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Newz Forum: FOOTBALL: NY Giants Preview 2004

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TRD

posted on Sep, 14 2004 @ 04:40 PM
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The Giants are another team entering the season with a lot of new personnel hoping to improve on a disastrous 2003 season. New York managed only 4 wins last year, their lowest total in the last 21 seasons, so they are desperate to turn things around quickly and new head-coach Tom Coughlin will certainly have his work cut out for himself. The Giants were just brutal offensively last year averaging only 15 points per game (ranked #15 in the NFC). They will enter the season with a new QB, either veteran Kurt Warner or rookie Eli Manning. Although Warner has been successful in the past for the Rams, he has started just 9 games the last two seasons and is clearly just a temporary placeholder for the future starter Manning.
 

In January, the team hired former Jacksonville Jaguars head coach Tom Coughlin to replace the deposed Jim Fassel. Coughlin promptly broke NFL Players Association rules in regard to offseason workouts in the spring, and was not believed to be a popular figure among many of his new charges. New York has boasted plenty of juicy storylines in recent months, and now the franchise would like to take possession of some wins. Last year's 4-12 record was the Giants' worst since Bill Parcells' debut season of 1983, and Coughlin will be blessed with the task of reversing the club's fortunes with a host of new faces, in one of the league's most difficult divisions, all the while residing under the harsh media spotlight of the Big Apple.

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Last Playoff appearance: 2002, 39-38 loss in San Francisco to 49ers in NFC WildCard game

Key matchup(s): Sept. 12 in Philadelphia, Sept. 19 vs. Washington, Oct. 10 in Dallas, Dec. 5 in Washington

Star Power: DE Michael Strahan (6-5, 275), RB Tiki Barber (5-10, 200), TE Jeremy Shockey (6-5, 255), QB Kurt Warner (6-2, 220), QB Eli Manning (6-4, 218), WR Amani Toomer (6-3, 202)

Top returnees: DE Michael Strahan (6-5, 275), RB Tiki Barber (5-10, 200), TE Jeremy Shockey (6-5, 255), WR Amani Toomer (6-3, 202), CB Will Peterson (6-0, 197), CB Will Allen (5-10, 192), SS Shaun Williams (6-2, 215), LT Luke Petitgout (6-6, 315), P Jeff Feagles (6-1, [SITEID])

Notable Additions: LB Carlos Emmons (6-5, 250), Philadelphia; LB Barrett Green (6-0, 225), Detroit; DT Norman Hand (6-3, 325), Seattle; C Shaun O'Hara (6-3, 306), Cleveland; QB Kurt Warner (6-2, 220), St. Louis; FS Brent Alexander (5-11, 200), Pittsburgh

Notable Subtractions: QB Kerry Collins (Oakland), DT Cornelius Griffin (Washington), LB Micheal Barrow (Washington), LB Dhani Jones (Philadelphia), LB Brandon Short (Carolina)

The Giants paid a steep price to land their quarterback of the future, Eli Manning, while also allowing incumbent starter Kerry Collins to move on to the Oakland Raiders. The lack of experience at the position prompted Accorsi to bring in former two-time league MVP Kurt Warner to bridge the gap until Manning is ready to start. Warner is hoping to rejuvenate a once-spectacular career while in the Big Apple, but if you take a look at the reasons he failed in his final seasons in St. Louis, I think it's obvious New York is not the ideal situation for him to rebound. As he rose to stardom with the Rams, he was surrounded by a very talented receiving corps, a running back that was a tremendous threat to catch the ball out of the backfield, and an offensive line that allowed him the time to make decisions in the passing game.

Tiki Barber is a very talented runner, but he lacks size and continues to put the ball on the ground on a consistent basis. But the biggest problem facing the Giants at the running back position is a lack of depth. Ron Dayne is strictly a between-the-tackles type of runner with little burst through the hole or ability to make defenders miss. Delvin Joyce offers some versatility and is a good special teams player, but I think he and Antwoine Womack would struggle to make the roster of just about any other team based solely on their ability as running backs. The Giants have a solid one-two punch at wide receiver with Amani Toomer and Ike Hilliard, but they must stay healthy. With a lack of depth at the position, the Giants have to be concerned about Hilliard's past injury problems. The team is counting on Tim Carter as the third receiver in multiple-receiver sets, but he has also struggled to stay healthy in his first two seasons, missing 15 of 32 games. Should injury strike again, the Giants will be forced to turn to '03 sixth-round draft choices Willie Ponder, David Tyree, or rookie Jamaar Taylor, another sixth-rounder. Veteran journeymen JuJaun Dawson and James McKnight are also in the mix for the No. 4 and No. 5 slots.

Things don't look good for the Giants in 2004. Whether Warner or Manning takes the snaps, the quarterback will be operating behind one of the NFL's worst offensive lines. For the same reason, life will be tough for Barber and Dayne. Defensively, six of the starting front seven are new to the lineup, and the secondary will have to prove it is over last year's injury problems. Even the special teams look sketchy. Aside from the personnel issues, New York plays in the same division with Philadelphia, which has legitimate Super Bowl hopes, as well as Washington and Dallas, which are counting on being playoff contenders. The Giants should be able to win more than four games in their first season under Coughlin, but it is hard to envision this team finishing anywhere but fourth in the NFC East.



Ben

posted on Sep, 15 2004 @ 10:45 PM
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yea sure they have a new qb and a new coach, but that isnt going to change much, the g-men are only gonig to win about 5 to 6 games if they are lucky and they probably arnt that lucky, so its not going to happen.



posted on Sep, 16 2004 @ 06:16 PM
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Yeah, they probably won't win 6 games, but they will be competetive in all thier games. Too much turnover, and not much impreovement during the off-season. The only glimmer of hopw that they have is if Tiki and Dayne can repeat the "Thunder and Lightning" effect of a couple years ago. But Coughlin will be too bull-headed to look like he's copying from a good idea...



posted on Sep, 25 2004 @ 06:24 PM
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Giants safety Williams to undergo knee surgery Monday

New York Giants safety Shaun Williams will have surgery on his left knee Monday to repair damaged cartilage.

Williams hurt the knee making an interception at practice on Friday and underwent an MRI at the Hospital for Special Surgery in Manhattan. It was not immediately known how long Williams will be out of the lineup.

Rookie Gibril Wilson, who had an interception against Washington last week, will start in Williams' place Sunday against Cleveland.

Williams, a seven-year veteran out of UCLA, missed the final six games of last season with an injured tendon in his right knee.


Ben

posted on Oct, 1 2004 @ 11:20 AM
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That will hurt them, but the question i think that is on everybody's minds is when is eli going to get that starting job?

AS of right now if kurt warner continues to play the way that he is doing he can just be the starter for the whole season, cause right now the giants are winning, and that is what the organizatino wants, they are 2-1 going into this week agaisnt the packers, its going to be a test for them to see how exactly much they have improved this past off-season. If they can win warner could be the starter for the seaosn.



posted on Oct, 1 2004 @ 06:05 PM
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It seems that it's Warner's job to lose. He's got the offense going decent, and he's a proven winner. If he loses consistency, then lookout, here comes Eli.



posted on Oct, 14 2004 @ 05:54 PM
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So far this season, I think that the Giants have been the surprise of the NFL. In what was hyped as the toughest division in football, they have risen, well, nearly to the top. Tom Coughlin has this team firing on all cylinders, and has beaten a current and future hall of famer in Joe Gibbs and Bill Parcells.

Great job so far.


TRD

posted on Oct, 25 2004 @ 03:56 PM
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Giants quarterback Kurt Warner fumbles as Lions defensive end James Hall tries to bring him down the first quarter Sunday. The Lions recovered the ball.


TRD

posted on Oct, 31 2004 @ 07:19 PM
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Tiki Barber rushed for 75 of his 101 yards and both of his touchdowns in the first half when the New York Giants built a 20-point lead en route to a 34-13 rout of the Minnesota Vikings.

It marked the fourth straight year the teams met here with the Giants winning the last three.



posted on Oct, 31 2004 @ 08:41 PM
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The Giants layed an old-fasioned whoopin' today on the Vikings in Minnesota's own dome. Coughlin has the G-Men playing well right now. Most people thought we'd see Eli by now but the way Kurt is leading them to victories you gotta stick with him. Tiki is having an incredible first half of the season as well.



posted on Oct, 31 2004 @ 08:45 PM
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Yeah, Tiki's been awesome this year, and lost very few fumbles, too...



posted on Oct, 31 2004 @ 08:47 PM
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Originally posted by Gibbs Baby!!!
Yeah, Tiki's been awesome this year, and lost very few fumbles, too...


Exactly. Tiki's always been a great running back but was always fumbling, this year he's held on to the ball and is finding the end zone on a regular basis.



posted on Nov, 1 2004 @ 10:01 AM
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hes holding onto the ball more because its in a different position on his body




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