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Originally posted by lilblam
What if scripture in the bible is very often a lie? A created lie that was NEVER divinely inspired by anyone or anything, and written by man. Maybe even originally inspired by Aliens who CLAIMED to be the holy spirit.
How could you tell the difference between a real Holy Spirit, or an Alien that uses high technology to pretend to be the Holy Spirit and making you write scripture 2000 years ago or whatever? Really, how?
Also, what evidence would I need to be convinced that he is talking to the Holy Spirit? Well tell me what IS the holy spirit? What IS God? What's your definition/understanding of God and the Holy Spirit? Please fill me in.
Also, what makes you so SURE that Holy Spirit or God exist? Why would you believe someone on their word just like that? Is there ANY evidence to support this belief, and if so please tell me.
Originally posted by mig12
Trained,
You say that the soul comes at the very first cell. You are putting together science and religion, whicc is very hard to believe.
I am soryy, I did not read all of the tread, but how do you KNOW that the soul appears with the first cell? Who told you? Maybe its there even before. Just sounds like a crock of s@@t to me
Originally posted by TRAINEDFORTHIS
Originally posted by lilblam
What if scripture in the bible is very often a lie? A created lie that was NEVER divinely inspired by anyone or anything, and written by man. Maybe even originally inspired by Aliens who CLAIMED to be the holy spirit.
I will move out of order to answer these questions because they are very important questions and need immediate answers.
Reply: If and maybe are words that awaken thoughts of "POSSIBILITIES". With God anything is possible..BUT anything is not done. It is like asking what if water was air and air is water and what if all tangibles were intangibles and vice versa. One could go on and on in this manner. However every "IF" and every "MAYBE" cannot and will not ever change a FACT. When one is through asking all the "WHAT IFS" and considering all the "MAYBES" one must still face the reality of all things.
How could you tell the difference between a real Holy Spirit, or an Alien that uses high technology to pretend to be the Holy Spirit and making you write scripture 2000 years ago or whatever? Really, how?
Reply: The Holy Spirit will NEVER contradict God or Jesus and the same for all three. Aliens will present HALF truths in order to further their deceptions and then in some way present something that goes against the information already presented in the Bible. Their attempt is not to TEAR your bible out of your hands, but to cause you to throw it away yourself because of the confusion that would exist between believeing them (ALIENS) or believing the Bible. The BIBLE is the standard for the testing of ALL SPIRITS!!! Of course that is why there has been such a strong effort (though subtly) to cause it's demise. Soon, after the annoucement, most will dismiss the bible because of what they SEE with their eyes!!!
Also, what evidence would I need to be convinced that he is talking to the Holy Spirit? Well tell me what IS the holy spirit? What IS God? What's your definition/understanding of God and the Holy Spirit? Please fill me in.
Reply: To understand God, the Holy Spirit and Jesus one would need to understand themselves. We were made in the image of God and therefore by looking at ourselves will see the "IMAGE" of God that we "DUPLICATE". Mankind has three parts; MIND, BODY, SOUL. The mind represents the spiritual part of mankind (energy). It cannot be seen but it is there. We see the results of the mind/spirit of man but not its existence. The body is the physical that can be seen so I will not elaborate on it. The SOUL is that important part that connects the interaction between body and SPIRIT/MIND. Interesting enough is that when the BODY dies the SPIRIT/MIND and the SOUL continues to live. It is just that the SOUL houses the spirit when it vacates the BODY. Therefore ALL three exists simultaneously. Since we are made in the IMAGE of God, then God has the same makeup. ALL THREE existing at the same time. God HIMSELF equates to a most powerful MIND/SPIRIT that cannot be seen...EXCEPT when He chooses to become JESUS/PHYSICAL. Of course He was seen as is recorded so I will not elaborate on "GOD IN THE FLESH" at this time. Then there is a very important third being which represents the SOUL of mankind. This being is called the "HOLY SPIRIT". When the MIND/SPIRIT of God speaks the HOLY SPIRIT (SOUL) of God moves to make it SO!!! Now one must keep in mind that I have presented this informatin on a human level....therefore to understand God you must multiply the affect of the IMAGE (mankind) of God TRILLIONS OF TIMES!!! In comparison if you could compare God to a fallen angel it would be like comparing the AMOEBA to MAN. Now mankind has not the power and is no match even to the powers of a fallen angel!!!
Also, what makes you so SURE that Holy Spirit or God exist? Why would you believe someone on their word just like that? Is there ANY evidence to support this belief, and if so please tell me.
Reply: First of I talk with Him EVERYDAY. However, even if I did not talk with Him everyday I would understand His existence through the fact that "SOMETHING DOES NOT COME FROM NOTHING". And you and I do exist. And not just in any old type of way. But the organization and order of God is seen in the fact that we are systemized individuals. We have the Skeletal, nervous, digestive, reproductive, excretory, muscular, circulatory, and respiratory systems. All are composed of organs which are composed of tissue which is composed of cells, which is compose of atoms, which is composed of quarks and fagons, etc. NOW THAT IS A LOT OF INTELLECTUAL ORDER to just show up by osmosis!!! This does not JUST happen but is done through a MASTER DESIGNER called God.......
I could go on and discuss the breakdown of specifics like the phalanges, carpals, metacarpals in the hand or trace a drop of blood from the heart down to the toe and explain the intricate details of oxygenation process that takes place when it passes through the lungs which further proves this master designer...........BUT NEED I?
Thanks for asking..............
Originally Posted by AlucardR
Matthew 24:5 For many will come in my name, claiming, "I am the Christ," and will decieve many
John 14:2-3 In my Father's house are many rooms; if it were not so, I would have told you. I am going there to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am.
This is when christ is comforting his disciples because he knew he was going to die and leave them, the place he's talking about going to is heaven. When he says he's preparing a place for them there he's referring to their places they have earned in heaven for being his apostles and that they will be with him in heaven again one day. It's a far stretch to say that refers to life outside of this planet..other than eternal life in heaven.
Originally posted by TRAINEDFORTHIS
trained if something does not have a soul IT CANNOT REBEL, as it has no independent thought other than its programming.
Reply: Allow me to make you aware that only HUMANS have a soul. Therefore the fallen angels who REBELLED against God never had and still do not have a soul. If a human is cloned that human can rebel but yet does/will not have a soul.
Thanks for commenting.....
Whilst you're on the subject here's a hard one for you. You obviously believe that Jesus is the Messiah, the chosen one or whatever. Study of the bible shows that The Messiah had to come from the line of David. Correct? This is justified by the Geneaology which traces the roots of Jesus all the way back to King David. Correct?
One small but insurmountable problem however, Joseph is listed in the geneaolgy as Jesus's father. He wasn't. God was. Therefore Jesus cannot be the Messiah. The Messiah must come from the line of David!!!!!!
Originally posted by Sapphire
How do you know that Animals don't have souls? Every living thing is created from matter/energy. Explains why some people see ghost dogs/cats/other anomolies. Never say never. I believe animals do have spirits. The soul is the Flesh, and the Spirit is who we truly are outside of the flesh. And, if you dont believe animals have spirits, why don't you? Before Adam and Eve had a Conscience did they have no spirit? what about Neanderthals? Did they have Spirits, they were thugs with little upstairs. Are animals discluded because they can't talk or communicate the way we do?
Originally posted by TRAINEDFORTHIS
Originally posted by Sapphire
How do you know that Animals don't have souls? Every living thing is created from matter/energy. Explains why some people see ghost dogs/cats/other anomolies. Never say never. I believe animals do have spirits. The soul is the Flesh, and the Spirit is who we truly are outside of the flesh. And, if you dont believe animals have spirits, why don't you? Before Adam and Eve had a Conscience did they have no spirit? what about Neanderthals? Did they have Spirits, they were thugs with little upstairs. Are animals discluded because they can't talk or communicate the way we do?
Reply: I know that ONLY humans have a soul, from the same source who has allowed me to know what ALIENS are. This information is through the Holy Spirit. Every living thing has a spirit, but every living thing does not have a soul. Only humans.
Thanks for asking...........
Originally posted by lilblam
Originally posted by TRAINEDFORTHIS
Originally posted by Sapphire
How do you know that Animals don't have souls? Every living thing is created from matter/energy. Explains why some people see ghost dogs/cats/other anomolies. Never say never. I believe animals do have spirits. The soul is the Flesh, and the Spirit is who we truly are outside of the flesh. And, if you dont believe animals have spirits, why don't you? Before Adam and Eve had a Conscience did they have no spirit? what about Neanderthals? Did they have Spirits, they were thugs with little upstairs. Are animals discluded because they can't talk or communicate the way we do?
Reply: I know that ONLY humans have a soul, from the same source who has allowed me to know what ALIENS are. This information is through the Holy Spirit. Every living thing has a spirit, but every living thing does not have a soul. Only humans.
Thanks for asking...........
Why do you trust that source, please tell me! What makes you so sure of its validity and claims? Especially something as absurd as it being the Holy Spirit - which is a lie and doesn't exist, just as God doesn't exist. There's FAR more evidence for the lack of existance of God and Holy Spirit - besides you just need to use your head and you can realize that if God/Holy Spirit exist that means a chain of command, that means they assumed forced authority over beings that DO have free will (didn't "God" say that himself, we have free will). They are violating our free will by interfering with our existances on ANY level without our authorization/permission. Such creature isn't a "God" it's a parasite and a succubus that requires our energy to feed on, and yes those beings are very real. It will of course pass itself off as "God" to a bunch of primitive, gullible people (as Earthlings were, and still are). I ask you, why do you believe this and follow it religiously, what is your REASON for such belief? And if you found out that you're wrong, what then? Do you think it's impossible that the knowledge you receive from Holy Spirit is wrong? So you are 100% sure that this being IS the biblical Holy Spirit and therefore infallible? What if it's just an energy-vampire type of 4th density service to self creature that can spin you around its finger and use you as a pawn to get more victims? People who are tricked by your deceptions mentally allow the same "holy spirit" to feed on their energy as well, as they proclaim worship/allegiance to it.. without knowing or realizing what it is they're doing. Is it the SAME God that commanded people to go to war and slaughter other in the Bible, the same vengeful, evil God? Don't make me laugh! There is no such thing as God, all is one.
Originally posted by porschedrifter
According to the davinci code, and other scriptures, jesus had a wife and a son or daughter i forget, the wife was mary magdolen or something like that.... Trained, what is your stance on that?
Originally posted by RANT
Trained, are you willing or able to put any parameters on your impending announcement theory so as to assist in validating your ideas?
I realize you say 'soon' but have previously only said that means in your lifetime, which could be anytime in the next quater century. That's not too much in the vein of 'holding my breath' as far as soon may be interpretted.
It would also be helpful if you could elaborate on the 'announcement' itself. What counts?
Source: The President? The Pope? NASA? You?
And the announcement is regarding...? Proof of Aliens? What counts? Only an actual "Alien" on CNN? Or an archeologist finding an 11 foot tall skeleton of a silicon based life form from 250 million years ago?
Just saying 'something' in the next couple of decades will validate your theory is too wide open. Can you refine?
Originally posted by DiRtYDeViL
1. Who is the Antichrist.
2. Is the Rapture true?
3. When jesus cast out demons in the new testament where these fallen angels or some kind of control device?
4. Why does God allow this to all happen?
5. Are the jews really gods children?
Originally posted by TRAINEDFORTHIS
Originally posted by Sapphire
How do you know that Animals don't have souls? Every living thing is created from matter/energy. Explains why some people see ghost dogs/cats/other anomolies. Never say never. I believe animals do have spirits. The soul is the Flesh, and the Spirit is who we truly are outside of the flesh. And, if you dont believe animals have spirits, why don't you? Before Adam and Eve had a Conscience did they have no spirit? what about Neanderthals? Did they have Spirits, they were thugs with little upstairs. Are animals discluded because they can't talk or communicate the way we do?
Reply: I know that ONLY humans have a soul, from the same source who has allowed me to know what ALIENS are. This information is through the Holy Spirit. Every living thing has a spirit, but every living thing does not have a soul. Only humans.
Thanks for asking...........
Originally posted by TRAINEDFORTHIS
Originally posted by RANT
Trained, are you willing or able to put any parameters on your impending announcement theory so as to assist in validating your ideas?
Reply: ...---> I only know that this ANNOUNCEMENT and PRESENTATION OF ALIENS will be in my life time and I am 52. ...
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this 'window' fits well with 'Mayan: 2012' & 'final generation' in Fig Tree analogy of scripture... ie; 1948 birth, growth of Israel the nation=70 yrs-> 2018 CE
It would also be helpful if you could elaborate on the 'announcement' itself. What counts?
Reply: The ANNOUNCEMENT will be a full blown public display designed to remove all doubts from anyones mind about the existence of the beings called ALIENS!
Source: The President? The Pope? NASA? You?
Reply: My information only reveals that the announcement will be made by PUBLIC OFFICIALS. No other specific details about the individual(s) who will be making the announcement have been given.
Reply: The announcement is regarding the existence of the ALIENS!!! That they are not here to harm us or interfere with us and they seek OUR help and they are also here to help US! They will not mingle with humanity immediately after the announcement which will leave mankind with many questions and debates. Only a small group of them will be shown publicly so as not to frighten mankind. This is designed to make mankind feel AT EASE and also they are not allowed to land in MASS by God. They wait until AFTER THE RAPTURE when there are not any Christians to affect them!!! They will present MUCH information to cause humanity to believe that the Bible is no longer necessary and to loose all hope in Jesus Christ!!!
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this too fits well with current timelines. If ya'll would go to the: www.fatima.org...
you will see the catholic church is constructing a VERY LARGE stadium, arena, Welcome Centre!!!
We might speculate, this inter-faith gathering place, at the 'holy site' of Fatima...was decided upon, after confirmation of 'incomming transport devices' was obtained thru the Vatican Telescopes & Observatories (posted previously)
Although the explaination of the 'taking away' of Holy Spirit differs greatly...
in-as-much: as the gnosis, noosphere, idea-sphere, that envelopes the earth...WILL BE SWEPT AWAY BY a gamma-ray burst, incl. exotic quantum particles...--> ThaT, is the act, which will strip the planet of the [realm of the gods/universal conscious/holy spirit]
...Enjoyed your THREAD, TRAINEDFORTHIS[/b
~*~ (we all see, but from different perspectives)
People keep screaming about the lack of existance of God.
I wouldn't call the Entire Universe a lack of existence.
Where did every atom, every little thing in teh universe come from, and how was it made?
I'd surely believe that God the Creator made it than it was just here coz it was.