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Originally posted by TRAINEDFORTHIS
Originally posted by lilblam
The Christian information about a creation comes from a mistranslation of the Jewish Testament. The Jewish text reads:
"In beginning, the GODS MADE the heaven and the earth."
The Christians CHANGED that to read:
"In THE beginning, GOD CREATED the heaven and the earth."
In other words, the concept of a creation stems from a MISTRANSLATION - from a LIE. Think about that!
Reply: Isn't it great that because of God's given freewill that anyone can believe anything they want to and say anything they want to. However this is only true for now. All will eventually have to deal with the consequences of the decisions they have made.
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Originally posted by helen670
T.F.T there is not going to be a removal of Christians ....
QUOTE//
In all the writings of the Scriptures, the Early Fathers, and the Ecumenical Councils, there is no mention of two 2nd comings of Christ.
The Fathers of the Church wanted it to be crystal clear that when our Lord returns (a time which only God the Father knows- Mark 13:32).
He will establish His rule on earth forever, not merely 1000 years.
The council did not condemn the Rapture heresy because the teaching did not yet exist.
Moreover,
there is no mention of the teaching in either the early Medieval period or the Scholastic era.
AND....QUOTE////The Rapture�s supporters derive their opinions ultimately from a single Scripture verse, I Thessalonians 4:17,
"Then we who are left alive will be carried off together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and thus we shall always be with the Lord." Less popular but often cited is Matthew 24:40-42,
"Then there will be two in the field.
One will be taken and the other left.
Two will be grinding at the mill. One will be taken and the other left.
Therefore, be vigilant, for you do not know on what day your Lord will come."
The paragraph which contains the first verse quoted above, I Thessalonians 4:17,
forms the Epistle reading for funerals in Orthodox worship.
The passage begins with 4:13.
In preceding verses St. Paul has spoken of the necessity for holiness of life and for brotherly love among Christians (4:1-12).
With verse 13 he turns to another topic, the fate of Christians after death.
Misunderstandings on this issue had apparently caused needless distress and apprehension in the church at Thessalonika.
It seems that some people believed that Christians who died before Christ�s return would somehow miss out on that glorious event.
St. Paul seeks to calm their fears (vs. 13). He points out that as Christ returned from the dead at His Resurrection,
so also,
at the end of time,
His followers who have died in the interim will be restored through resurrection (vs. 14).
At the Second Coming,
the Christian dead will be raised (vs. 16). Then they and the faithful who are still alive will be caught up into the clouds to welcome Christ as He descends (verses 15,17).
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TFT:
I asked: what are the jinn? are they good, evil or both?
you replied:
Reply: Another one of Satan�s allusions like ghost and leprechauns!!! ALL ARE BAD!!!
Would you like to be more specifik please..
Because, the Jinn according to Koran, can be both Good ort Bad. This means there can be also good Aliens.. It is the Holy Book of a world religion, thus, i may expect a more specifik answer from you..
Reply: I don quite understand what was not understood here. If it is from Satan it is BAD!!! I suggest you study the Bible and pray for guidiance through the Holy Spirit instead of depending on the Koran if you want understanding. Of course such is your freewill. There is NO such thing as a good ALIEN. All are clones created by the fallen angels to deceive mankind!!!
Thanks for asking.............
Originally posted by TRAINEDFORTHIS
Just thought I would mention that fallen angels/aliens have a sick sense of humor. Thats is why they can tamper with the Spirit Rover and cause it to come on and off again. Just to tease humanity. Pay attention to what happens to the second probe. You will notice NASA has had many failures on Mars. Of course you may think it is by coincidence.
Thanks for paying attention...........
Originally posted by krossfyter
How do you figure that the fallen angels/aliens are tampering with the spirit rover? I know you say you get your message from the Holy Spirit. But is there any other type of way you are arriving at this answer or assumption? Any evidence outside of the Holy Spirit?
Just would like to hear what you have to say thats all.
Originally posted by TRAINEDFORTHIS
Originally posted by krossfyter
How do you figure that the fallen angels/aliens are tampering with the spirit rover? I know you say you get your message from the Holy Spirit. But is there any other type of way you are arriving at this answer or assumption? Any evidence outside of the Holy Spirit?
Just would like to hear what you have to say thats all.
Reply: My attention here is basicly to inform that God does not desire for man to be on Mars. Mankind has enough problems on earth. The fallen angel/aliens are quite aware of this and know that they have an open hand to deal with the situation. They know that God would deal with them Himself if they allow lets just say certain information about them which is on Mars to be given to man before He is ready for man to know. Therefore they are more involved than most would believe. They are responsible for some failures and some have been equipment problems. The pattern will continue.
Also you may read John 16:13 on how the Holy Spirit works.
Thanks for asking.................
This is patently ridiculous. Again I must ask why this thread exists in a forum dedicated to conspiracies in religion, or inspired by aspects of religion? This seems much more suited to the general theology discussion intent of the BTS religion forum.
Originally posted by TRAINEDFORTHIS Just thought I would mention that fallen angels/aliens have a sick sense of humor. Thats is why they can tamper with the Spirit Rover and cause it to come on and off again.
Originally posted by SkepticOverlord
Originally posted by TRAINEDFORTHIS
Just thought I would mention that fallen angels/aliens have a sick sense of humor. Thats is why they can tamper with the Spirit Rover and cause it to come on and off again.
This is patently ridiculous.
Again I must ask why this thread exists in a forum dedicated to conspiracies in religion, or inspired by aspects of religion?
This seems much more suited to the general theology discussion intent of the BTS religion forum.
Originally posted by TRAINEDFORTHIS
Originally posted by TRAINEDFORTHIS
Originally posted by krossfyter
How do you figure that the fallen angels/aliens are tampering with the spirit rover? I know you say you get your message from the Holy Spirit. But is there any other type of way you are arriving at this answer or assumption? Any evidence outside of the Holy Spirit?
Just would like to hear what you have to say thats all.
Reply: My attention here is basicly to inform that God does not desire for man to be on Mars. Mankind has enough problems on earth. The fallen angel/aliens are quite aware of this and know that they have an open hand to deal with the situation. They know that God would deal with them Himself if they allow lets just say certain information about them which is on Mars to be given to man before He is ready for man to know. Therefore they are more involved than most would believe. They are responsible for some failures and some have been equipment problems. The pattern will continue.
Also you may read John 16:13 on how the Holy Spirit works.
Thanks for asking.................
Originally posted by krossfyter
Originally posted by TRAINED FOR THIS
Reply: My attention here is basicly to inform that God does not desire for man to be on Mars. Mankind has enough problems on earth. The fallen angel/aliens are quite aware of this and know that they have an open hand to deal with the situation. They know that God would deal with them Himself if they allow lets just say certain information about them which is on Mars to be given to man before He is ready for man to know. Therefore they are more involved than most would believe. They are responsible for some failures and some have been equipment problems. The pattern will continue.
Also you may read John 16:13 on how the Holy Spirit works.
Thanks for asking.................
so if I read you correctly... the aliens/fallen angels are kinda working for God in this situation? Why do the aliens/fallen angles have to do this work and why doesnt God do it himself?
Reply: It is not that they work for God so much. It is just that prisoners must follow orders. Remember that they are in chains (even though their chains are not understood by most). However they have been allowed some freedoms, which include the setting up of facilities for their use on plantets without human life. So they must take care to make sure they do not allow proof of their existence there to be discovered until after the official public announcement of their existence. If they slip up then God will take care of it but in a way they would regret.
Thanks for asking.........................