Finally saw my first ufo / alien

Originally posted by hiii_98
i voted for you AgainstSecrecy because of your objective analysis of the evidence. I will continue to upload the rest of the videos later this evening. I'm amazed you took the time to do this, and whatever the conclusions I'm interested to see what you uncover. (i dont know why but i really have NOT devled deeping into the videos ... i have a extremely short attention span) The 3/4 of them are uploaded , i hope to add to the story with the others. Also do you have any comments or conclusions of the audio portion of the videos? In other words are we acting?... did you hear any alien or military vechicles...voices?... Do you think this is a real event or a hoax? (its definatly NOT but i'm curious)

First of all thanks for your favorable voting

To the audio: Well, it sounds like you and your girfriend are very excited about your sighting. But that's normal if you encounter something like that. I don't hear anything abnormal. But what i'd like to ask is the following. In some videos i hear some sort of noise, like wind blowing into the microphone of the cam. Is that the case? wind blowing into the cam's mic while you drive? (i.e open the window of the car to catch the ufo with the cam).
On one video you both sounded scared (i think it was on asf_0034).

I didn't hear any abnormal voices but some sort of cars or trucks are passing by (sounds like that) and in one video your girlfriend says something, but it sounds too weird and i couldn't understand it. And i guess the thing about the numbers your girlfriend repeated twice has already been discussed (i think she was speaking about a time...according to what already has been discussed here). If that wasn't the case then i'm clueless what to make out of it.

To my thoughts about hoax or not: I think it's not a hoax. I'm convinced that this is real. The way you both are acting, speaking, the camera movement...a hoaxer wouldn't put so much time and effort into hoaxing. On top of that: A hoaxer would produce clear vids and pics to convince everybody.

I've encountered many weird things myself, so i know that everything is possible. Just because it can't be proofed in a scientific way, doesn't mean that it doesn't exist or is impossible. It's the same with religions: Nobody can proof that there's a god, but yet most people are convinced that there's one, even if it is not proven.

Keep going hii

Originally posted by Southpaw11


Hiii

Did you review those questions I left above?

Your ADD/attention span thing. It's common among abductees. It's a potential "side effect" of being "programmed".

Check out that list if you've not. From your writing in here, I've already noted a few "red flags".

The "sighting" is definitely real. The shadow people around the car were real. The truckers really would not have woken up... THAT must have been shocking to you...

What about the following for you and your g/f?

parents have sightings/experiences?
grandparents?
greatgrandparents?
aunts and uncles?
cousins?
siblings?

Have any of them had these things happen? The reason why I ask is that there's coming to be a general "consensus" that this may very well be genetically related. Which, in turn, would mean your parents, aunts and uncles, et al would have had similar or the same experiences...

SP

I know someone who says he once prevented an abduction by doing an OBE. He says it wasn't the greys, but similar...they looked brownish in color and had weak and thin bodies, but a huge head.

According to him, they tried to pull him out of his bed by grabbing his feet. It was two of them, they were small. After he finished them, they just vanished and their faces looked scared. Then he ended the OBE, woke up and was fine with no signs of an abduction. Since this time he never heard from them again.

He's a very credible person and before that event he never was interested in ufos or ets.

ok sorry for taking so long to respond and accidently ignoring your question. Lets see..

parents have sightings/experiences?
my brother has had some unusual experiences for sightings, and dreams that to me sound like abductions (but i want to clarify they are only dreams based on what he told me) . He has a repeating dream where he is shown hundreds of pictures of peoples faces he doesnt recognize. They are repeatedly shown to him. He said some of the faces are frightening, and of all different races and cultures. He even told me some looked alien. He has witnessed some strange ufo like activity as well, but nothing close up to my knowledge. Also my girlfriend ever since coming to America has some some very bizarre sightings, on the very first day i picked her up at the airport on our way home near our house she swears she saw a full fledged ufo (classic shape) hovering over my car. I thought she was staring at a deer, so i was looking on the ground as she was speechless and pointing over and over in the field/sky. I completely missed it, and it kills me that i was looking down when i should have been looking up as she claims she had a very clear view of it. Also my mom once told me a story about a ball of light that she thought was ball lightening that flew into her house zipped around and flew out a window. She is completely against the idea of ufos and aliens...but i'm shocked that she can somehow rationalize somthing like that story. Also my girlfreind and her mother also had an almost identical event happen to them in Ukraine, saw a firey ball fly into her house, zip around, and shoot out a window. It was storming that night according to my girlfriend. As to me myself, when i was in college on my way to school late at night in the middle of the road surrounded by endless cornfields, was several stobe lights. As i got out of the car and ran towards them it turned off, and i next saw them turn back on high in the air (although i could see no shape behind the bright lights... i'm guessing this was also a ufo). Finally when i transferred colleges and was driving near Rosewell I saw a giant blue ball of light drop straight out of the sky and fall to the earth, winked out before it hit. My dad is a die hard skeptic and thinks the idea of visiting alien life is insane. My grandmother claimed she had almost psyhic like abilities and was visited by "a spirit guide" in the form of a indian...scared the hell out of her and she asked it eventually to leave.

I think every family however can share some odd experience... these are mine



grandparents?

yes, grandma

greatgrandparents?
no clue

aunts and uncles?
i dont know most of my family very well as they live far away and we dont visit very often.
cousins?
dont know them well
siblings?
my brother has seen some unusual things, my sister is a skeptic to my knowledge

Here are some questions for you and your girlfriend to review. You are going to be shocked when you answer them.

Are you of Irish, Celtic, or Native American descent?
i'm told we are alittle less than a quarter Native American Indian

Are you adopted?
no

What "monsters" were in your room as a kid?
yes, i've always had an unatural fear of the dark. Very very strange and scary dreams when i was young. Also to this day remember waking up and hearing static like radio static and then music playing shortly with no identifiable source in my room (in my head?)

Have you ever seen a "bigfoot"?
Maaaaybe.... that is a weird one. One night going over to my parents house alone i got out of my car, it was late at night. The motion lights turned on. Then i look into their forest and about 70 feet in front of me something massive looked like it stood up on two feed, and just stood there. At that very moment the motion lights mysteriously turned off and would not turn on despite me flayling around. I have never been so terrified and i ran to the house in a panic for my life. It could have been a deer. I did NOT see what it was clearly, it was big, massive, close, and staring right at me, created a iminent sense of fear that i can still taste.

Have you ever seen a "man in black"?
Never, always thought i might, but nothing i can think of.

Have you ever seen an "alien"?
I dont know, i either saw a military drone that was cloaked/invisible, a full fledged alien, or was hallusinating from lack of sleep. (current thread)

Have you ever seen a "red eyed guy with a black cloak"?
No but i would love to .... i think

Have you ever seen "shadow people" or "watchers"?
I dont know what one would look like and i'm not familiar with the term "watchers" During this event i did see semi transparent forms of either a humanoid body or some sort of vechicle. This could be also related to seeing a shadow person but its based on individual terminology. I saw what looked like a 3d form that was mostly transparent, and it looked to be wearing a black suit.

Have you ever seen a "Nordic"?
NO not to my knowledge, but i would think it would be interesting if they exist (i dont necessarily believe in the more dramatic aspects of ufology)

Do you have an unusual affinity with animals?
They usually dont like me for some reason. My own pets are oblivious, but animals of friends and strangers seem to be effected negatively by my presence (no i'm not evil to my knowledge )

Have you ever noted unexplained puncture wounds on your body?
Yes i have a small bee bee metal ball like object in my left tricept. I have had this as a child and no idea what is inside of there. No accidents that would have caused this. It s not producing an EMF field or any feedback so I dont know about the implant part...but it is very unusual to me..(Its metal..) Just 4 days ago i developed a very large bruise and a triangular like mark on my right calf. I dont see any cut marks however. I'm extremely healthy and fit so no clue what caused that much damage.

Have you ever noted unexplained red splotches or spots on your body?
In general no, but i developed a rash (exima?) like symptoms on a few places on my body. I have NEVER had this as a child and i'm clean and healthy so no clue how this happened. No red spots or red splotches

Have you ever noted unexplained "scoops" out of your skin anywhere on your body?
I had several moles removed from my chest as a small child which made scoop marks across my body... i was young when my mom did this so i cant tell what the doctor did and what might be considered unexplained.

Do you have a neck injury at the T3 or immediate surrounding area?
YES, strange question.. No idea how it happened and became noticable within the last year.

Do you have a back injury at the L5/S1 or immediate surrounding area?
100% YES.... does this mean somthing?!?!? YES i have ALOT of problems in that area and it is crippling my life in alot of ways. Why do you ask?? That is the exact area i have my problems.

Do you ever see owls?
Yes, they live in my back yard and i saw one yesterday evening.

Have you ever seen pink phorphorescent lights?
I dont understand the question.

Have you ever seen a UFO?
maybe, described above.

Whether you've seen a UFO or not, do you feel "aliens" are here to "help us"? Why?
Very hard question for me. I dont know to answer personally or logically. I always try to seperate the two when i made statements on my beliefs. Personally.. the answer is yes i think they are here to observe us (assumign they are real which i'm not convinced) . They play some sort of role in our development both individually and as as society.

If you were to ask me that night when this happened if i felt they would help me?...the answer is no, i was scared to death, and felt the probulator was coming for my corn hole! LOL honestly i was really scared and realized that a alien mindset would be "alien" like a spiders mind would be to a kitten mind. Like a insect to a mammel... and that scares the hell out of me.. the unkown

Have you ever detected the scent or odor of SULFUR or BURNT MATCHES, SOGGY CARDBOARD, MOLDY LEATHER in your home?
Never, I smoke and dont have a good sense of smell (dont smoke inside however), and these smells are not common place in my household (thank god)

Have you ever detected unexplained bruising on your body?
Yes unexplained bruising in general is very rare for me. However as i described above i developed a significant bruise on my right calf with a triangle shape in the middle... NO IDEA what caused this much damage.

Have you ever experienced "missing time"?
No but some days i would love to

Are you unusually empathetic and/or compassionate?
With most matters in life i'm unusually cold and unempathetic, i think i use this rouse to mask my much deeper empathetic feelings and compassion. I am the first to cry at a sad movie, and if something tramatic happens to a love one it seems to affect me much worse than any of my family members. I think i try my hardest to bury this emotional flood gate i have inside.

Do you ever get the feeling there is "someone there"?
Yes when i go to sleep at night, feels like someone is standing right over the bed staring at me. But that proves nothing to me personally.

Have you ever noted things out place, when you KNOW they were "placed correctly"?
Yes, but i also have a 5 year old daughter, who abducts all my possesions and rearranges them. The one thing i do have a problem with is things dissapearing. They seem to dissapear INSIDE my house, never ever to reappear. I have ADD so i've always attributed it to my lack of attention.

Ever wake up with your clothes on backward?
No never, sounds scary.

With your shoes on the wrong feet?
No

In the wrong bed?
No

In the wrong house?
No

Ever develop a pattern of waking up at 3 or 4 in the morning?
Yes, will happen in a pattern like that for a week or so, then doesnt happen for a while. Almost like clockwork and usually scary times when it does happen. Can go to bed at 2am wakeup at 4...

Ever have dreams so vivid you wonder if they were real?
Yes, but not recently

Ever recall scents or odors from "dreams"?
No, i dont think i have a good sense of smell

Do your Parents or Grandparents have UFO stories to tell?
Just the ball of light story my mom told me. My dad told me a story about a black crow flyng and then all of a sudden while in mid air falling to the ground dead.... I think he thinks this is somehow ufo related but i'm not impressed nor is he in the ufo topic.

Do you ever have "endtimes" visions, many times with the wrong scenario, wrong dates, etc?
I dont really understand the question. End of the earth? If so no.

This question for men only
Have you ever detected a "lumplike" object attached to your right testicle?
No

This question for women only
Have you ever been pregnant and had the fetus simply disappear?

Do you have strange or unwarranted fear or phobia of Clowns, Racoons, Midgets, Children?
I have a fear of midgets and people with downs syndrome. I love racoons, clowns never bothered me (daughter is TERRIFIED of clowns). And i love children.

Do you ever hear noises on your roof in the middle of the night?
YES, scares the sht out of me when that happens. Doesnt happen everynight, but it does happen and sounds like somthing walking across it.

Have you ever seen ghosts of loved ones
No never. Of all the people i dont think they would visit me and no one that close to me has ever died.


HOPE THIS HELPS!

WOW is it just me or is this new youtube video almost IDENTICAL to the red ufo/orb photos i took? If you pase the video you will see an almost identical match (i have no idea who owns this video). They also describe it as "coming closer" . Thats exactly what happened to us.

[edit on 15-2-2007 by hiii_98]

Last I heard you were making a run on Area 51, and got chased off.

Any thoughts if maybe the two might be related

Maybe the UFO might have been a fake hoping to abduct you and find out what you know about the place. I just heard a story, I'll see if i can find it. About a guy who thinks that a. US/aliens work together in 51. They abduct people who they think know too much and download the info then erase memories "losing time", etc.

Its probably not that just a thought.

Man, I wish I lived near you, I would like to hook up and go alien hunting at 51.

First of all, this entire event happened BEFORE i got to vegas or area 51 while driving from Wisconsin to Nevada (the groom lake visit was a planned part of our vacation, the "ufo visit" in Utah was not)

hey i'll fly into vegas any time if you want hang out and check the base out. All of my friends up here and poor and have little sense for adventure. I think it would be a great idea to form a party of a few interested people and check out the base. I'm not an expert but i do have some experience there and some excellent ideas on where to sit and how to handle the camo dudes.

[edit on 15-2-2007 by hiii_98]

So i've looked at the newly uploaded stuff. The videos don't show anything new. We've already seen the red lights.

But something i found very interesting. I know that this has been posted some time ago, but i've done something else to that picture.

The picture i'm talking about is the (um...let's call it "humanoid looking") light.

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I've not only increased the R-gamma channel but also the G-channel and the B-channel.

I then found out that there's abit more to see than "just" this "humanoid looking" light.

Here's another one:
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Althought some folks already talked about the picture, it does not only show hiii's girlfriend.

Don't look at the girlfriend, look at the background. Without the increased r, g and b-gammachannels the background would be black. But there are a few ....let's say "sources of light" in the background.

edit: typo

[edit on 16-2-2007 by AgainstSecrecy]

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[edit on 16/2/07 by masqua]

thank you for posting this, i'm glad we were able to prove aliens or military drones exist and we have definitive photo proof. By the responses so far or lack thereof, i can only assume everyone on the board agrees.

Originally posted by hiii_98

Are you unusually empathetic and/or compassionate?
With most matters in life i'm unusually cold and unempathetic, i think i use this rouse to mask my much deeper empathetic feelings and compassion. I am the first to cry at a sad movie, and if something tramatic happens to a love one it seems to affect me much worse than any of my family members. I think i try my hardest to bury this emotional flood gate i have inside.

Dude. Are we related ?
My wife calls me a rock. I rarely show emotions, other than the twisted
humor I spew.
Then again, I can be petting my cat, and start sobbing for no reason.
Funerals ? Forget it. I have to be escorted out.
I always thought I hid my emotions due to what I experienced in the Army.
Seemed plausible, anyway.
Never knew others felt the same way.

Thank you, for sharing something I rarely acknowledge.

Lex

Originally posted by AgainstSecrecy

Originally posted by Southpaw11




SP

I know someone who says he once prevented an abduction by doing an OBE. He says it wasn't the greys, but similar...they looked brownish in color and had weak and thin bodies, but a huge head.

According to him, they tried to pull him out of his bed by grabbing his feet. It was two of them, they were small. After he finished them, they just vanished and their faces looked scared. Then he ended the OBE, woke up and was fine with no signs of an abduction. Since this time he never heard from them again.

He's a very credible person and before that event he never was interested in ufos or ets.

I know this person too. And I've already conveyed CANDIDLY that this is, more than likely, a memory overlay, a "screensaver" based upon his OWN imagination. THIS would allow for the effect of everyone else telling him he is NUTS.

The imagery seems real to the person going through the experience b/c it is based upon IMAGES ONLY THEY HAVE SEEN. I cannot look inside YOUR imagination.

That person is NOT lying. But what they REALLY saw may simply be something completely DIFFERENT than that which they believe the saw.

SPout

Hiii,

Where in Wisconsin do you live? WI has a website that concerns only potential sightings in Wisconsin. www.ufowisconsin.com...

Originally posted by hiii_98


WOW

is it just me or is this new youtube video almost IDENTICAL to the red ufo/orb photos i took? If you pase the video you will see an almost identical match (i have no idea who owns this video). They also describe it as "coming closer" . Thats exactly what happened to us.
[edit on 15-2-2007 by hiii_98]

in the last 2 sec. the video doesnt work, while red light comes VERY close. Because of this, I think this video is fake. But who knows..
Did the light, which u had seen, come really so close as in this video you posted?

Dude. Are we related ?
My wife calls me a rock. I rarely show emotions, other than the twisted
humor I spew.
Then again, I can be petting my cat, and start sobbing for no reason.
Funerals ? Forget it. I have to be escorted out.
I always thought I hid my emotions due to what I experienced in the Army.
Seemed plausible, anyway.
Never knew others felt the same way.

We could be emotional twins. I dont hide my emotions to be manly or a tough guy... its just seems like the way i am, yet like you said i could be reading the paper or watching a commercial and start crying for no apparent reason...strange to me even.

Where in Wisconsin do you live? WI has a website that concerns only potential sightings in Wisconsin. www.ufowisconsin.com...

Wow i'm a huge fan of your website and honored that you wrote me directly. I live in Janesville/Milton, next to all the Lima Marsh bigfoot/werewolf sightings U2 me if you can i'd like to compare notes!


[edit on 17-2-2007 by hiii_98]

in the last 2 sec. the video doesnt work, while red light comes VERY close. Because of this, I think this video is fake. But who knows..
Did the light, which u had seen, come really so close as in this video you posted?

Thats a good question. First of all i'd like to say no we did not consciously try to fake anything, but you do ask a good question. At times i would take the camera and try to zoom in the object, but it was very very difficult as it wasnt a huge ball of flames, it was about the size of a softball, and moving somewhat erratically. Which video are you reffering to, i'd like to see it again myself. If its the one i'm thinking of i think the object flew past the area i was zoomed in on and i actually caught a good closeup of it.

To answer your other question the object never came face to face with us, and unquestionably prefered to keep a distance of about 60 feet between us and it. Only at 2 times did it come close and begin to materialize into..whatever it did.

It was like it was stalking us and keeping its distance at the same time, is how i would describe its behavior. It tried to stay out of our view most the the time, and prefered to hover behind us.

Is this what you are reffering to?


[edit on 17-2-2007 by hiii_98]

Originally posted by hiii_98

Dude. Are we related ?
My wife calls me a rock. I rarely show emotions, other than the twisted
humor I spew.
Then again, I can be petting my cat, and start sobbing for no reason.
Funerals ? Forget it. I have to be escorted out.
I always thought I hid my emotions due to what I experienced in the Army.
Seemed plausible, anyway.
Never knew others felt the same way.

We could be emotional twins. I dont hide my emotions to be manly or a tough guy... its just seems like the way i am, yet like you said i could be reading the paper or watching a commercial and start crying for no apparent reason...strange to me even.

Lemme throw you guys ANOTHER BONE... THIS is actually kinda rough... so dig in.


Imagine if you were living in a world where
1) fetuses disappear...*poof* gone
2) sperm is extracted from men REGULARLY
3) eggs are harvested from women REGULARLY
4) the sperm and egg are tampered with
5) the fetus is tampered with
6) the hybris evolves...
7) sperm from one family is implemented to fertilize the egg from another family... and then the growing fetus is put in a THIRD family.... THAT is the woman who actually BIRTHS the child

WHAT IF... you ARE related.

And NO... unfortunately... I am NOT joking. Not in the SLIGHTEST.

SPout

I am not talking about your video, but the video you posted and claimed that it is a similar event (www.youtube.com...).
The last seconds of this video is broken, and it seems fake.

Originally posted by Southpaw11
I know this person too.[...]

Sorry but I doubt that you know one of my relatives in Germany. And no the person i was talking about is not me.

I'm from Germany and so are my relatives.

Believe me, this person is not a woowoo