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reply posted on 30-1-2007 @ 02:40 PM by St Udio
this story might interest you Gazrok,


"The Phoenix Lights Investigative Faux Pas !"

Monday , January 29, 2007.....by Mike Fortson

frankwarren.blogspot.com...

(patience....,
the sites server takes 20+ seconds to load...even with a high speed connection)



the author addresses the 'problem' of the dozens/scores/hundreds
of witnesses, all over AZ & NV, having not been 'debriefed' or sought
out for their accounts of the daytime & late evening events & observations
of the large V-shape, chevron shape, UFO that slowly traversed the State.

the late night, controversial, string of 'lights', appearing in a 2 dimensional
frame which includes a city skyline in darkness & background mountain range.


just a heads up.....

[edit on 30-1-2007 by St Udio]



reply posted on 3-3-2007 @ 11:14 PM by tomlevine1
Gazrok, this is an amazing thread on The Phoenix Lights phenomenon. Thank you sincerely for putting this all together.

I know this question was asked earlier in the thread. I may have missed the answer. Have there been any other videos that captured the 1st sighting, prior to the larger apparent/alleged "flares" sighting above the mountain range?

I reviewed Dr. Lynne's websitewww.thephoenixlights.net..., though I have not read her book yet, but it appears that she's presented some compelling photos which appear to be classic Black Triangles above the Phoenix area, pre-dated prior to the 3-13-97 event.

Has any corroborating evidence been gathered to bolster Dr. Lynne's photographic evidence? Any other photos or videos of the "apparent/alleged" flares sighting? Any other circumstantial evidence beyond testimony to support Dr. Lynne's position?

If additional evidence has been gathered to bolster Dr. Lynne's position, than it would tend to make me personally give some second thoughts to the flare explanation, which I've concluded is an extremely reasonable explanation to that event.

If there is/was indeed a black triangle flying above Arizona on that night, and if the black triangle was black-ops of one kind or another, then I would think flares would be a pretty good slight-of-hand distraction which would lead the publics' attention away from the real event that transpired that night. Such a slight of hand could be pulled off without the National Guard who dropped the flares, even knowing what their involvement was in the big picture.

Back to my question: Can anyone direct us to other specific links to videos and photos of black triangles or other UAP's which pre-date the otherwise well known 3-13-07 Phoenix Lights?



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reply posted on 2-9-2008 @ 07:13 PM by Anonymous ATS
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doens't the control tower in phoenix have a radar? did they witness anything?? has anyone asked them??? I mean, if you're job is air traffic control, wouldn't you be the one to know exactly how big, how fast and which direction something is moving through the sky??


reply posted on 7-11-2008 @ 12:38 AM by Anonymous ATS
reply to post by Barn


I live in big river cali.about 8 miles from parker ariz. probably 2 hrs. or so north of phoenix. And I dont know if u guys have found out anything else about the possible cause of the lights but ive lived here for 6 yrs and ive seen those exact style lights probably 30 different times over the years.
My whole family and alot of my friends have seen them several times.The lights are kinda far and only last a few seconds apiece,they are always orange and never the same distance apart or in the same formation.It usually starts w/ 1 then follows this general pattern (but not so much lately)1-1-1-1-then when the fifth one appears,the first disapears and so on. The explanation they gave me WAS flares for supposed search and rescue training but ive had a few friends that are ex military look at them when they occoured and they agreed that they were not flares.Last night i seen them again but not like usual,this time there were 30 or so in a very strange pattern almost like a giant disc of sorts.Strange huh?
btw if people are still interested, or have a real explanation,or any questions go ahead and email me at : -SNIP-
or maybe ill keep tabs on this forum for a while and see if anyone replys
Thankz XViciousX

[mod edit to remove email address]


[edit on 11/7/2008 by yeahright]


reply posted on 30-11-2008 @ 11:58 PM by RING0
The Phoenix event is one of the most misunderstood and important sightings in recent history. Almost 100% of the Coast to Coast and "UFO nut" crowd believes that the second 10:00 pm sighting to be a UFO and not flares, even though most of the evidence points against that conclusion. It is good to see this one addressed again, especially regarding the earlier more exciting event involving a gigantic craft slowly moving across the night sky that night. A truly extraordinary sighting, witnessed by hundreds, if not thousands of people, including the Governor of the state! With all of the high quality evidence about the first earlier event, why does anyone bother with the latter Flares event?

The answer is twofold, first there is the eyewitnesses of the flares, (and the videographers), they saw something they could not (at first), explain, and were naturally excited at having been involved with a major event, they felt that they were part of a well documented and dramatic UFO encounter. Their reactions are understandable and even predictable.

The second factor contributing to the misinformation is the various news and documentary medias involved in reporting of the event. Without variance, any and all footage of the event show the second sighting of the flares as possible UFO(s) in the sky that night. Some even declare that the triangle shapes seen in the flare formations are proof of a craft. Producers of these shows know that a visual medium such as Television needs to have some sort of depiction of the Phoenix lights, and the video taken of the flares is relatively sharp and clear compared to the scratchy and grainy footage of the real craft seen earlier that night. That is the main reason that the myth has been reinforced over and over again.

I have a couple of YouTube videos that have some interesting takes on the situation, this first one from Nightline shows some interesting information.



This one shows The lights to be behind the mountains.



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