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Illegal Migrants Will Now Use High Tech GPS Devices Thanks To The Mexican Government

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posted on Jan, 2 2007 @ 01:04 PM
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Illegal migrants, who want to cross the Northern Border of Mexico into the U.S., will be given handheld GPS devices according to Jaime Obregon, Coordinator for the State Commission for Migrants in the Mexican State of Puebla.. "Our intention is to save lives, "Jaime Obregon, coordinator for the state commission for migrants in Puebla, the Mexican state behind the project, told the London Telegraph. Authorities in Mexico are predicting that approximately 200,000 devices will be handed out when the project is launched this year.
 



www.telegraph.co.uk
Illegal immigrants planning to cross the desert and enter the US on foot are to be given hand-held satellite devices by the Mexican authorities to ensure they arrive safely.

Those who get lost or fall sick during the dangerous four-day crossing will be able to activate the device, to alert frontier police on both sides of the border.

The satellite tracking service will require would-be illegals to register their intentions before setting off — a paradoxical move, given that secrecy is necessary for success — but Mexican authorities are predicting that about 200,000 devices will be handed out when the project is launched formally in the coming year.

"Our intention is to save lives," said Jaime Obregon, the co-ordinator for the state commission for migrants in Puebla, the Mexican state which is behind the project. "There are lots of people looking to cross and we are working with the US authorities to make sure they do not die on the way."



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First it was handing out comic books to aid the illegal's and now they are going to use our own GPS satellites to aid them :shk: Kind of makes you wonder what comes next; hidden airfields where secretly chartered aircraft can land?

This is very disturbing news when you consider recent rumors that have stated some members of the house and senate want to hand out blanket amnesty to all those all ready in our country and cut off the funding that was allocated to build a new fence along the border isn't it?

It is just a guess on my part, but I assume that is perhaps what gave them the idea to hand these devices out so they could increase their numbers even further once those already here are made legal.

How our government officals can allow another country to openly conspire against the US is just down right stupid.


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posted on Jan, 2 2007 @ 01:58 PM
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I don't believe that you read this article properly. Its not a handheld Garmin GPS mapping device. Its a GPS locater. Like the ones people use that go skiing. It sends out a beacon. It doesn't show them the way in or out. Authorities would come and cart them away if activated.



posted on Jan, 2 2007 @ 02:00 PM
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Our government officials are too scared to approach this issue because it will lose them votes regardless of which way they go.

Our government could care less because illegals our government believes right or wrong that they make America money.

Corporate America loves illegal immigration because it helps to lower wages, worker's rights and worker's benefits due to an increased labor pool. Thus giving Corporate America greater control over the average American, it is a win win for the greatest country in the world and their corporate wing both who are indifferent to to working class in favor of greater stock prices.

This country is beginning to disgust me.



posted on Jan, 2 2007 @ 02:09 PM
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I have a dead horse you guys can have:

.I've been called every thing you can think of for speaking out against illegals.Illegal immigrants are the real terrorist.



posted on Jan, 2 2007 @ 02:30 PM
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First it was handing out comic books to aid the illegal's and now they are going to use our own GPS satellites to aid them :shk: Kind of makes you wonder what comes next; hidden airfields where secretly chartered aircraft can land?


It's not leading them into the US, it's only use is to provide their location if they are lost of become sick or whatever. It's hardly going to be used to lead them where they want to be... it'll only lead mexican or american officials to them. Doesn't sound like the way to get into the US to me.



posted on Jan, 2 2007 @ 02:51 PM
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Well that's kind of like giving gang bangers ammo so they don't run out and get hit by rival gangs. What the hell are they smoking over there??? Isn't that aiding a felony or something like that?



posted on Jan, 2 2007 @ 02:52 PM
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Originally posted by Low Orbit
Corporate America loves illegal immigration because it helps to lower wages, worker's rights and worker's benefits due to an increased labor pool. Thus giving Corporate America greater control over the average American, it is a win win for the greatest country in the world and their corporate wing both who are indifferent to to working class in favor of greater stock prices.

This country is beginning to disgust me.


This doesn't have to do with GPS's but have you been watching the news? Australian companies are taking over Toll roads in parts of america, China is one of our biggest suppliers of goods. Dell, Microsoft, AOL and a host of other US Corporations are outsourcing to India, Pakistan, Phillipines. Our prison system is being privatized by a company that has prisons in South Africa, USA, Great Britain, and Canada. If you live near a major port city look at all of the HUGE boats coming in HAN JIN, ZIM, LLoyds, or even look at the ports themselves not even run by US companies anymore.
Yet you would not like to keep labor rates down and keep OUR costs down that the consumer ends up paying? Would you rather get rid of immigrants being paid lower wages to pick fruits & vegetables and hire Union labor to pick fruit at 12.00 pr hr and end up paying 5.99 for a 1/2 gal of Orange Juice? Perhaps you will be happier when the American company is forced out of business when a South American company that is importing its juice into America at a lower cost? Maybe when you have to order your house online from China to be manufactured in China and put together here by 100% American laborers will you be happy? Look at old pictures of American cities being built and see if you can pick out who is immigrant and who is American...we needed cheap labor then and made it easy for them to come into the country and we need cheap labor now more then anytime in our past. We are being surpassed by countries we used to supply at one time. If you don't believe me...see if you can spot a label that says "Proudly Made In The USA" anymore.



posted on Jan, 2 2007 @ 02:57 PM
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I believe that I have " read the article correctly " , and my major objection to this is that it is an attempt to turn illegal immigration into a ` risk free jaunt ` , with very little to loose , and everything to gain

i believe that , the mexican authorities will , when the device is returned - along with its happless owner simplt reset the transonder , recharge the battery and let the would be migrant free within walking distance of the Rio Grande ,

ready for another attempt

that is unnaceptable .



posted on Jan, 2 2007 @ 04:25 PM
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Hey, all the more reason we should just hurry up the North American Union, and we will not have to worry about illegals as much. Not to mention it opens up a huge swath of land to be invested in by entrepeneurs. It also greatly reduces the border security stress we are facing by reducing it to almost one third the size now.

You know this is a nice thing though. I would prefer a life be saved and sent back than to allow them to die a horrible death in the desert. Those who disagree, well I can only guess you enjoy the thought of Mexican children rotting dead in a desert field, while their carcass is being ripped to shreds by a vulture or coyote. In fact, I am almost sure you wish it happened more often the way yall sound.



posted on Jan, 2 2007 @ 05:04 PM
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Well…a ‘locater beacon’ of sorts provided by the Mexican government as a safety mechanism for crossing into the United States is an added enticement to act.

If I needed help south of the border, the very last people I would want to count on is a Mexican government affiliated organization…more of a grave marker on southern side imo. On the US side of the border, perhaps it would cut down on unnecessary immigrant deaths…but so would enforcement of the laws already on the books.

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posted on Jan, 2 2007 @ 05:13 PM
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Good catch.




I think this is very sweet and responsible.



And it sure clarifies this administration's policy on illegal Mexican immigrants.



Corporate America would lose its position in the "free" world's "free" market without its illegal labor force.



Always good to know that Americans support solid values - like loyalty among thieves.




Thank you for this very funny news!

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posted on Jan, 2 2007 @ 07:55 PM
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Sofi if you were in the lower class you would think like I do, because the illegals are mainly low skilled workers. What is your job are you a lawyer, a banker, a cop, well if you really didn't have a problem with illegal immigration why don't we let them compete for all of our jobs including law enforcement and judgeships, aren't we being biased by just allowing them to compete for the poor jobs?

I'm sure they could be better cops, judges, politicians and lawyers than we currently have, and for half the cost to the government.

It is unfair that we have a glass ceiling for illegal immigration, the rich should have to pay for the illegal immigration in this country too.



posted on Jan, 2 2007 @ 08:02 PM
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Originally posted by Low Orbit
Sofi if you were in the lower class you would think like I do, ...

It is unfair that we have a glass ceiling for illegal immigration, the rich should have to pay for the illegal immigration in this country too.



Erm.

That's my point. Well, one of them.

I said, "it sure clarifies this administration's policy on illegal Mexican immigrants," and "Corporate America would lose its position in the "free" world's "free" market without its illegal labor force."

By this I mean that the Bush administration is helping international corporations and the wealthy in America walk all over ordinary people. Including illegal immigrants.


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posted on Jan, 2 2007 @ 08:15 PM
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Originally posted by Low Orbit
I'm sure they could be better cops, judges, politicians and lawyers than we currently have, and for half the cost to the government.

It is unfair that we have a glass ceiling for illegal immigration, the rich should have to pay for the illegal immigration in this country too.


While maybe the illegals themselves who come to this country may not be able to compete you can be sure their offspring born on American soil who become legal citizens of the the USA, who are afforded a better life and better education can and do compete and do hold the jobs that you mention after a generation or so.

Your idea of corporations "paying" will never come to fruition. It is always going to be "WE THE PEOPLE" who end up paying for it. If they need to hire workers getting higher wages they will pass that cost onto us. Did you not notice when gasoline prices went up, airlines and UPS/FEDEX as well as other industries all added surcharges to their fees?Post 9-11 all the extra security was all passed onto "WE THE PEOPLE" via security surcharges. Do you think wage hikes will be absorbed by the corporations?



posted on Jan, 2 2007 @ 08:29 PM
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GPS tracking already is a big part of our lives - even though we may not know it.

Here's a basic overview of how the technology is being used - not a revealing expose, but worth a scan.




GPS surveillance

...nowadays investigators place GPS receivers into "purses, knapsacks, gym bags, golf bags, and of course, into vehicles," in order to track the person in question.

GPS-based technology has also been added to other types of employee surveillance already being used in Canadian workplaces — keystroke, e-mail and phone call monitoring, along with video cameras and tracking with identification cards, just to name a few.

More and more businesses with decentralized workforces in areas such as building contractors, facility management, towing, telecom services and waste management are turning to wireless location-based fleet management services.




posted on Jan, 2 2007 @ 08:33 PM
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Originally posted by Low Orbit
I'm sure they could be better cops, judges, politicians and lawyers than we currently have, and for half the cost to the government.


That is impossible given the fact the majority of them do not even have a high school education let alone a college education which is required to be a lawyer. I am not sure but think you could enter a police academy with only a HS diploma.

And last but not least they must be able to speak English fluently and let us not forget they must be legal citizens of the US to hold those jobs.



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posted on Jan, 2 2007 @ 08:40 PM
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Originally posted by soficrow
GPS tracking already is a big part of our lives - even though we may not know it.

Here's a basic overview of how the technology is being used - not a revealing expose, but worth a scan.


Rent-a-cars (Rental car companies now fine drivers for speeding), Passenger cars Buses, and trucks all have GPS tracking. Some cars even have accident recorders (Black Boxes) that tell speed, brakes, as well as other info prior to impact, but these are all different as they are involuntary and the gps devices being given to the border jumpers are voluntarily activated in the event of an emergency situation where the "guide" has abandoned them or they have gotten lost.

This is intended for the thread:
Just because these people are looking to make a better life for themselves even though it is illegal does not constitute that we should want to see them dead or injured. The crime does not call for a death sentence. If its coming out of Mexicos pocket I don't see the big deal if it saves someones life.



posted on Jan, 2 2007 @ 08:46 PM
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I don't blame the Mexican government one bit. Money flows up in Mexico and the more workers they can get across the border the more money will be sent back home. The workers over here send billions back home and that money flows right into the pockets of the elite as it gets spent. It looks compassionate and caring while insuring that your cash cow doesn't die on its way to market. It's actually pretty darn smart.

I agree that its a good idea. The thought of people dying in the desert is sickening when all they will have to do is push a button and the worst that will happen is they will be deported back to Mexico. No one should have to face a horrible death if it can be prevented by some simple technology.

The way I see it is this poor Mexican who has no education, can't speak english and is carrying everything he owns on his back is trying to make a better life for himself and his family. If he can take your job than bygolly the problem isn't with the Mexican, it's with you.

This is just my humble opinion,



posted on Jan, 2 2007 @ 08:57 PM
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So many here just don't get it.

No, we do not want these people to die. But that's not the real issue.

The point is - this administration WANTS to allow illegal immigration - it's a stepping stone to the North American Union.


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posted on Jan, 2 2007 @ 09:03 PM
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Originally posted by Ford Farmer
Well that's kind of like giving gang bangers ammo so they don't run out and get hit by rival gangs. What the hell are they smoking over there??? Isn't that aiding a felony or something like that?


It isn't activa GPS mapping ... it's more like a locator beacon. So it'd be more like giving a gang banger a cell phone so he can call an ambulance after he's been shot. Is death an appropriate punishment for an attempted immigration violation?

Anyways it's not aiding a felon because the Mexican government is not part of the US and therefore not subject to our laws or rules. It is not the Mexican governmentes responsibility to keep their people from violating US law ... that is the US governments responsibility.







 
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