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posted on Dec, 7 2003 @ 02:57 AM
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i would just like to send my thoughts too all of the

Pearl harbour veterins,and to all of the widows and families of the people who died.

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also i would like to ask if anyone thinks there was a coverup of prior knowlegde by the United states gov about the attack on pearl harbour on December 7, 1941




posted on Dec, 7 2003 @ 03:15 AM
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Also remember that Radar station officer that told not to intercept the intruders that were dedected on radar before the attack begun..

Also remember that US gov that had Japanese codes broken and communications intercepted and that knew the date and the place of the comming Japanese attack days before it happened..

Remember the victims of treason commited by these!




posted on Dec, 7 2003 @ 12:39 PM
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They didnt know about the attack you dickhead. Dont you think they would have stopped it otherwise? And it was only the Purple cipher they cracked, which was diplomatic.



posted on Dec, 7 2003 @ 12:44 PM
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Now..

Dont get offensive..

I only stated the facts..

Reason why they didnt do nothing about that was because:

US needed a reason to join the ww2 as a victim.




posted on Dec, 7 2003 @ 12:47 PM
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that Roosevelt DID know about the attack, and he wanted it to happen, so we Americans would get off our duffs and become involved with the war. Roosevelt knew that we, as a nation were still having the isolation state of mind, and that we had to do something about the Nazi threat.

Roosevelt felt that the only way we would do something is by allowing the Japanese to attack Pearl Harbor. As I recall, there was something about the Japanese even having notified the New York Post (or something), and that there was a hidden message in that morning's crossword puzzle.

Yes, we should remember that day. But as was said, let us not forget that it was a day of suicide. At least it got America moving.



posted on Dec, 7 2003 @ 12:53 PM
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Originally posted by DeltaNine
Dont you think they would have stopped it otherwise?


Hehehehehehe....so naive...That's almost cute.

But as Fulcrum said, no reason to get offensive. If you can't handle discussion without ressorting to name calling, well don't join in.



posted on Dec, 7 2003 @ 12:57 PM
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In a court of law Fulcrum....
Your "facts" wouldn't hold water.....



regards
seekerof



posted on Dec, 7 2003 @ 01:03 PM
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Originally posted by Seekerof
In a court of law Fulcrum....
Your "facts" wouldn't hold water.....



regards
seekerof


You know as well as i, that what i said is the truht.



Your just mad to me (and bitting that lipp still..) over that bs i posted about you..



Sorry


And btw,

a court of law did set O.J. Simpson free..




posted on Dec, 7 2003 @ 01:12 PM
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No Fulcrum....You are asserting what you deem to be "facts".

What you need to really be doing is backing up your assertions and your thinking that your "right", with hard facts and proofs. Anyone can can make assertions by using bits and pieces of historical evidences.

WHat is happening here is the same-o-same-o in that people are asserting thier "facts" as the real thing....provide the "proofs"......and not from a 'conspiracy related' site......use real historical evidences to prove your "facts" as truth.
As I see it....your "proofs" are lacking and amount to nothing but assertions.

Oh, and Fulcrum....no, I'm not mad.....but I did learn a valuable lesson from you......your "facts" need to be checked as being real facts.

Assertions are not facts and definitely not "hard" facts.


regards
seekerof



posted on Dec, 7 2003 @ 01:18 PM
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Originally posted by Seekerof
No Fulcrum....You are asserting what you deem to be "facts".

Anyone can can make assertions by using bits and pieces of historical evidences.



Aren't "pieces of historical evidence" facts?



posted on Dec, 7 2003 @ 01:18 PM
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BTW Fulcrum:
Here is my facts and they discuss your assertions:

"The Myths of Pearl Harbor."
Link:
www.ibiblio.org...

And:

"The PEARL HARBOR ATTACK HEARINGS"
Link:
www.ibiblio.org...




regards
seekerof



posted on Dec, 7 2003 @ 01:20 PM
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Actually this question is a bit off topic, my great crime at ATS, mind you I have said more by saying less in this fashion than anyone else around here btw,

what I find interesting about WWII and somebody could make a thread on this one is this:

the monarchy in England was supposed to be closet Nazi supporters according to some but in the end they became bitter enemies. Does this make sense? Was events on mainland Europe portrayed accurately? The Queen and monarchists in Europe are supposed to be masonic and satanists and were they not above Hitler? Did Hitler turn on them in the end or did the darkside turn on its own or both?

I always wondered about this seems not an obvious question. I mean we know what happened and it is generally believed that Hitler lost it but he was rumoured under control of the forces of darkness. Why was the US dragged into the war via Pearl Harbour to stop Hitler when Masons controlled the US? Why did the US stop at the end of the war and not advance into Moscow or Lenningrad?



posted on Dec, 7 2003 @ 01:20 PM
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soothsayer:
"Aren't "pieces of historical evidence" facts?"

Not when they are taken out of context, as related to historical facts and events.


regards
seekerof

[Edited on 7-12-2003 by Seekerof]



posted on Dec, 7 2003 @ 01:20 PM
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Originally posted by Seekerof

Oh, and Fulcrum....no, I'm not mad.....but I did learn a valuable lesson from you......your "facts" need to be checked as being real facts.

Assertions are not facts and definitely not "hard" facts.


regards
seekerof




That was kinda the point there..

Shame on me for beign lazy nowdays and not doing so..

Maybe i should start again..

So we would have less bs and more HARD FACTS.. (from the start that is.. lets face always in the end.. we find the real truht!)



But still..

US gov. knew.

Nothing more to it.

Just like with ww1..

US claimed that U-boat sunk a civilian ship.. and that was a massacre.. (got a reason to join in..)

Facts have proven that besides carrying passanger the frocking USS Housatonic was carrying full cargo of weapons!!!




posted on Dec, 7 2003 @ 01:21 PM
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Originally posted by Seekerof
soothsayer:
"Aren't "pieces of historical evidence" facts?"

Not when they are taken out of context, as related to historical facts.


regards
seekerof


This makes no sense?




posted on Dec, 7 2003 @ 01:24 PM
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Added "events" in my edit John.



regards
seekerof



posted on Dec, 7 2003 @ 01:26 PM
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Originally posted by Seekerof
BTW Fulcrum:
Here is my facts and they discuss your assertions:

"The Myths of Pearl Harbor."
Link:
www.ibiblio.org...

And:



"The PEARL HARBOR ATTACK HEARINGS"
Link:
www.ibiblio.org...




regards
seekerof


Those were interesting sites. But I have a question. Where were those B-17's coming from? Alaska?



posted on Dec, 7 2003 @ 01:29 PM
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Please dont post!



(Go to Leningrad and Moscow.. WTF!?!)




posted on Dec, 7 2003 @ 01:31 PM
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Fulcrum,

again you prove that a narrow mind causes the greatest harm not only to one's self but to all others.



posted on Dec, 7 2003 @ 01:36 PM
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Originally posted by THENEO
Fulcrum,

again you prove that a narrow mind causes the greatest harm not only to one's self but to all others.




Dont get me even started..

Originally posted by THENEO
Why did the US stop at the end of the war and not advance into Moscow or Lenningrad?


What kind of stupid ass guestion is this?

USSR and USA were friends..

And anyhow,

USA would have been so mauled if had it tryed to do something like this..

That you Neo would have been born into a family talking Russian.






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