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Originally posted by WestPoint23
My vote for best special ops training is the seals sure anyone can teach their troops like the spetnaz get trained to kill everything that walks not obey Geneva rules and just be ruthless and do illegal stuff but a good soldier or commando is one that has discipline and respect for the rules while at the same time completes the mission that is why i vote for the S.E.A.L.S.
Originally posted by WestPoint23
My vote for best special ops training is the seals sure anyone can teach their troops like the spetnaz get trained to kill everything that walks not obey Geneva rules and just be ruthless and do illegal stuff but a good soldier or commando is one that has discipline and respect for the rules while at the same time completes the mission that is why i vote for the S.E.A.L.S.
[edit on 22-7-2004 by WestPoint23]
also i have no doubt the SEAL's are almost as good as the SAS but they lack the stmaina to do the mission, and they aint no where near SBS standards
Originally posted by COOL HAND
also i have no doubt the SEAL's are almost as good as the SAS but they lack the stmaina to do the mission, and they aint no where near SBS standards
As soon as I see the SAS or SBS do 5 mile open ocean swims with rebreathers and full combat gear, I might concede that they are as tough as the Navy SEALs.
Or if I hear that they are now doing 14 mile runs for fun, not just hiking in the hills.
"Recruits must be Royal Marines Commandos with at least three years service. They will have started off their careers with the 30-week initial stint at the Commando Training Centre or the 15-month Young Officers Course, mostly at the same establishment. Later they may have had further training in signals, heavy weapons, sniping etc. Those wishing to join the SBS must first go through a two-week aptitude test, which consists of the following:
Boating Week. Candidates must
pass a combat fitness test
pass the SBS swimming test, which demands 600m in 15 minutes , 50m clothed with weapon and belt kit, and 25m underwater.
Complete all canoe trials, including a 5km march with Bergen and canoe and 30km canoe paddle.
Diving Week. Complete a number of dives, generally show confidence and willingness to dive.
Those successful will go on to the joint SAS/SBS selection course
Brecon Beacons phase (3 weeks)- land navigation marches with Bergen and weapon, culminating in " long drag". The majority who drop out will do so in this phase.
Pre-jungle training(2 weeks)- working in four-man patrols.
Jungle Training, Brunei (6 weeks).
Officer week/signals training (1 week).
Support Weapons Training (1 week).
Army Combat Survival Instructor Course (2 weeks)- survival, evasion, resistance, escape; well-known for its harsh Resistance To Interrogation training; the last phase where many will be " binned".
Continuation training takes place mainly at Hereford
Demolitions (2 weeks)
Observation Post Training (1 week)
CQB Course (2 weeks)
Individual Skills Courses (8 weeks)- during this time men will undergo training as Special Forces medics or signallers, or further demolitions training. Officers attend language training and a Special Forces commander's course.
Static Line Parachute Course (3 weeks)- for those who are not qualified paratroopers.
SBS students go on to their own 8-week boating and diving course, including underwater navigation and demolition, negotiating surf zones and navigating a 55km course in the Klepper canoe, and infiltration via submarine. Following this Marines are rated as Swimmer Canoeist Class 3, and entitled to wear the badge of this specialist qualification on the left cuff of their blue and green dress uniforms, " SC" over a wreath."
Originally posted by vincere7
All this talk about who is the best trained is crap. It comes down to one thing and one thing only. How a man handles himself in combat. I have sparred with Spetsnaz fighters and they are good combat fighters but this means nothing if I am hosing you down with an M4. If it comes down to a knife fight or hand 2 hand anyone will be brutal to survive and who can say who will win?