Originally posted by Canada_EH
No one has anserwed the 2nd part of my question. why does Aus feel they need the bomb truck role? I guess its the question of why did they have the
f-111 in the first place? And if there is that need how do YOU think it is different then Canada's?
I got a question that may sound a lil weird. Why do the Aussies think they need this stop gap measure? if they are currently upgrading their 18's
much like CF are doing and not looking into interm solution what makes Aus situation so diff?
The only answer that enters my mind is geographically being in a more volitile enviorment. Oh and also is the 18's endurance that hampered that it
can't fill the maritime portal gap?
That is what you said. ASST/ASUW 'in the approaches' is _not_ bomb trucking. The value and number of shots vs. targets is vastly different as are
the standoff ranges and Gate timings and even sanitization for civillian marine traffic.
Furthermore, even though the 111 is nominally the aircraft being retired, the F/A-18E/F would likely be purchased (as the boys' new toys if nothing
else) with the Air Supremacy role primarily in mind.
And with a combination of superior range (to the Bug-1, assuming dual wing tanks) and vastly superior sensors (in the ATFLIR/Terminator and APG-79) as
well as the ability to buddy drag it's predecessor forward without the cost of a dedicated tanker, 24 F/A-18E/F do more for the CFO/MFFC mission as
fighter directors and strike tankers than they do as 'bomb trucks' anyway.
Given you release anywhere from 15 to 35 Bug-1s from the fleet (the tiredest, without HUG) and buy 24 new jets on the condition of free integration
with the GBU-38/BRU-55 or GBU-39/BRU-61 for the remaining legacy Hornets; you still come out ahead using the big jets to push forward the little ones
with 4 or 8 bombs. Because there will still be 50 or so Bug 1s and 50X2X2 (airframes/pylons/VER loaded bombs) = 200 aimpoints per mission vs.
probably only about 15X4+2 or 90 for the Bug Deux (the rest being configured to SEAD, Whale or AAW as well as backups) as strikers.
As for a difference between conops and theater types, what it comes down to is the Australians think it is worthwhile to maintain an offensive strike
option relative to Jakarta as the 'regional super power and it's designated kicking dog proof of prowess'.
Canada rarely leaves her own back yard for real wars and especially since quitting BadSol and the NATO mission, has dedicated 90% of her fighter
mission training as 'pure' Air Defense within the NORAD/anti-smuggling role environment. For which odd pairs of jets here and there are more than
sufficient compared to a full up strike package.
Both jets are twins, both regions are desolate with relatively few fields (though Canada likely puts Oz to shame for total civillian airports that
could be used in emergency).
But Australias mission set includes 'a real and proven' (ET) need for long-overwater strike operations as a principle doctrinal warfighter element.
Canada does not.
Let me further state that, given it does not face another LO opponent, I would, by far, rather have 5-7 LRAAM and two ARMs/decoys in the BVR purist
sniper role than come in sneaky-peteing with only X2 internal MRM shots and/or a pylon mounted force component which immediately renders half my F-35
fleet into full signature jets. And a quarter more into their shotgun escorts.
F/A-18E/F with saturation AIM-120D will beat the Su-27/30. F/A-18C with Meteor will beat the Su-27/30. F-35 with X2 AIM-120D will beat the Su-27/30
only if it has the numbers and/or 'pure' (not tied to a conventional strike force) fight geometry is available to work the threat sensor cones and
get in for the optimum pole shot. If you can't get AIM-120D, you're screwed no matter what.
Wedgetail helps here of course. As do the largely microforce inventory numbers involved with Indonesia and Malaysia as principle Air Threats. But
the fact remains that an 800nm radii is going to buy you all of 1-1.5 sorties per day, depending on your flight and ramp reserves and the competency
of your aircrews to do the night-intruder mission with a small second raidforce of their own.
As such and even allowing that ou are working with 1-bomb-1-aimpoint small-IAMs (where targeting is as important as total munition counts) you still
need to maximize the the number of pylons going out on the first as only mass raid. So that the threat is fully defanged by the time you switch back
to conventional penny-packet groups after FDOW.
And that doesn't happen with the Super Bug as a 'bomb truck'. Not at 24 airframes... It gets easier if you specialize it as a mini-Raptor strike
coordinator and director node while keeping munitions light and mission-limited for pylon variety.