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Newz Forum: BASEBALL: Dean's List: Amusing Musings for October 6, 2004

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posted on Oct, 6 2004 @ 12:05 PM
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The Great "American" Pastime is getting more international by the day - not just across the board, but at the highest levels of Major League Baseball...
 

In 1997, Dominican Pedro Martinez and Canadian Larry Walker became the first international tandem to sweep the NL CY Young and MVP Awards, respectively. History repeated itself just two years later, when Martinez and Puerto Rico's Pudge Rodriguez swept the AL awards in 1999. And unless the Baseball Writers of America pull the biggest flip-flop of the campaign year, the Dominican Republic's Vladimir Guerrero and Venezuela's Johan Santana stand to become the third international duo to take home the Big Two in the past eight years...

Just ten years ago, American-born players constituted 85% of the AL and NL All-Star rosters, or 45 of 53 overall. The remaining 15% of included four Puerto Ricans, two Venezuelans, one Dominican and one Jamaican-born player by the name of Chili Davis. That same year in 1994, there was only one less California-born All-Star (seven) than there were international players in all. Today, U.S.-born players are account for 60.3% of the All-Star community, or 41 of 68 overall. What a difference a decade makes. Let the numbers show that MLB's 27 reigning international All-Stars include nine Dominicans, seven Venezuelans, four Puerto Ricans, two Japanese, one Columbian, one Cuban, one Mexican and one Vietnamese player. Just ten years ago, there were less international All-Stars than there are there are Dominican All-Stars today. On top of that, this year's All-Stars are comprised of more than twice as many international stars (27) than California-born players (twelve) in 1994. As the world gets smaller, this ongoing diversification of talent is making the game of baseball bigger. Such is the benefit of global capitalism in the free world. Much to its credit, MLB is emerging as a true melting pot of US Sport, an honest reflection of American ideals. And after decades of deception, the "World" Series is finally starting to make some sense...

Assuming young Johan wins the Cy Young, he'll become just the second starting pitcher in either league to win the award without going nine innings in a single start. (A 39-year-old Roger Clemens was the other as a member of the 2001 Yankees.) Then again, what's it all mean anyway if Santana gets it done in the post-season? Not much. Not much at all. World Series MVP Josh Beckett twice went the distance in last year's playoffs - including a series-clinching, five-hit shutout in game six of the Fall Classic - despite not having pitched a single complete game in three Big League seasons...

How much is a Schilling worth? All $12 million of his 2004 salary. With 20+ wins in three of the past four seasons, the 37-year-old ace is the high card in the Red Sox rotation. Like Nolan Ryan before him, the strikeout artist has yet to secure a Cy Young Award in either league in spite of his Hall of Fame credentials. Big deal. Curt knows better than anyone that his 2001 World Series MVP with Arizona is more precious than any amount of regular season awards. My two cents? A world championship in Boston would elevate the value of a Schilling to - you guessed it - priceless...




posted on Oct, 6 2004 @ 03:20 PM
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with all the international players the time for a world cup style championship is here, while ihave no doubt that the us would dominate the early tourny's i also think that the rest of the world would catch up quickly (this years olympic baseball and basketball are fine examples of this) in a relativly few years it would be a great event



posted on Oct, 6 2004 @ 04:14 PM
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Agreed - right now, I think the Dominican Republic and Venezuela could give the US a run for their money. Maybe even Puerto Rico. In no particular order, the lineups would look something like:

Dominican Republic:

1B: Albert Pujols
2B: Alfonso Soriano
3B: Adrian Beltre
SS: Miguel Tejada
LF: Manny Ramirez
CF: Juan Encarnacion
RF: Sammy Sosa
DH: David Ortiz
C: CAN'T THINK OF ONE

Starters: Pedro Martinez, Bartolo Colon

Closers: Armando Benitez, Octavio Dotel, Guillermo Mota

Not bad, eh?

Or even Venezuela:

1B: Andres Galarraga
2B: Jose Vidro
SS: Carlos Guillen
3B: Melvin Mora
RF: Bobby Abreu
CF: Carlos Beltran
LF: Miguel Cabrera
C: Victor Martinez
DH: Magglio Ordonez

Starting Pitchers: Johan Santana, Freddy Garcia, Kelvim Escobar

Closers: Ugueth Urbina

These teams could beat this year's respective All-Star squads, so they could definitely take the US...


Ben

posted on Oct, 6 2004 @ 05:15 PM
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I personally like internationally players coming into the states, it gives americnas something to worry about in the world of sports, just take basketball for explain this past olympics, and how the international players are taking control of a lot of the sports, and now with hockey.

There are showing the world that they can keep up with the americnas and even beat them at the games that they play, and the americans are so dominate at them, well not anymore. What about football, we have yet to really see european players enter the NFL, when is that going to start?



posted on Oct, 6 2004 @ 07:46 PM
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Originally posted by toejam
with all the international players the time for a world cup style championship is here, while ihave no doubt that the us would dominate the early tourny's i also think that the rest of the world would catch up quickly (this years olympic baseball and basketball are fine examples of this) in a relativly few years it would be a great event


If the Little League World Series is any indication, it may be sooner for the rest of the world. The US is 2-8 vs. the world the past 10 years in the August classic - LLWS results link


TRD

posted on Oct, 7 2004 @ 03:37 PM
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Thats a great team for the Dominican Republic, i never realised they had so many great players.

So who is making the biggest hit on the scene other than the Americans? The Dominicans?


Ben

posted on Oct, 7 2004 @ 04:28 PM
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I have no clue who is making the biggest scence i just konw that it is no longer dominate by americnas


TRD

posted on Oct, 8 2004 @ 11:33 AM
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So whats happened then?

The rest of the world just got better or the Americans just not producing as much talent?



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