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Topic started on 2-1-2007 @ 06:31 AM by 11Bravo
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After much speculation the facts have emerged.
Israel has Mossad in Iraq, supposedly just for 'training' kurds.
VIDEO LINK
Watch the Video and give me your thoughts please.
Should Israel be there?
Is it possible they are doing more than just 'training' personell?
I must admit, BBC rules.
They are far better then ANY main stream American media.
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reply posted on 2-1-2007 @ 08:15 AM by Dock6
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Israel / Mossad seems to be EVERYWHERE, don't they?
There they are, posing under Anglicised, benevolent-sounding titles, sponsoring people from the darkest Africa and transporting them under alleged
'humanitarian' agendas, to places such as small rural Australian and Scottish towns.
For WHOSE GOOD?
For WHOSE GOOD?
For WHOSE GOOD?
Many of these African and other folk are affected with HIV and full-blown AIDS.
So for WHOSE GOOD are they being shipped to largely white, close-knit communities?
For WHOSE GOOD were Israeli soldiers dressed like Palestinians, tossing rocks at Israeli jews ?
Then, when the fight had successfully been launched, those same Israeli servicemen and agents tore away their 'Palestinian' dress and dragged out
their guns and began shooting at and arresting innocent Palestinians while Israelis whined to the world about 'millitant Palestinians' causing
bloodshed !!!!
And for WHOSE GOOD ?
OF COURSE they're in Iraq !
Just as they were in Bali when the bomb killed 400 plus Aussies and others. Then the Mossad/Isrealis departed Bali in their own Lear jet, leaving
behind a paper-trail of falsified flight plans and other documents. (See in detail on The Truth Seeker website).
Isreali/Mossad agents were in New Zealand, falsifying passports, etc.
Israeli/Mossad have been witnessed tossing Aussie tourists off trains and boats, after which the IDs and passports of the murdered have been used by
other Israelis/Mossad in their ongoing agendas against --- apparently -- the entire world.
They were seen dancing and cheering as Americans jumped from the 93rd floor on 9/11.
There they were, cheering, rejoicing and spitting again, as settlers broke an aid-workers cheekbone with an empty bottle, with IDF troops standing
idly by.
Yes, they're everywhere, rejoicing in the death and suffering of others.
Individually, they claim to be 'just normal folks'. But as a group, they're pretty despicable, judging by their ongoing offences against humanity.
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reply posted on 2-1-2007 @ 01:40 PM by runetang
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 There they were, cheering, rejoicing and spitting again, as settlers broke an aid-workers cheekbone with an empty bottle, with IDF troops
standing idly by. 
Where was this? lol. So on 9/11 Jewish Settlers in Israel or West Bank or some such were cheering about America being attacked, then maimed an aid
worker?
you sure those werent Palestinians? lol.
were it not for america, israel would not currently exist as a country in all aspects. it wouldve never been recreated, it wouldve never been propped
up, maintained, supported with start of the art arms and tech, and nukes.
were it not for america, the arab nations would all attack israel right now, were it not for the nukes america helped them get and the fear of america
getting involved and bombing the crap out of their countries.
i just find that hard to believe.. america, particularly new york, has been a refuge for jews for decades and decades. i dont see why they'd be
cheering that some of the jewish people in those towers were dying innocently, if they themselves were jews.
man i swear, around here I hear it all.. there is no big brother, its a headless blunder operating under the illusion of a master plan.
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reply posted on 2-1-2007 @ 04:26 PM by 11Bravo
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Runetang, first of all, did you watch the video that this thread is about or are you here to 'lol' at anything Israeli related? I would appreciate
feedback on the VIDEO I posted proving that mossad was/is in Iraq.
Secondly, you seem to have strung together everything Dock said into one big event, when they were separate.
Thirdly, you show your utter ignorance of facts surrounding Israeli activity world wide.
Just for you here is a youtube clip of the 'dancing israelis' being interviewed. Dancing
Israelis
Yes, they were caught dancing on a rooftop in Manhatten as the twin towers burned, and as Dock mentioned, they danced and cheered as Americans jumped
to their death.
Care to watch that one before you giggle your way into another ignorant post?
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reply posted on 2-1-2007 @ 04:33 PM by Peyres
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yes, just as the Iranian, Syrians, Eqyptians, British, French, German's, Americans are in Iraq, so are the Jooooooos. Up to NO good of course,
planning to steal the eyes of muslims kids and them sell them to make more and more money
Before you try and attack any of the people who counter-attack your blatant anti-Israeli attitude, please try and provide proof and reasoning on
claims such as:
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"Israel / Mossad seems to be EVERYWHERE, don't they?
There they are, posing under Anglicised, benevolent-sounding titles, sponsoring people from the darkest Africa and transporting them under alleged
'humanitarian' agendas, to places such as small rural Australian and Scottish towns.
For WHOSE GOOD?
For WHOSE GOOD?
For WHOSE GOOD?
Many of these African and other folk are affected with HIV and full-blown AIDS.
So for WHOSE GOOD are they being shipped to largely white, close-knit communities?"
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reply posted on 2-1-2007 @ 04:39 PM by 11Bravo
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Pewrez, maybe you dont get it either.
Watch the video and comment on that, or get off my thread.
Simple enough?
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reply posted on 2-1-2007 @ 04:40 PM by Freedom ERP
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Without doubt Mossad are operating in Iraq just as I am sure they are operating in most Western countries.
Mossad is charged with protecting Israel, and remember that Israel did bomb a nuclear reactor in Iraq in the 1980s.
Of course Israel will want to influence what happens in Iraq and then just think of the country next to Iraq!!!!!!
And this is being done without the US being aware of??
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reply posted on 2-1-2007 @ 05:35 PM by Peyres
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Quad Bikes, Communication equipment.......oh the evilness.
yes, it is geo-political-strategic manovering. This is often done through private comapnies who may be friendly with the government, in order to do it
covertley (you know, so the enemy doesn't find out). Every nation on earth does it, that whats my point, as soon as the word 'Israel', or Mossad is
churned up, people raise their eyebrows in shock.
With all the Iranian rhetoric, do you not think it is wise to prepare for war?
Personally I do not think Israel is capable of a full out successful invasion of Iran.
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On another note, why is there nothing on these boards about Egypt supplying weapons to Palestinian militant groups, why is there nothing about Iran
meddling in Iraq?
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reply posted on 2-1-2007 @ 05:43 PM by Agit8dChop
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Yeah, we all knew America was in Iraq...
whoops, I mean Israel..... now wait I mean America....
christ I dunno what I mean, here I thought they were pretty much the same entity.
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reply posted on 2-1-2007 @ 07:43 PM by ThePieMaN
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Natanyahoo touted Iraq as a pre-emptive strike ..wasn't pre-emptive for us, so who was it pre-emptive for? Natanyahoo is 100% for Israel.
GW said that ANYONE NOT PARTICIPATING would not be eligible for any type of rebuilding or contracts. So does anyone remember any Israelis losing life
or limb in the war on terror in Iraq? I don't remember any Israelis shedding any blood..Americans died, Brits died, but I don't recollect any
Israelis dying. I see them over there with their hands in the cookie jar though, reaping the benefits as though they are contributors to the WOT ,
when in actuality they are the main force driving these attacks upon us. When are we going to wake up? The Israeli government is a farce, its a sham
and they are not to be trusted. If they say they will be doing an investigation, you can bet your bottom dollar that it won't. Liars and shiesters. I
would not be surprised that these guys were not in those videos where security contractors were going around Iraq inciting the civilians into killing
each other.
They have a lot of nerve aiding a people such as the Kurds to gain independence while meanwhile in their own country they murder and oppress another
race of people. Stay in your own country and fix your own problems before you go with you hands out begging for money on the backs of other peoples
sweat and blood! They have no right what so ever profiting from any part of Iraq.
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reply posted on 2-1-2007 @ 10:16 PM by missed_gear
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Originally posted by Peyres
Quad Bikes, Communication equipment.......oh the evilness.

lol…At face value, if I were in a position to hire needed, experienced trainers that have a good track record in airport security and anti terror
tactics, I would definitely consider professional Israeli trained instructors with-out much second thought
The complete conjecture created in the video about a “possible attack” on Iran, using the Kurdish region refueling/landing etc. and a proposed
Israeli flight plan is ill thought-out, unsubstantiated and added for a wanting audience.
Insertion of the above mentioned opinioned material is a purposeful distraction from the real fact the documentary provides zero evidence of direct
sanctioned Israeli government involvement, intent or benefit other than through pure innuendo.
Originally posted by ThePieMaN
They have a lot of nerve aiding a people such as the Kurds to gain independence while meanwhile in their own country they murder and oppress another
race of people. 
Yes…and perhaps if various aggressive and meddling Middle Eastern nations adhered to the premise of your position as well then there may actually be
a real substantiated complaint…
Btw, what “race” of people is being oppressed?
mg
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reply posted on 3-1-2007 @ 02:14 AM by ThePieMaN
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Originally posted by missed_gear
Insertion of the above mentioned opinioned material is a purposeful distraction from the real fact the documentary provides zero evidence of direct
sanctioned Israeli government involvement, intent or benefit other than through pure innuendo.

Yeah MG and I have a beautiful bridge just put on the market , its rarely been used and it has a nice view of the city. Of course the Government has
no idea and of course it will be investigated. Sure it will.
Yes…and perhaps if various aggressive and meddling Middle Eastern nations adhered to the premise of your position as well then there may actually be
a real substantiated complaint…

Ahh yes those pesky arabs are always scurrying about Spying on everyone! Always sending their turbanned artists to America to sell their portraits of
Mohammed at the good old Pentagon. Johnathan Ibn Abdul Pollard was absolutely one of the best known arab spies in history. Hassan Abramoff milked
America of millions of dollars and syphoned the money off to bedoiun goat herders in Kuwait. Yes those arabs always meddling in everyone elses
business. Israel is just as quiet as a churchmouse.
Btw, what “race” of people is being oppressed?
mg

Hmm lets see...
recently Russian Jews seeking asylum in Canada claimed of being harrassed in Israel and abuse
Sudanese people who were caught and arrested sneaking into the country were imprisoned and then released to work on a Kibbutz, requested to be placed
back in jail because they were being abused and treated like slaves.
Darfurians are being denied entry into Israel, and we all know how near and dear the Darfur conflict is to Israelis...I guess its near and dear as
long as they don't get to "near" Israel.
OH and I almost forgot the oppression of the Occupied state of palestine. How silly of me...they did after all kill a 12 year old kid just last week
for "getting too close to the apartheid wall"...err I mean security Fence!
President Jimmy Carter, Bishop Desmond Tutu, Nelson mandela all liken Israel with Apartheid. Even the ArchBishop of Canterbury remarked at the walls
of Bethlehem. I guess though they are all wrong and ignorant anti-semetic people though huh? Good ole Israel the shining light unto all nations.
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reply posted on 3-1-2007 @ 06:53 AM by cranialspunge
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ahhh, mossad, they are everywhere.
mossad's in the cuboard, they think no one knows
mossad's in the cuboard, blowin up the world
iraqi's gettin stranger, than they ever been
mossad musta been there. the u.s has told them
iran is a bigger threat, than iraq has ever been
mossad in the cuboard, blowin up tehran
the sheik is just a nuther geek, livin in the sand
the mossad are the only ones, who dominate this land
so lets all get together, and make this all go bad
lets all get the mossad, n f#@k em off our land
o it takes all kind of people, to make this world go round
lets just get them mossad freaks, and throw em off our land
was just listning to d.a.coe while reading this
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reply posted on 3-1-2007 @ 08:44 AM by reaper2
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Good subject matter
Is it possible they are doing more than just 'training' personell?

Well it seems there has been some speculation about mossad's intentions in Iraq for some time.
Please read ext below and review link.
 It is noted that most dentistry section professors have received letters of threat. The assassinations are linked to Israeli Mossad," Al Qaisi
said.
He claimed that that the Iraqi National Congress Party began abducting physicians and university professors after the US occupation, a time when
assassinations increased dramatically and that the party was backed by the Mossad.
Members in the National Congress Party refuted these allegations, saying that this is a Baathist, Arab Sunni campaign to distort the role of Ahmad
Chalabi in liberating Iraq from Saddam Hussain's regime.
But the questions now being asked by common Iraqis in the street and by politicians are whether Mossad really exists in Iraq and, if so, where its
operations centres are and which Iraqi parties are supporting it?
Omar Al Hajj, a professor at the University of Technology said: "Death squads accused of killing Iraqi professionals and scientists are the same
forces that invaded Iraq, looted its museums and stole its banks."
"They are also the same parties, which, abduct businessmen and foreigners for high ransoms."
Golf News
 Most important of Israel's major intelligence agencies. The Mossad carries out foreign espionage and covert political and paramilitary
operations. Its director reports directly to the prime minister. It has enjoyed considerable success in operations against the country's Arab
neighbours and Palestinian organizations, and it has an excellent reputation internationally for its effectiveness. Its secret agents are credited
with the apprehension of Adolf Eichmann in Argentina, the execution of the killers of Israeli athletes at the 1972 Olympics, and the rescue of Israeli
hostages in the Entebbe incident. In the late 20th and early 21st centuries, the Mossad was criticized for its treatment of detainees, many of whom
were allegedly tortured and killed while in custody, and for its efforts to assassinate some Palestinian political leaders.
Britannica concise encyclopidia
Please note the part where it says above The Mossad carries out foreign espionage and covert political and paramilitary operations. It has
enjoyed considerable success in operations against the country's Arab neighbours and Palestinian organizations
With the above in mind it is only logical that Mossad are in Iraq and everywhere else for that matter, as they are only doing thier job as they always
have done.
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reply posted on 3-1-2007 @ 10:34 AM by missed_gear
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Ahh yes…I forgot…too poor to feed their people, victims etc… the arms in the region just grow themselves…oh wait!...it is the Israeli’s that
have provided all the arms and the idiots take them right? The Palestinians could never be a tool for neighboring nations or terrorist groups to wage
conflict by proxy...that's not good PR.
Originally posted by ThePieMaN
Hmm lets see...
recently Russian Jews seeking asylum in Canada claimed of being harrassed in Israel and abuse 
First, Russian Jews are not a definitive race.
Second, from what I have read (outside Ha’aretz of course), these complaints are centered on certain children and what the complaints consist of are
the same complaints immigrant children around the world have assimilating in to schools and the like.
Originally posted by ThePieMaN
Sudanese people who were caught and arrested sneaking into the country were imprisoned and then released to work on a Kibbutz, requested to be placed
back in jail because they were being abused and treated like slaves. 
You must have forgotten that these refugees (not a race) first sought refuge in Egypt and were murdered en masse when the Egyptian riot police
broke-up the refugee camps…when the refugees protested in Egypt even more were murdered by police and 2500+ were detained… Saudi Arabia also
rounded-up their refugees…. (shh...don't want to mention that)...oh, and a few did sneak into Israel (afterwards)…not a good idea.
Furthermore, UNCHR reports these ‘detainees’ made their way to collective farms in Israel after being held in the low security facilities of
Maasiyahu. Israel is holding them and refusing to send them back to the Sudan (where they will be executed). Israel has engaged the UN concerning
these individuals and further placement.
Complaits about possible abuses (true or not) only speed-up the process of relocation...and why work btw, when one can get three squares daily while
waiting to relocate?
Originally posted by ThePieMaN
OH and I almost forgot the oppression of the Occupied state of palestine. How silly of me...they did after all kill a 12 year old kid just last week
for "getting too close to the apartheid wall"...err I mean security Fence! 
And to the rest….Which brings me full around back to my point…why was the wall built again? And what have the neighboring nations
provided…other than arms and the entire reason to occupy the territories in the first place…
An of course, neighboring nations would never use the poor Palestinian people for conflict by proxy, provide arms, support militant groups and
train leadership…all the while cry about humanitarian abuses…would they?
Originally posted by reaper2
Please note the part where it says above The Mossad carries out foreign espionage and covert political and paramilitary operations. It has
enjoyed considerable success in operations against the country's Arab neighbours and Palestinian organizations 
Exactly the same can be said of the “Arab neighbors” and “Palestinian organizations” concerning Israel. It also stands to make the same
logical sense all of the ME neighbors are in Iraq as well…yes?
mg
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reply posted on 3-1-2007 @ 10:46 AM by reaper2
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Originally posted by reaper2
Please note the part where it says above The Mossad carries out foreign espionage and covert political and paramilitary operations. It has
enjoyed considerable success in operations against the country's Arab neighbours and Palestinian organizations 
Exactly the same can be said of the “Arab neighbors” and “Palestinian organizations” concerning Israel. It also stands to make the same
logical sense all of the ME neighbors are in Iraq as well…yes?
mg

Yes i concur not only the ME but most of the worlds elite intelligence personal are either in iraq was there or will be there soon.
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reply posted on 3-1-2007 @ 08:53 PM by ThePieMaN
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MG
As usual Israel does no wrong. Its a shame but for as long as people enable Israel to do these things and to continually attempt to decieve people ,
Israel will always be at war. Its when people cease attempting to decieve and like a drug addict , allowed to hit rock bottom will there ever be
peace. You can give every excuse and deny this or deny that, but its there on film, and it was there in Print in the Jerusalem Post and other Israeli
news papers. No this is not the first post about this, nor was this the first news piece about this. You can keep covering up but I can tell you at
this point people tire from all these lies. There is no way that I can believe you over people like Tutu or Mandela who have LIVED the life of
Apartheid and have witnessed it first hand.
Anyway getting back to topic. Israel has no business in Iraq , didn't participate and is not entitled to any benefits or contracts. Just like France
was told when it didn't join the Coalition of The Willing. You can stick up for a nation that rides off the backs of Americans lives, but I stick
with America first.
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reply posted on 4-1-2007 @ 04:41 PM by Peyres
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Israel is doing wrong, just as everyone else in the Middle East, and indeed the U.S and the UK are. Israel always seems to be singled out
BBC Newsnight have just run a documentary on Iranian intelligence officers being arrested in Iraq. I still haven't seen a thread on it yet, hmmm.
Just thought I'd post a link to a map comparing Israel (and the 'palestinian territories) to the 'arab world'
You can really see how zionism is a huge threat to the globe.
Clicky
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reply posted on 5-1-2007 @ 02:33 AM by ThePieMaN
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What singled out are you talking about? What general or security resolution
has Israel abided by? LOL What sanctions are on israel? Are you trying to get sympathy for israel when no sympathy is deserved? Thats just typical and
so very laughable. Singled out is just absurd. Nothing has ever happened to Israel by way of sanction , embargo or otherwise so what are you talking
about?!
IF Israel was ever sanctioned or embargo'd when other countries were not, then you would have my sympathy, but as you said they are doing wrong
just like everyone else is in the Middle East and all I see is Iran getting punished, Syria getting assets frozen, Lebanon getting bombarded,
Hamas being blackballed internationally. So pray tell what type of punishment has Israel had to endure from an international body of any type that
your claim of being singled out has any merit?
As far as the land mass of Arab countries go, what does that have to do with ANYTHING? Just because Israel is small doesn't mean a thing. Zionists
are spread out everywhere in almost every facet of every countries governments. I have no clue how about 2% of the worlds religion/population has so
much control coming out of one small little country, but they do. I for one am glad that Security clearances were taken away from Dual Citizen
Israelis working for the DOD. Its about time their allegiances were questioned and scrutinized. No foreign government should have any carte blanche
within our defenses. Israel needs to stay within its borders, maybe then it won't find so many problems at its doorstep. Stick your hands in the fire
enough times and you will get burned.
Mod Edit: Big Quote – Please Review This Link.
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reply posted on 7-1-2007 @ 01:01 PM by Peyres
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Pieman.
Please Explain to everyone how Zionism is such a global threat? I honestly can't see how having a tiny little country to house Jews without
persecusion (from all religions and nations) is an evil ideology. Yes, maybe the zionists are trying to get influence in areas of mass influence to
acheive this goal. But I can't see how that is a global threat. They have done questionable things to try and maintain their dream, granted, but try
and put things into perspective.
And why is the invasion of Israel by Five Arab states just buried under the sand?
The arab nations hate having a democratic (well it used to be, but due to the circumstances it can't really continue in that manner, prosperous,
JEWISH society right next door to them. That is why. Look at the map, who is trying to dominate the region? Who invaded Israel in the first place? Who
then lost the land in the war and then complained about occupation and imperialism.
Which nations continue to create, finance support and propagate bigoted, twisted lies about Jews and Christians in order to create generations of
soldiers to kill innocent civilians in Israel? Hmmm
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