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Palestinians Can't Agree on Truce Offer

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posted on Dec, 9 2003 @ 03:08 AM
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Destroy Israel? Nary an article stated that. Smashing the Zionist invasion of their home land is destroying Israel?



posted on Dec, 9 2003 @ 08:12 AM
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"Zionist invasion"?

Tell you what.....a research project is going to be done on this whole "affair" real soon......but please start us off on the right foot and explain to us all here, that don't know......
Just what "exactly" is a Zionist or Zion?


regards
seekerof



posted on Dec, 9 2003 @ 12:50 PM
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Here, check out the rules and principles of Fateh, in their own words:

www.fateh.net...

Pay special attention to articles 2,6,12,17,18 and 22. These are the ones that specificly mention their desire to destroy Israel and their rejection of peaceful resolutions to the conflict.


I didn't invent the word, I am just refering to this above.
You should read it if you want to know the meaning of the word.



posted on Dec, 9 2003 @ 01:05 PM
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I should read it?
Stirfry......*shakes head*
I will address this in the upcoming Research Project on the Israeli/Palestine/Arab World.......
Till then, stick around, I'm sure the research project will reveal exactly what Zionism is and not what it is perceived to be.



regards
seekerof



posted on Dec, 9 2003 @ 01:07 PM
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A glance at this may help you to put a definition to the word as well.

www.palestinemonitor.org...



posted on Dec, 9 2003 @ 01:29 PM
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Tell you what StirFry.....
How about you give a definition of what a Zionist is...instead of pointing to a few links that have an obvious bias view point.

How about also...maybe you could explain how long the term has been around and give us a historical perspective on what Zionism is....maybe?



regards
seekerof



posted on Dec, 9 2003 @ 01:38 PM
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Originally posted by Stirfry


www.palestinemonitor.org...


if you read that website then read this one too.

so you have both sides of the equation


www.zoa.org...



posted on Dec, 10 2003 @ 04:20 PM
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These threads always turn out the same way. Two sides competing to be the victim. There are no victims. No one is innocent anymore. That's the point of violence, and it becomes so hoped for...so expected that no one even cares when it happens. They parade their dead down the street in front of news cameras for propaganda purposes...LOOK THEY KILLED MY SON! LOOK THEY KILLED MY DAUGHTER...Israel kills and Palestine kills. To offer support to any side is inhumane. There is no justification.

To die for freedom is not noble. There is no such thing as a freedom fighter, and if there were he wouldn't be holding a gun or strapped to a bomb. He wouldn't be riding in a tank or dropping bombs on a crowded street.

Oh don't mind me, continue your useless debate over who killed who this week, last week, last year, last century. I just wandered in this thread and got a lil pissed. I'm off to discuss real politics now.



posted on Dec, 11 2003 @ 12:58 PM
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I find it incredible that anyone here considers the brutal actions of the occupying zionist aggressors as somehow secondary to the ('facts of life') need for palestinian aquiescence.

Take note: the palestinian intifada came about because it became increasingly clear that trying to do things peacefully with the fork-tongued isreali's JUST WASN'T WORKING.

Do you understand?!



posted on Dec, 11 2003 @ 01:53 PM
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Let's put some more facts on the table. The Palestinians are the ones who are cowardly blowing up themselves and killing mainly only innocents, sometimes even children. Palestinian terroists stoned two teenagers to death in a cave. Roughly 64% of Palestinains support suicide bombings against the Jews, over 80% support the infatida and I belive it was roughly 60% opposing peace. The Palestinians are training childrento fight. To make this even worse Palestine is in fact a terroist state. By most definition a terroist state supports terroism and Araft and his regime support Hamas and the murder of innocents in the Gaza Strip. Why would anyone want a strip of sand I don't know.

The Jews retaileate against these cowardly acts of terroism and attack Hamas targets, apperantly the Jews have bad aim and take down about 15 civilians but more innocents have died at the hands of Palestinians tahn Jews. Show me a Jew blowing up 50 kids.



posted on Dec, 11 2003 @ 02:05 PM
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Originally posted by Saphronia
No one is innocent anymore.

Israel kills and Palestine kills.


Well, that about sums it up. Goodbye, folks.



posted on Dec, 11 2003 @ 02:10 PM
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Originally posted by JediMaster
Show me a Jew blowing up 50 kids.


they dont do such a thing...

thats way i support them...



posted on Dec, 11 2003 @ 03:16 PM
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Originally posted by Russian

Originally posted by JediMaster
Show me a Jew blowing up 50 kids.


they dont do such a thing...

thats way i support them...


Yes, they could never do such a thing
www.israel-state-terrorism.org...



posted on Dec, 11 2003 @ 03:20 PM
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Originally posted by Stirfry
If Israel would give back what it stole in 1967, there would be truce. I would fight invaders of my land too.
One man's terrorist is another's freedom fighter.


What, you mean what the brittish gave the palistinians in 1947? And then seporated the area into jew and muslim?



posted on Dec, 11 2003 @ 03:31 PM
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Hamas and Islamic Jihad, which have carried out most suicide attacks against Israel, resisted intense pressure from Prime Minister Ahmed Qureia and the top Egyptian mediator and refused a full cease-fire.


The whole problem here, is how can you trust people who have their women strap bombs to themselves, and who constantly break every single cease fire agreement they've ever made....

Here's the way I see it...

Man I is Isreal, Man P is the Palistinians.

P: Very well, peace.
I: Agreed.
P:*shoots I's kid*
I: What are you doing? We had an agreement? *shoots P's kid*
P: Now I want this....
I: Ok, lets talk...
They talk
P: Very well, peace.
I: Agreed.
P:*shoots I's other kid*
I: WTF are you doing? Are you mad? *shoots 2 of P's kids.

It's an endless cycle of stupidity on both sides, that is bound to continue until God comes down himself and says, "Look you stupid bastards...this is what I meant when I said the seed of Abraham (Isaac or Ishmael)...get it? Now shake hands and play nice." But, since God either:
1. Doesn't exist
or
2. Seems to delight in the perversity of it all...
It simply will never end.


EDIT:

If Israel would give back what it stole in 1967, there would be truce. I would fight invaders of my land too.
They tried this before...just when all were in agreement, Palestinians (like so many times before and since) blew up several more Isrealis all over again with suicide bombers...

[Edited on 11-12-2003 by Gazrok]



posted on Dec, 11 2003 @ 05:06 PM
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Originally posted by junglejake

Originally posted by Stirfry
If Israel would give back what it stole in 1967, there would be truce. I would fight invaders of my land too.
One man's terrorist is another's freedom fighter.


What, you mean what the brittish gave the palistinians in 1947? And then seporated the area into jew and muslim?


Do you mean the UN partition?
www.eurolegal.org...



posted on Dec, 11 2003 @ 09:35 PM
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Originally posted by Gazrok



Man I is Isreal, Man P is the Palistinians.

P: Very well, peace.
I: Agreed.
P:*shoots I's kid*
I: What are you doing? We had an agreement? *shoots P's kid*
P: Now I want this....
I: Ok, lets talk...
They talk
P: Very well, peace.
I: Agreed.
P:*shoots I's other kid*
I: WTF are you doing? Are you mad? *shoots 2 of P's kids.


[Edited on 11-12-2003 by Gazrok]


as you see Iseral only REACTS to the TERRORISM!!!

its the palistin who do the TERRORISM!!!



posted on Dec, 11 2003 @ 09:42 PM
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Originally posted by Stirfry


Yes, they could never do such a thing
www.israel-state-terrorism.org...


that website is BUILD TO BASH ISERAL!!!


its plain bull# comparing to the palistains...

and people do die in war...

if Iseral soldier open fire on some high rank terrorist and kills a person or two...

well they are reacting to the terrorism created in their country...



posted on Dec, 11 2003 @ 10:56 PM
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i know kids at my shool who live there part time

1 palestin and one izral

now, they are friends, One day they broughet a video tape

it showed the palestinen couldnt go anyware without a "card" it showed them like a rat cage

realy, dont be ignorent izral is worse



posted on Dec, 11 2003 @ 11:14 PM
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Iseral made checkpoints...

to check the palistians for bombs...

they are trying to make there country SAFER!!!

also would you not hate someone who always kills your family and kids...



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