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On Friday, August 12, New Mexico governor Bill Richardson declared a state of emergency in four counties. The following Monday, Arizona governor Janet Napolitano did the same. And the federal government is less than pleased.
HARLINGEN, Texas -- Authorities were investigating Thursday whether Mexican gunmen who fired on deputies and Border Patrol agents from across the Rio Grande had crossed into the U.S.
Hidalgo County Sheriff Lupe Trevino said 200 to 300 shots were fired from automatic weapons Wednesday night, but no one was injured on the U.S. side and police didn't fire back
You'd think frequent gun battles along the U.S.-Mexico border between federal agents and citizen border-monitoring groups on this side, and drug and people smugglers on the other side, would make the national headlines.
Samaniego recalled another Mexican military incursion he said had taken place in Santa Teresa, N.M., located across the state line from El Paso. Mexican soldiers in two Humvees "chased after" a U.S. Border Patrol agent until backup arrived while another U.S. agent also came under gunfire, Samaniego told Cybercast News Service
"The U.S. Border Patrol is telling its agents to just lay low and report on what they see," he said. "They are instructed to determine the size of the [Mexican military] unit, the number of personnel, the direction of travel."
Originally posted by jtma508
Does anyone know what the NG's orders are relative to rules-of-engagement? Are they authorized to return fire? Just cause we have military units on the border doesn't mean they can fire back. And given that possibility, there is no other option but to retreat. This is a sticky problem. We have heavily armed drug runners who are crossing the same border as women and children. Had the guard wasted a dozen drug runners carrying SMG's everyone would be getting high fives. But what if they were fired-on and in the course of returning fire killed a half dozen women and children? That would play quite a bit differently on CNN.
Originally posted by dawnstar
so they ran???
how nice.....but if we pull out of Iraq, that will send a clear message worldwide that we don't have the gall to protect our country.....
God, tell mexico that we see this as an act of war, if it happens again, we'll take over their flea bitten country and take all their oil!!
ahhh, what the heck, they probably didn't have any spare bullets to give the border patrol, so they couldn't fire a few shots over the gang's head...budget cuts and all....wait a minute, what budget cuts???
every day a little more evidence comes up that just reinforces the idea that the american people are being taken as fools!
More than 200 incursions by the Mexican military of the U.S. southern border have been documented since the late 1990s, Rep. Ted Poe (R-Texas) said in an interview.
"Our federal government denied it occurred until the Texas sheriffs took photos," he said. "There is no nation in the world that would allow this invasion to occur except for the United States."
In an article published in Investor's Business Daily (see ), Fox was quoted saying that "an aging U.S. population would be well served by allowing more free-flowing immigration of a decidedly younger Mexican population into the United States."
The Guardsmen, through an Arizona Border Patrol official, confirmed that the incident appeared to be an intelligence-gathering exercise designed to ascertain what the National Guard’s response would be to certain tactics. It is not an isolated incident, and many such probes have been reported by the Guardsmen assigned to the area. Though no shots were fired during this particular incident, shots have been fired near and in the vicinity of the soldiers at the EIT site in other situations, though not at the soldiers themselves. It is not clear from the uniforms if the Mexican soldiers were official Mexican federales or mercenaries hired by the drug cartels.
Since then, follow-on news reports have included statements from the Border Patrol that no shots were fired. This was confirmed today by Major Paul Aguirre, a Public Affairs Officer (PAO) for the Arizona National Guard. Rumors have circulated that the Guardsmen were not armed, and thus unable to defend themselves - and that is not the case. Both Major Aguirre and Rob Daniels, a Public Information Officer (PIO) for the Arizona Border Patrol, state that all Guardsmen assigned to EITs are armed, specifically with M16s and sometimes a sidearm. As well, there have been some contradictory news reports that stated the gunmen came “within yards” of the Guardsmen, while other reports state that the gunmen were approximately 100 yards away. Mr. Daniels clarified that the gunmen came as close as 100 yards to the Guardsmen. He also stated that the Guardsmen did not “retreat” but tactically repositioned themselves to maintain surveillance of the group of armed men while simultaneously radioing for Border Patrol agents. He asserted that the Guardsmen had followed their protocols perfectly, and that their services were invaluable to the Border Patrol agents.