Islam, a religion of terror or ?

A question......In the news I've seen some Muslims say their religion is one of peace. So why don't the elders or leaders step in and stop this madness of killing each other?
I know this has been an on going thing for years and years, but it is crazy.
Cutting another persons head off with a knife or saw by hand has got to be the worse. Such brutality....

Maybe they haven't stepped in to say anything because it's not a religion of peace? Just a guess.

Originally posted by NowAmFound
Maybe they haven't stepped in to say anything because it's not a religion of peace? Just a guess.

or maybe they have
and it just doesn't get any publicity
honestly, most muslims condemn the actions of terrorists
but which do you think gets more press:

20 carbombings in iraq
or 200,000 speeches in the USA?

obviously, it's the carbombers that get the attention because it's flashy and sells

Originally posted by madnessinmysoul

Originally posted by NowAmFound
Maybe they haven't stepped in to say anything because it's not a religion of peace? Just a guess.

or maybe they have
and it just doesn't get any publicity
honestly, most muslims condemn the actions of terrorists
but which do you think gets more press:

20 carbombings in iraq
or 200,000 speeches in the USA?

obviously, it's the carbombers that get the attention because it's flashy and sells

Oh poo, now I find myself agreeing with madnessinmysoul. You hit it on the nail head. The extremist get the press just like the news. Good news rarely sees the light of day but bad news goes to the front of the line. Good point madnessinmysoul. Good news =

Islam gets bad press because the most horrible terror seem to come from people that follow the Islamic beliefs but that doesn't mean that all Muslims are terrorist. I can see where people who watch the mainstream news could get that idea though. I don't know for a fact but I would bet that 99.9999 percent of Muslims are hating the image presented of their religion in most outlets.....

The Koran condones violence. It calls for it.

Originally posted by NowAmFound
The Koran condones violence. It calls for it.

um, specific examples, please?

i know that they are there
just like the bible has many examples where it condones horrible acts of violence (hell, god even calls for genocide against the canaanites)

my point is, the violence condoned in religious texts isn't taken seriously by regular people

Sure, I'll get you examples.
Remember, Christ never condoned violence.
Your point is that a few "bad" muslims don't make Islam a violent religion, but a few "bad" Christians make Christianity a violent religion.
My point is that Islam is a violent religion.

Originally posted by madnessinmysoul
honestly, most muslims condemn the actions of terrorists
but which do you think gets more press:

20 carbombings in iraq
or 200,000 speeches in the USA?

obviously, it's the carbombers that get the attention because it's flashy and sells

I've got to say I agree on that point too, not many items of news are good, at least not ones that make headlines.

But there were still large protests against those cartoons last year, amongst which was probably a large number of what, until that point, was thought of a moderate community. Although they had a fair reason in that case some would argue.

Originally posted by madnessinmysoul

or maybe they have
and it just doesn't get any publicity
honestly, most muslims condemn the actions of terrorists
but which do you think gets more press:

20 carbombings in iraq
or 200,000 speeches in the USA?

obviously, it's the carbombers that get the attention because it's flashy and sells

200,000 speaches?

If there were that many them, or just a fraction thereof, I am sure I would have heard one of them. But as of yet, I have yet to hear a single one.

I also have serious doubts that most muslims condemn the actions of terrorists.

Originally posted by merky

A question......In the news I've seen some Muslims say their religion is one of peace. So why don't the elders or leaders step in and stop this madness of killing each other?
I know this has been an on going thing for years and years, but it is crazy.
Cutting another persons head off with a knife or saw by hand has got to be the worse. Such brutality....

there is a sticky at the top of this section feel free to read it

Originally posted by Classified Info
200,000 speaches?

If there were that many them, or just a fraction thereof, I am sure I would have heard one of them. But as of yet, I have yet to hear a single one.

I also have serious doubts that most muslims condemn the actions of terrorists.

well, if you go to the average american mosque, you'll probably hear a speech against terrorist actions

how do i know?
well, when i was trying to find my religion (i ended up an atheist) i actually tried out islam and visited a mosque

so, you doubt that a the majority population of 1.8 billion condemns the actions of at most a couple of million?

question for you
can you back up that stereotype of the mulsim population?

If your not Muslim, then your a infidel. Which means you do not acknowledge their God.
Is that not segregation? Freedom of religion and respect for anothers right
to believe they way they want.
The same old story.....religious intolerance, will never change.

Originally posted by merky

If your not Muslim, then your a infidel. Which means you do not acknowledge their God.
Is that not segregation? Freedom of religion and respect for anothers right
to believe they way they want.
The same old story.....religious intolerance, will never change.

The exact same can be said about Christianity, if you don't believe in there God your going to hell. Many other religions are all the same.

Originally posted by merky

If your not Muslim, then your a infidel. Which means you do not acknowledge their God.
Is that not segregation? Freedom of religion and respect for anothers right
to believe they way they want.
The same old story.....religious intolerance, will never change.

actually, the majority of muslims view jews and christians as "people of the book"
worshippers of the same god
not infidels
sure, there are many who don't
but those are a small fraction of total muslims

but, merky, i get your point
religions always breed intolerant sects
even if the majority is fairly tolerant

Originally posted by madnessinmysoul

actually, the majority of muslims view jews and christians as "people of the book"
worshippers of the same god
not infidels

precisely, but many people overlook the fact that (supposedly) Christians and Jews aren't valid targets. It is an interesting point though to present, and one which it seems they overlook in Iraq and in Al Qaeda etc.

However it does denounce paganism and Polytheism, taken in the modern day to mean Hinduism, even if it wasn't meant to originally (although it probably would be).

For those of who are confused about the difference between Christianity and Islam relating to violence:

answering-islam.org...

Originally posted by NowAmFound
For those of who are confused about the difference between Christianity and Islam relating to violence:

answering-islam.org...

well, i'd go with a source that is obviously less biased against islam

how about an atheist group?
they're equally biased against all religion, right?

dwindling in unbelief compares the violent nature of both the bible and the koran in THIS article

my point is that if islam is a religion of terror so is christianity
they are both based on violence

[edit on 1/17/07 by madnessinmysoul]

madnessinmysoul, are you making the assertion that Christianity is based on violence?

Originally posted by TurningOverFriday
madnessinmysoul, are you making the assertion that Christianity is based on violence?

yes and no
i'm saying that islam is no more based on violence than christianity

i can hand you a summary of violence in the bible right here
Long List of Violent Passages in the Bible

then again, the koran is also violent
koranic violence

so is the book of mormon
violence in the book of mormon