testing done in that area. It would doubly fit if the Roswell Incident was in fact a mishap, perhaps a failed test of the first long range missiles. I believe its now declassified that Wernher von Braun was doing testing with V2’s out in that area, at that time. As we were racing to beat the Russians in our long range delivery capabilities, I am sure that some risks were taken that they do not wish us to know about. I would imagine that if there was a mishap that they would have to cover it up since folks would be upset to find out that an ICBM almost landed in their backyard.

If anyone saw the Sci-Fi investigates episode about Dulce, you might have noticed that when they talked to the Sheriff about the mutilations out there, he eluded to this being what was going on. That it had nothing to do with aliens, much to the chagrin of the believers out there, but rather it was a government operation and he was reluctant to go into further detail.

Now I have been asked here before, “Why would the government not just buy those cattle at market and then test them”. Well I can think of several very good reasons for that. First if word got out that they were buying those cattle it would encourage the ranchers to increase the cost of the cattle to gouge them for money. Secondly it would tip people off to the fact that they were checking for something that those cattle had been exposed too, something that may similarly be harmful to humans. Third because if they had to purchase livestock then there are a bunch of rules that they have to follow, including budgeting it and the paper trail that goes along with that.

Anyway, so far I don’t find this fellows explanations to be that far fetched, and actually much more rational then most of the ones I have heard in the past. As to the folks here that are picking on the lack of internal security, well any place such as a military base, an airport, or a hospital is like a small city unto itself, and folks that have been there for awhile sometimes get to see and hear things that they really are not supposed too. It’s really not that far fetched to me that a security person would make friends with someone and not be questioned while being escorted by that person around the base.

Besides this, the main security is at the parameter of any facility, generally security is much more relaxed once you are inside such a place and have on the appropriate identification. However, most places with different security levels have different colored ID’s for each level, but if you are under escort by someone with access to that level, then he most likely could get away with it


[edit on 1/9/2007 by defcon5]

What I am, is part of the special military force that guards the perimeter of the facility

How a special-op knows so much about each segment of area 51, mostly when he is paid to guarantee the clearence and safety of the facility and not to raises questions like what is at sub1 or what there is inside syb2?

I have acquainted a security guard, friend of mine, whose job is to patrol the area around a bulding and not to have access or any khowledge of what the corporation he works for have instore

Why do you think they would reveal you, a humble patriot guard, the secrets of long years cover-up. Do you think that those who work for them in secret bases are to be trusted?
Do you take them for fools?
Let's trust your sayings and believe you are aguard, look what you have just done...
... you unveiled their secret vessel ''Aurora''!!!
Do you think they are naive to have every guard hanging around their secret sectors?

Area 51 is really a government within itself. And I know this is a fact few outside of the circle of Area 51 know, but, if the President of the United States himself demanded to see certain areas of Area 51 that were deemed above his security clearance level, the guards would be authorized to shoot him. Is that not the proverbial inmates running the prison? Tell me, what kind of military installation is so special and secret, that not even the President himself has total access to it?

This is the argument you first stated!!!
When guards see the President of the USA into certain sectors they are authorised to shoot. Imagine the security and they ignore to stop you and your buddy??? After all what kind of authorisatin has your buddy that the President has not by hmself?

Maybe you should investigate from what ilk you buddy comes from.
I will not be suprised if you state in your next post that he is a chief in comand of area 51.

[edit on 9-1-2007 by Dragonlike]

So, the guy has an at least 8 yr old PC and is not computer savvy but his internet connection has an ultra special encryption that he can't even talk about?

Just another nail in the coffin as this guy can't remember his own story or even be bothered to go back and review it so that he doesn't trip himself up.

Correct me if I'm wrong but to have such an advanced internet connection (as he claims) wouldn't he need to be running a pretty up to date OS? I would say he's running a P3 if it's more than 8 years old.

Of course, if you're making it up as you go, then you would probably have to break it up into segments.

HOAX!

Guess this guy was in fact a hoaxer? Unless maybe "they" got him.

Interesting how he just dropped off the radar. . . .

Originally posted by infinite8
If hes trying to be so secret about what he does, someone should suggest to him that he stop giving more information about what job he holds, where he has worked before, etc.

Exactly. that was extremely funny! And the information he gave about people who work in area 51 living in Nevada and being flown in is something that is well known. It's been on the news and it's openly discussed.

And also he claims to be a 'true patriot'. Yeah right.

If he were then he wouldn't mind that people were being distracted with alleged UFO disinformation so that the military could get it's work done on national security projects to keep us all safer.

I don't buy this at all. Nice try at a hoax .. but it fails.

There are some severe problems with this "story"...

First off, he hasn't really said anything that isn't either a) commonly known, or b) commonly believed.

Second, you can't just "piggy back" on someone else's clearance to get into restricted areas (of any such facility, Groom especially) when you're talking about classified aircraft. Hell, you couldn't do this even for admitted secret aircraft such as the Raptor. EVERY person admitted goes through the same security, and unless you have clearance or orders (and thus granted temporary clearance), you don't pass the checkpoint.

Third, a guy isn't going to risk such an assignment (and paycheck, not to mention a Court Martial) to get a buddy in for a looksie... Anyone who believes this has no idea how the military functions. He may be your bestest pal in the whole world, but if he doesn't have clearance, you don't even talk to him about it, let alone take him on a field trip...

Fourth, the 10pm Phoenix Lights event didn't exhibit anything (duration of less than 5 minutes, appearance, or descent method, etc.) that isn't compatible with existing technology (and quite common) illumination flares. (This isn't to say the earlier sighting isn't still unexplained, it's still a mystery, but this idea of new, secret flares, simply doesn't sound accurate). Also, there are far easier ways to covertly gas the public, if that was the intention.

This story is utter nonsense in my own opinion, and for the reasons stated.

"Aurora 2" gimme a break!

[edit on 15-1-2007 by Gazrok]

Those were very entertaining. Thanks for posting.

TRANSCRIPT:
Mr. X. Signing in once again.

For those few who eagerly await each installment of this series, my apologies for the delay. However, due to many things, I cannot guarantee how many--or how often--videos you will see from this point forward.

Now, I am going to address a question from the member bidonpseudo, because I feel the nature of the answer is most apropos, and it's something I should have touched on earlier. It's extremely pertinent to the entire Area 51 issue. Bidonpseudo asks: "Could you be more precise when you say that this elite is not part of the government ? I mean they are chosen among high ranking employees of the federal government, right ? Are they only military or some of them are civilians?" And to quote, verbatim, my answer: "Yes, they are appointed by the government. But what has happened, they have become megalomaniacs with all the power and secracy that they have been given. They have exploited those powers to secretly usurp the government, occasionally making unwitting puppets of presidents. The "elite" is comprised of both military and high-ranking public officials, while the sub-elite are mostly military. They see themselves as Nietzsche "ubermensch," while those who work for them are the "untermensch." All non-governmental civilians are alternately classified as "organic resources" or "biological assets." There are certain exceptions, however, such as those with special education or those with Einsteinian-caliber intellects. While their general agenda is fascist, they do not discriminate against any ethnicity, and have, from what I know, at least one high-ranking African-American within their circle." To delve deeper into my story, without me having to repeat everything, I suggest that everyone who watch these videos--if you haven't done this already--be sure to check out all the comments on my profile page. But yes, from what I understand, the "elite" I often refer to, have a very Dr. Strangelove-esque mentality.

Now, tonight, I want to cover cattle mutliations. As you know, the regions most laden with this phenomenon--New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada, etc.--are near many of the atomic bomb test sites during the 40's and 50's. And, of course, UFO buffs attribute it to aliens. And what a species as highly evolved enough and scientifically advanced enough to travel millions of miles [I meant light years] would want with a ton of walking hamburger, I have no idea. But there are also those who attribute it to satanic cult sacrifices--which there has never been any evidence that satanic cults practice such bloody sacrifices. And the average skeptic attributes it to the common predators. And the truth is, common predators like coyotes are probably responsible for many, if not most, of the mutliations. However, through my colleague, I have learned that elements within Area 51 are responsible for at least some of the mutilations throughout the southwest. And the purpose of this, is to test for lingering radiocative contamination in the livestock from all the nuclear and atomic weapons tests from the 50's hayday. And if you look, you'll find what types of organs are usually removed from the bovine carcasses, you will find that they are the exact organs that would be required to test for such contamination. And many of the wounds present on the carcasses seem to be made with a precision type laser, which I can assure you the military is in possession of--a variety of such weapons, in fact. Just do a little research, and you will find that they do indeed exist. Also, eyewitnesses have spotted black helicopters at or around the site of cattle mutilation incidents. And I can tell you that Area 51 houses a veritable fleet of these black helicopters, that were designed and constructed by McDonald-Douglass. And they are equipped with a special rotary-propeller system that renders the propellers and engine virtually silent. And this is something that's in the white territory. You can do a little research yourself and find out that these do indeed exist. You don't have to take my word for it on this one. Now, you may ask, why doesn't the military just go out and buy their own heard of cattle to test? A. It would raise too much suspicion. And B. They require random, uncontrolled samples to properly evaluate the level of contamination. And from what I know, the findings have been highly disturbing, which may explain the exponential growth in cancer rate over the last 50 years. Anyway, they usually test these bovine carcasses while in the air. It's a very fast, clockwork-like surgical procedure--they remove necessary organs, and then drop the cattle back to the ground. And that's why, in some of the cattle mutilations, they find that the bones are actually broken. And that explains how, when they are dropped from such a height.

I would like to go into further detail, but I'm afraid I'm out of time for today. So, until next time, Godspeed. ... (more) (less)

Complete fantasy. Utter rubbish. This "Mr. X" does a great disservice to all who have researched the true history of Area 51.

Hopefully, few people will be taken in by this charlatan.