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Newz Forum: FOOTBALL: BCS back to drawing board this week

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posted on Apr, 25 2004 @ 03:21 PM
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Well, the BCS is back in the news. Not surprising. Nobody is going to be happy with how we crown a national champion. There is always something wrong with this system or that system. Issues on the agenda include a new TV deal, and adding a 5th BCS bowl game. As long as the champion is based on both the BCS and human polls, there will never be agreement if the race is close. Last year USC was ranked #1 in the human polls but #3 in the BCS rankings. In the end, USC was not #1 in the BCS but still #1 in one of the polls.
 

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SCOTTSDALE, Ariz. -- The Bowl Championship Series commissioners will take the first baby steps here this week toward fixing their controversial system -- again.

Not that it will stop any of the crying that resulted from the most contentious season in BCS history in 2003.

None of the major issues are expected to be resolved at the annual BCS meetings that begin Monday and run through Wednesday. But the clock is ticking. A new TV deal has to be negotiated. The viability of a fifth BCS bowl must be decided. Both would begin with the 2006 season as part of what could be a 10-year contract.

The commissioners from the six power conferences most likely will begin the process of tweaking the BCS formula that produced a split national champion last year for the first time in the six-year history of the system. BCS chairman Mike Tranghese is leading a push to reduce the computers' influence on the formula. Last year, the human polls agreed before the bowls Southern California was No. 1, but the Trojans were No. 3 in the BCS and were edged out of the Sugar Bowl by the BCS ratings.


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There is no way we can crown a national champion if there are 2 separate ways to define a #1 team. Either we have to ditch the BCS or ditch the human polls at the end of the season. I personally do not like the human polls, they are based on what you are doing today, not what you have done all season. Fine, keep the human polls, just for posterity sake. Make them only 1/4th or 1/5th the basis for the BCS and use that as the only way to crown a national champion.

Or, playoffs. 4, 8, 16 teams. The national title game is 4-6 weeks after the end of the season. Lots of time to play a tournament. Too many games? restrict the number of games during the season for all teams to 10 or 12. BAH!




posted on Apr, 25 2004 @ 07:09 PM
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i'd go for a playoff system. give every conference a championship game and have a playoff with the conference champs, that would have to be about the fairest way of doing it. but the BCS is under contract till 2007 so we have a ways to go before anything could be done with it anyway.


Ben

posted on Apr, 25 2004 @ 07:12 PM
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so are you guys saying that the BCS should change its system to the college basketball type?



posted on Apr, 25 2004 @ 09:27 PM
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they could easily do a playoff system, the earlier bowl games could be the first rounds of the playoffs, and the big 4 could rotate for the championship like the do now. It's not like they play the big one on New Years anymore.

Heck, when was the last time they played the "championship" game on New Years?


Ben

posted on Apr, 25 2004 @ 09:29 PM
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Well everybody is talkigna bout the playoff system, but i dont think it could work.

How many teams are there in college football? Exactly there are too many in bowl games.

You cant think of it as college basketball it is far to physical and you cant wear down these kids before the pros so the schedule length has to be a certain level that is respeectable among everybody, and this is hwat htey have agreed on



posted on Apr, 26 2004 @ 12:20 AM
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I like and don't like the conference champs playing in a tourney, but you have weak conferences and strong conferences, so that might not work out.

Use the BCS. Make the human polls be 1/10th of the BCS numbers. Take the top 4 teams. That means would only be 2 extra games. Or take the top 8, 3 extra games. Limit seasons to 10 games a team. Thus max of 12/13 games. That is not too much.

The biggest thing is, you cannot have one poll decided 1/2 of the national champ and the BCS decide the other half, or you will get many many more years like last year.



posted on Apr, 26 2004 @ 02:09 PM
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Originally posted by crayon
I like and don't like the conference champs playing in a tourney, but you have weak conferences and strong conferences, so that might not work out.

Use the BCS. Make the human polls be 1/10th of the BCS numbers. Take the top 4 teams. That means would only be 2 extra games. Or take the top 8, 3 extra games. Limit seasons to 10 games a team. Thus max of 12/13 games. That is not too much.

The biggest thing is, you cannot have one poll decided 1/2 of the national champ and the BCS decide the other half, or you will get many many more years like last year.


Im gonna have to agree.....its understandable that the teams cant play an extra 5 or 6 games, but they should have some sort of playoffs type bracket with at the most the 8 best rated teams which gives them 3 more games to play, which may seem like alot but its for an undisputed national championship 3 games shouldnt be considered too much of an extra burden



posted on Apr, 26 2004 @ 09:17 PM
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yeah, a plyoff system limited to like10 or 12 teams,that would be good.



posted on Apr, 26 2004 @ 09:23 PM
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hjmmm wouldnt it have to be like 2, 4, 8, 16 to work out right


Ben

posted on Apr, 26 2004 @ 09:25 PM
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i would have to say take the top 8 for the fact that college football is just so close and its all separated by one win. And its hard to separat all the teams by one win.



posted on Apr, 26 2004 @ 10:05 PM
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Originally posted by Osobad28
hjmmm wouldnt it have to be like 2, 4, 8, 16 to work out right


Yeah, you're right


16 teams, that'd be 4 rounds, that seems conceivable, thers' what, like 30 something bowl games nowadays?


Ben

posted on Apr, 27 2004 @ 06:41 PM
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4 rounds seems to much though. You dont want to decrease the schedule because then it would be that much harder to decided what teams would be selected



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