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12-Year-Old Special Education Student Charged With Disorderly Conduct for Wetting Pants

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posted on Jan, 4 2007 @ 11:48 PM
Has this country gone completly Coo Coo?
The law has gone crazy.
Police are nuts.
And its going to get worse,take this for example.
Arresting a "Special" child for peeing.

(, Pa. — A 12-year-old special education student was charged with disorderly conduct after authorities said she deliberately wet her pants at school.

Her mother told the Press Enterprise of Bloomsburg that the girl urinated only because she was frightened by the principal.

The girl, whose name was withheld by the newspaper, had worked with her classmates and teachers preparing a holiday lunch at Danville Middle School on Dec. 20. They ate in the library and the girl was told to go to the kitchen to wash some pots and pans, her mother said.

After she refused to leave the library, teachers summoned principal Kevin Duckwork, who confronted the girl. She then wet her pants.

Her mother said the girl is terrified by Duckwork and has wet herself during previous confrontations with him. She said her daughter has had disciplinary problems at the school but has never become violent.

Police Chief Eric Gill said school officials were at "wit's end" with the girl, and that they believe her actions were deliberate.

Police told the girl's parents they could probably avoid a fine if they agree to have the girl do community service.

posted on Jan, 5 2007 @ 12:01 AM
Children who feel a loss of control, often exhibit control over the only thing that they can control; what goes into their bodies and what comes out. It is not uncommon for children to wet or soil themselves or even throw up when they feel threatened. This is not necessarily a deliberate act, but is often an unconscious act.

The school over reacted. Instead of calling the police, they should have called the mother and had the child taken home.

posted on Jan, 5 2007 @ 12:13 AM
So the big bad principal scares the pee out of a 12 year-old retarded girl, then calls the police and charges her with disorderly conduct ???

In Pennsylvania, huh?

I thought it must have happened in Florida.


Even more unbelievable that this guy can get a job in the education system.

posted on Jan, 5 2007 @ 01:04 AM
If the mother knew of the girls fears and that it was a repeated thing, then why didn't the mother move her to a different school where she could learn without fear or take her to a specialist where should could be taught to overcome her fears?

posted on Jan, 5 2007 @ 01:32 AM

Police told the girl's parents they could probably avoid a fine if they agree to have the girl do community service.

This is what I find absolutely insane.

A 12 year-old special needs child wets her pants and they want her to do community service?

I went to elementary school with a fellow (borderline special need) that would involuntarily void his bowels in the middle of class. The humiliation of crapping his pants in class and having to be sent home to change was probably punishment enough, not that such a thing deserves punishment.

I don't recall anyone ever calling the police over it.

posted on Jan, 5 2007 @ 03:20 AM
The charges were dropped.

Authorities in Danville, Pa., have decided to drop a disorderly conduct charge against a 12-year-old special education student who they accused of deliberately wetting her pants at school.

A school superintendent now says that it was a mistake to bring police into a case of school discipline.

Utter nonsense.

Calling the cops because a young girl wet her pants? The principal should be the one doing community service; let Mr. Duckwork pick up dog turds in the park, since I suspect it's the only job he's remotely qualified for, judging by his stellar handling of this incident.

Seriously - if this is what passes for a school administrator in Pennsylvania, God help that state and the children who are unfortunate enough to reside there...

posted on Jan, 5 2007 @ 03:45 AM
man wtf the police there are even worse than the principal my god couldnt they even be in puirsuit of shop lifters 12 years olds wettings pant i can image in my head

police sagent getting it over the radio

"jhon we got a 568b "
"barry did you say 567b"
"no jhonny 568b call "

my god call off all vialators we need a imergency back up team
and a negotiater

"butt sir what about the hostige situation down town in the bank"

"dont worry we caught the retared girl weting her self in the library send all the troops there this time shes not getting away"

posted on Jan, 5 2007 @ 07:24 AM
Oh my Lord..
All kids do this never mind special needs kids, when nervous.
That principal sounds like he needs to be struck off and never come in contact with children again..

posted on Jan, 5 2007 @ 08:39 AM
I don't see a girl doing this on purpos still, Mainly due to the embarresment

posted on Jan, 5 2007 @ 03:33 PM
Ok, ok, now hold up a minute. While I agree that the school should not have called the cops, you people are jumping to a lot of conclusions here.

So the big bad principal scares the pee out of a 12 year-old retarded girl,

Where in the article did you read that she was retarded? For someone who does such extensive research about bird flu, I'm surprised that you answered this way. The article said she was a special education student. That can mean ANYTHING! Yes, some special ed students are mentally challenged (they don't like being called "retarded"), some are physically handicapped, but there are some special ed classes that are for kids that have behavior problems also. When I went to highschool, there were classes that were called special education that was especially for all the druggies and problem children.

Don't let the media play on your sympathies like that. Read the article for what it is. That's how rumors start and untruthes are told.

Now with that all cleared up, as I read the article I thought it was stupid for them to call the cops also. But we also don't know all the facts either. Maybe she was being threatening, really doing an act of disorderly conduct. We never believe the news otherwise, why is everybody assuming now???

Just my two cents...

posted on Jan, 5 2007 @ 03:48 PM
I highly doubt that any 12 year old special ed child who is not mentally handicapped would "wet their pants" purposefully out of spite. But if she did do that ... that would mean she has some mental problems. So, either way, the girl has issues and didn't deserve the police charging her with disorderly conduct.


[edit on 5-1-2007 by xEphon]

posted on Jan, 5 2007 @ 04:17 PM
I never said that they were right in calling the cops, infact I said they shouldn't have. I just said we don't have all the facts and people are starting to assume things they don't know for sure. Yes, anyone who would do this purposely has problems, but if they're causing a disturbance, there might be a time when you do need to call the police. There are a lot of strange behaviors out there - you don't have all the facts and this website is to deny ingnorance, right? You say you doubt any 12 year old would wet their pants on purpose? One time when I was in Chicago, I had to stop at a gas station to use the bathroom. There was poop smeared all over the walls and floor of this bathroom. Do you think people don't do strange things like this? Needless to say I found another bathroom.

posted on Jan, 5 2007 @ 04:47 PM
Pathetic, absolutely pathetic. If I were the parents, I would find an attorney and charge the school. If a child is so afraid of an adult that she wets herself there is more going on then meets the eye. That is some major fear he has instilled and should not be around children if that is in fact how they react to him. Has this made the mainstream media?

posted on Jan, 5 2007 @ 04:58 PM
What can I say now we most call the police and make sure that this act of terrorism will no be use in any circumstances by children with special needs.

I am very surprise that homeland security didn't show up to back up the police.

Really!!!!!! it amazed me how far our law enforcement is going since the war on terror started.

posted on Jan, 5 2007 @ 05:07 PM
This is possibly the sickest thing I have ever read.
I work with all sorts of special education (volunteer stuff) ranging from the mentaly or physicaly handicaped to people who just have trouble but are not mentaly or physicaly challenged, and all that I can say since we dont know the degree of her hadnicap, is that there is something seriousyl wrong with that principle, and I think that he should be looked into a little bit more, mainly because the people that I work with only feel threatened by people who have either abused them, threatened them, or loot absolutly terrifying, and since he is the principle of a school, he has a certain dress edicate to stick to so I think we can safely say its not that he looks terrifying. Now if it had been anyone who wet their pants, not just a special education 12 year old, even a completely normal, no problem at all 12 year old going to school, they could have wet there pants. Now for everyone who was a child, and not every child wet their pants but for those of you who did, why did you, was it fear by any chance, did you laugh to hard, were you just holding it in to long and lost control, did ANY of you ever do it on purpose, I think not, so now lets think about this girls situation, there are people (probably) surounding her, a person they fear walks in and is telling them to do something they dont want to do, so I think one of the last things on her mind would be holding it in, and depending on her handicap, well, I think you can figure out what I am trying to say, this is getting drawn out and long.

posted on Jan, 5 2007 @ 05:16 PM
Mea culpa closettrekkie - I used politically incorrect language and made an assumption too.

My apologies.

I foolishly got carried away with my flabbergasted astonishment about this situation.

Whatever extenuating circumstances there may be, and whatever details we may never know - I sincerely hope the parents of this girl sue the pants off that so-called "educator" and the school board fires his ass.

posted on Jan, 5 2007 @ 06:44 PM
Obviously the Principal, like a vast majority of people, doesn't have the patience and mental strength to deal with the hadicapped. While the principal overreacted and caused a ruckus probably due to his own frustration, the mental operating level of the child should have been considered before calling the police.

Now when it comes to urinating on something, I know that I am waiting for a couple of people to crawl into the grave so I can do naked happy dance and pee on their graves.

posted on Jan, 5 2007 @ 06:45 PM
back about 10+ years ago when i was about this age i remember somebody peeing in the classrom corner because the teacher would not let them leave to go to the toilet.

i really think there is probably more here than meets the eye.

if this person is not mentally retarded this could have been done on purpose a 12 year old is certainly capable of spite.

if the student is indeed mentally retarded the school needs a serious look into policy and the school administration should be ashamed.

without more information one can only speculate i guess.

posted on Jan, 5 2007 @ 07:24 PM
Well i work with a boy who cannot control his bowel. I think calling the police after he craps himself when hes scared or too excited would be the stupidest thing ever. If the judge has any sensitivity he will dismiss the case.

edit: i read the other posts and they did dismiss it. good!

[edit on 5-1-2007 by lizziex3]

posted on Jan, 5 2007 @ 08:40 PM
[edit on 5-1-2007 by In nothing we trust]

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