strange storie about sadam and ufos

President Bush decided to attack Iraq because he was scared Saddam Hussein would use technology from a crashed alien spaceship, UFO watchers claim.


But the dictator doesn't want "Dubya" getting his hands on the space-age technology, says a professed Kiwi UFO expert.

He and his fellow space-case managers say a UFO crashed in Iraq in 1998.

Top American secret agents have been worried since then that Iraqi president Saddam would break it down to find out how to build his own spaceship and weapons, they claim.

Wellington UFO believer Bre said President Bush wouldn't be told about the spacecraft.

"Normally the president of the USA doesn't have a security clearance high enough to be in the know about all the Black Operations projects.

"You have to have MK Ultra clearance, before you are given access to such things as reverse engineering alien technology," Bre said.

George Dubya's father George Bush senior - who was president during the last Gulf war in 1991 - was a former head of the CIA.

Apparently he told his son.

And somehow Bre - who doesn't have a last name - has found out about the UFO conspiracy.

"Bush senior was privy to info that he wouldn't normally have access to," Bre told Truth.

The Americans should be careful in case Saddam already had alien weapons technology, Bre said.

"I imagine Saddam would delight in knocking the USA's airforce out of his skies," he said.

He forwarded Truth an email from an American UFO watcher.

She claimed President Clinton almost attacked Iraq in 1998 after Saddam threw out United Nations weapons inspectors.

But Clinton decided against it at the last minute.

He was scared Saddam already had alien technology, she claimed.

Bron: www.stuff.co.nz...

I don't know how much stock I put in that story, but I've wondered the same thing.

The Isreali Air Force is visibly among the 'most spooked' area of the skies, yet they are as tight lipped as their brother in arms - USA about this widely known secret.

Somebody/Something picks it's 'enemies' for a reason.

We won't be 'capturing' Saddam IMO. His WMD is some truth, some blackmail...whether it's UFO's or other covert US ops.

Here are some other links to this story - if I'm not mistakened Pravda came out with this story first~

english.pravda.ru...

www.ufoinfo.com...

www.cosmictribune.com...

~Nice links Intelgurl. Btw, isn't your avatar pic from FFX-2 or something of that sort?

MarkLiutzen:

While I can't remark on the veracity of the Post about
the crash of a UFO in Iraq and the fear that Saddam might be able to "reverse-engineer" the UFO for his use
I just don't have any information about it.

However I can remark about your statement that the U.S. President might not have a high enough security clearance to allow him to have such information disclosed to him. Strangely, that can be true, each person that handles classified materials is assigned a security clearance that is just "high" enough to permit them to do their job. As/if their job changes their security clearance is adjusted to accomodate their new job. So a U.S. President might have a "gap" that technically could block their access to such information.

In my opinion only classifacation of "Top Secret -Codeword " and Top Secret- EYES ONLY would fall into that catagory.


Keep Up the Good Work; USAFSS-SP

I don't think this story has any truth to it. Since 1947 people can and have claimed that war is secretly started as a result of an alien crash and fear of successful attempts at reverse engineering. The reasons of the PNAC agenda, oil, and oil currency are far better and more sound reasons for the invasion of Iraq.

As it stands, this UFO story has zero evidence for it. Just unknown sources giving vague answers. Its as bad as all the unnamed sources claiming terrorist ties and WMD in Iraq and nobody believes that junk either.

All we do have is people claiming to see a UFO on CNN. Not much to go on.

[Edited on 11-12-2003 by heelstone]

Originally posted by Jeffrey
~Nice links Intelgurl. Btw, isn't your avatar pic from FFX-2 or something of that sort?

I think it is as a matter of fact... one of the 7 avatars i bounce between....

Would like to add a finding to this thread:

MUFONET COMMUNICATIONS GROUP

ASTRONET BBS NETWORK - MUFONET BBS NETWORK


The following is from Compu$erve; no basis as far as factual.


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Title : DESERT STORM UFO ALLEGEDLY SHOT DOWN
Keywords: UFO MILITARY DESERT STORM CRASH

THIS ITEM WAS POSTED ON AN AMATEUR RADIO PACKET BBS ON JUNE 13 BY A
UK HAM FOR WORLD WIDE CONSUMPTION. I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THE UK HAM OR
THE TRUTH OF THE STORY WHICH INVOLVES RECOVERY OF A UFO SHOT DOWN BY
F16s OVER SAUDI DURING A RAID ON BAGDAD. ENJOY.
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_ F6ABJ!FF6KIF!MODEM!
!GB7LWB!GB7BIL!GB7RUT!GB7AYI!GB7BAD!GB7WRG!GB7YAX!GB7CHS!GB7CRG!

Operation Desert Storm 2nd UFO shot down.

A HIGH LEVEL SOURCE HAS REVEALED THAT AN AMERICAN AIR FORCE F16 GUNNED
DOWN A UFO OVER SAUDI ARABIA DURING DESERT STORM AND FIVE NATIONS ARE
TRYING TO COVER UP THE ENCOUNTER. I DON'T KNOW ALL THE DETAILS BUT I'M
SURE THAT WHEN THI ANY KNOWN AIRCRAFT, HE SAYS. THE SAUDIS WITH ME
WERE SO FRIGHTENED THAT THEY ASKED AMERICAN, BRITISH AND FRENCH
INVESTIGATORS TO COME TO THE CRASH SITE IMMEDIATELY. THE COLONEL SAYS
HE WAS VISITING IN RIYADH AT THE TIME AND THAT HE AND A SMALL RUSSIAN
TEAM WERE ABLE TO INSPECT THE WRECKAGE BEFORE AMERICAN FORCES FROM
DESERT STORM ARRIVED. THE CRAFT WAS CIRCULAR AND MADE OF A MATERIAL
I'VE NEVER SEEN BEFORE, HE SAYS. ABOUT A THIRD OF IT SEEMED TO BE
MISSING POSSIBLE BLOWN AWAY BY THE AMERICAN MISSILES. THE SAUDIS
WOULDN'T LET US TOUCH ANYTHING, BUT WE SAW INSTRUMENTS, MACHINERY AND
OTHER THINGS THAT COMPLETELY BAFFLED US. HE SAYS THE MARKINGS ON
INSTRUMENT PANELS AND DIALS WERE NOT IN ANY LANG- UAGE HE WAS FAMILIAR
WITH. IT SEEMED TO BE A RELATIVELY SMALL CRAFT, MAYBE 15 FEET ACROSS,
HE SAYS. THERE WERE THREE CHAIRS, PROBABLY FOR CREW MEMBERS, BUT THEY
WERE SO SMALL THEY SEEMED TO HAVE BEEN MADE FOR CHILDREN. EVIDENTLY
SPACE ALIENS ARE ONLY ABOUT THREE FEET TALL. MOST AMAZING, THOUGH, IS
THE FACT THAT THERE WERE NO BODIES AT THE CRASH SITE NOR DID THERE
APPEAR TO BE AN ENGINE IN THE CRAFT. THE AMERICAN MISSILES MAY HAVE
SCORED A DIRECT HIT ON THE ENGINE, CAUSING IT TO DISINTEGRATE, HE
SAYS. BUT I CHECKED WITH THE SAUDI RADAR TECHNICIANS AND THEY CLAIM
THEIR INSTRUMENTS DIDN'T SHOW ANYONE EJECTING OR BAILING OUT FROM THE
CRAFT. SEARCH HELICOPTERS WERE ALL OVER THE AREA, WHICH IS A DESERT,
AND THEY DID NOT SPOT ANY SURVIVORS IN THE VICINITY OF THE CRASH.
DURING INTERVIEWS WITH THE RADAR TECHNICIANS, PETROKOV WAS TOLD THAT
THE BLIP IDEN- TIFIED AS THE UFO APPEARED OUT OF NOWHERE AS FOUR F16S
WERE STREAKING TOWARD BAGHDAD. ONE OF THE AMERICAN PLANES BROKE FROM
FORMATION AND HEADED FOR THE UFO, HE SAYS. THE ALIEN CRAFT STARTED
STARTED MOVING SOUTHWEST, AWAY FROM THE F16, AND THE AMERICAN PILOT
GAVE CHASE. WHEN THE F16 WAS WITHIN THREE MILES, THE ALIEN CRAFT
SEEMED TO FIRE SOMETHING AT THE PLANE BUT MISSED. THE AMERICAN THEN
FIRED TWO MISSILES. BOTH HIT THE SAUCER. THERE WAS A TERIFIC
EXPLOSING, AND THEN THE CRASH. WHEN AMERICAN INVESTIGATORS ARRIVED,
PETROKOV SAYS, HE AND HIS TEAM WERE IMMEDIATELY ORDERED OUT OF THE
AREA AND FLOWN BACK TO RIYADH. THERE WERE THINGS THEY DIDN'T WANT US
TO SEE-MORE, I THINK, THAN THE FACT THAT THE CRAFT WAS CIRCULAR, THAT
THERE WERE NO SURVIVORS AND THAT IT WAS MADE OF A FOREIGN SUBSTANCE,
HE SAYS. PETROKOV SAYS MEMBERS OF HIS TEAM WERE ABLE TO SNEAK PICTURES
WITHOUT THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE SAUDIS OR AMERICANS, BUT HE WAS ORDERED
TO TURN THEM OVER TO RUSSIAN AUTHORITIES THE NEXT DAY. PETROKOV SAYS
AMERICAN ARMY ENGINEERS GATHERED UP ALL DEBRIS AND CARTED IT AWAY FOR
SHIPMENT TO THE U.S.

PETROKOV SAYS MEMBERS OF HIS TEAM WERE ABLE TO SNEAK PICTURES
WITHOUT THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE SAUDIS OR AMERICANS, BUT HE WAS ORDERED
TO TURN THEM OVER TO RUSSIAN AUTHORITIES THE NEXT DAY.

How very convenient