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reply posted on 13-6-2008 @ 11:10 PM by plumranch
reply to post by Astyanax



I'm sure we will never know whether someone cooled their jets but:

I still am not convinced that the first and second laws of thermodynamics are LAWS.

I doubt that we will be able to live on our coal, oil and other reserves forever.

As fuel reserves deplete it will be very difficult indeed for mankind to maintain itself by alternative energy sources such as wind and solar. Many will not be able to survive. (I'm an alternative energy practicioner myself)

A convincing case can be made that somewhere in our future we will be using free energy, zero point energy, whatever you want to call it.

What are your thoughts?




reply posted on 14-6-2008 @ 01:04 PM by plumranch
reply to post by Astyanax




Still, I wouldn't worry about running out of energy.


Nor do I. The problem is high energy prices and shortages. These may not impact our lives much but people pushing the poverty level may eventually have dire consequences. Real suffering may result.

I once took a graduate level series of physical chemistry courses. In it we studied quantum physics. What occurs at the orbital levels in the atom looks very much like well, perpetual motion.

Here's what John Ecklin said about it: "It is amazing that in the sub-micro world of the atom, quantum physics requires the perpetual motion of particles both as to spin and orbital motions. In the macro world, science is based on the law that a perpetual motion machine is absolutely impossible. This is the state of today's science?"

In other words the particles were spinning around that atom of gold in the pharaoh's tomb in 2000 BC. And they are still spinning the same speed today. What do you suppose is maintaining their spin? If you can answer that question then you may be able to understand ZPE.
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