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Originally posted by Saphronia
Honey.
We can't keep teachers because the pay is invisable nobody worth a damn wants to teach, and we can't keep schools open because we can't afford them. Each state has their own problems and surely you can vouch for the failing system in Alabama. Money is education. Its books-its salaries-its classrooms-its curriculum and programs. Its that calculus class you want your son in.
We could list all the problems and come up with eight hundred solutions but if the money aint there what is the point. The system is dying a slow death, and it's taking our society along with it, because we refuse to fund education even on the primary and secondary level. I haven't even started in on the high cost of higher education.
And like you I worked my way through college. I saw many people packing their bags because of money. It kills us to admit it, and it's going to be are stingy down fall. Because other nations see fit to offer decent public education. Even China is making strides in this department. We wanna fund the police stations before they fund the schools. Protect my property # my brain.--that sounded bad...oh well.
[Edited on 10-12-2003 by Saphronia]
Originally posted by Saphronia
Honey.
We can't keep teachers because the pay is invisable nobody worth a damn wants to teach, and we can't keep schools open because we can't afford them. Each state has their own problems and surely you can vouch for the failing system in Alabama. Money is education. Its books-its salaries-its classrooms-its curriculum and programs. Its that calculus class you want your son in.
We could list all the problems and come up with eight hundred solutions but if the money aint there what is the point. The system is dying a slow death, and it's taking our society along with it, because we refuse to fund education even on the primary and secondary level. I haven't even started in on the high cost of higher education.
And like you I worked my way through college. I saw many people packing their bags because of money. It kills us to admit it, and it's going to be are stingy down fall. Because other nations see fit to offer decent public education. Even China is making strides in this department. We wanna fund the police stations before they fund the schools. Protect my property # my brain.--that sounded bad...oh well.
[Edited on 10-12-2003 by Saphronia]
Originally posted by Saphronia
I wouldn't want to live in a country ran by any of you freaks..
America isnt broken. There's little that can't be changed by changing the folk we send to Washington. It's the priorities and the lack of backbone. Lobbies wouldn't be so bad if politicans could stand up to them. Education wouldn't be so bad if we funded it. Forgein policy wouldn't be so bad if we had moral leaders. You guys see where I'm going. We elect the laws and the policy. If your politican doesn't vote how you want him to you can send him packing. The problem with America is apathy and we are lazy and we don't care about our neighbor anymore. We've become onlookers.
The problem with america is americans. If our country isn't running right it's our own damn fault.
Originally posted by Thomas Crowne
Colonel,m again, you are a pathetic liar capable only of stringing together hypocritical sentences and formulating inflamatory thoughts.
You just made a statement, saying the government should spend money in a stupid and wasteful manner, and right after I have explained to you that such programs are a violation of the constitution and indeed prevent the money from actually helping the most who need it by keeping money from being used at the local level.
You are the hypocrit. You want to give your money to the government so that it can be wasted? DO IT! But don't expect the rest of us to want to go along with it.
Show hwere your liberal, thieving, hypocritical suggestions are IAW the constitution, and I will in turn tear you out of the intellectual frame.
Your insults, suggesting that the republican attitude is " I got mine, you got yours" is nothing but an empty insult, and you know it fully. You want to give handouts indescriminately so that you can control a certain segment of the nation and insure a locked in democratic/liberal vote, and to insure a divided nation.
Originally posted by Thomas Crowne
Your insults, suggesting that the republican attitude is " I got mine, you got yours" is nothing but an empty insult, and you know it fully.
Originally posted by Thomas Crowne
Read what I posted in the political scandal forum.
General Welfare did not mean what the government calls general Welfare today, and if you have had any learning about the constitution, you already know that. As a matter of fact, how dare you try and use the words of true patriots and great men in order to excuse and bolster your love for a huge, money and liberty stealing monster federal government!
Originally posted by Thomas Crowne
Logiclock, do you think the only two options are entry level jobs or crime. That's BS. One can work their way up without college, and it is not unheard of for people to (GASP!!) start their own business.
Regardless, education is not a God given right, and it sure as heck isn't the responsibility of you to pay for others' education. If you would like to donate to someone's education, fine, that is a great thing. As a matter of fact, I would be all about such charities were I allowed to keep my money, rather than the government deciding how much I should keep and where they should spend the money they stole from me.
As a matter of fact, I am aware that "rehabilitation" does not work, and that recidivism is very high. Education is not rehabilitation to begin with, you are merely making a more educated criminal. How can you "rehabilitate" those who have not been first "habilitated"?
As I have stated before, people have the ability to get educated, whether it is through the loans I took and had to pay back, working at the same time to eat and to feed my family, or through government programs that exist already. They do not wind up in prison because of a lack of education, and an education is not what will repair their lacking in morals and character.
As far as getting laid off, I am aware of that scene. You make your destiny, or you lie in excrement in self pity.
I'm not exactly working the field in which I trained; I haven't opened an avionics component in a long time. But I am still employed and still making a decent living. Is it because I thought about crime? No. Did my education have anything to do with that? Not any public education, higher or otherwise. That training came from home. And no government funded school can duplicate that.
Originally posted by Saphronia
Ivan, you don't know me, yet.
All war is murder.
I think that about sums it up, nice to meet you.