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Mil Mi-28 Havoc or Kamov KA-50 Hokum ?

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posted on Nov, 15 2002 @ 04:47 AM
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Mi-28







KA-50 Hokum














posted on Nov, 15 2002 @ 06:40 PM
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The Hokum, looks meaner



posted on Nov, 20 2002 @ 01:21 PM
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By far the KA-50, it rules...
Check out the page that I wrote about it;
www.air-attack.com...



posted on Nov, 20 2002 @ 11:25 PM
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They're both good machines: the Hokum is certainly much more interesting technically: this contra-axial counter-rotationg set-up with no need for a tail-rotor is a pretty effective piece of engineering (one hopes) and the single-seater nature does make it rather more like a "fighter" of old.
It apparently has a very advanced ejector-seat system also.
I'm not sure any helicopter comes across as very "mean" to me -unless it's against relatively weak air-defences: it's a miracle any of them flies, given the aeronautics (torque, pitch, yaw etc.) and they always strike me as very vulnerable targets.
But -in the right scenario -very effective ground-attack machines.
I'm not sure if the Hokum has been put into the field yet (limited service perhaps).



posted on Dec, 19 2002 @ 06:31 AM
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Zion, I found Ka-50 MPEG's. May be you can take them for your website ?

MPEG_01 ( In Flight )

MPEG_02 ( Using it's missiles )

MPEG_03 ( Using a gun )



posted on Dec, 19 2002 @ 10:34 AM
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One thing to note, thought: last photo is not a Ka-50, but a Ka-52, the two seats Hokum version. I could never understood why they choose a side-by-side configuration for this one... They are both gunners?

[Edit]: I have preference for the aircraft which artistic impression I use as avatar...
[edited again]It was a Boeing X-50 Dragonfly, i changed it due size constraints.


BTW, Zion Mainframe, nice page, but too personal for my tastes...


[Edited on 2002-12-20 by MakodFilu]



posted on Dec, 19 2002 @ 10:51 AM
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Originally posted by MakodFilu

1) One thing to note, thought: last photo is not a Ka-50, but a Ka-52, the two seats Hokum version. I could never understood why they choose a side-by-side configuration for this one...

2) They are both gunners?


1) Yes, it's a KA-52, and not a KA-50. Thanks. It was really an horrible mistake and I have to be sentenced to death, specialy cuz I knew it.


2) Yep. One gunner for the left-gun, and another one gunner for the right-gun.Like this, they can fired, both of them, and nobody is jealous. These Russians are really gentlemen, isn't it ?



posted on Dec, 19 2002 @ 11:38 AM
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LOL

-Huh, comrade...
--Hummm! Yes?
-If you are firing... and I am firing... Who is piloting?
--Uh oh...
-Aghhh!!!



posted on Dec, 20 2002 @ 07:29 AM
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Originally posted by MakodFilu

-If you are firing... and I am firing... Who is piloting?


Heu ? Well, good question. I don't know !? The auto-pilot may be ?



posted on Aug, 16 2003 @ 05:02 PM
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I would say that Ka-50 Hokum is better.. Hell it is BEST.. least untill the EUROCOPTER TIGER enters service..


And Cobra is maybe best (better..) US Gunship..

But Still Mi-24 Hind is most feared.. has more firepower than medium size third world country..



posted on Aug, 16 2003 @ 05:11 PM
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I think the Mi-28 is pretty good. It looks mean, mean and ugly.



posted on Aug, 18 2003 @ 03:38 AM
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...NOTHING TO CONTEST ABOUT THAT.



posted on Aug, 18 2003 @ 09:36 AM
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RAH-66 is going to be pretty good.



posted on Aug, 18 2003 @ 07:41 PM
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NATO member: Turkey is buying 50 KA-50's from Russia.
hehe

regards
seekerof



posted on Aug, 18 2003 @ 07:49 PM
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Originally posted by jetsetter
RAH-66 is going to be pretty good.


RAH-66 is a SCOUT HELICOPTER..
Not a full grown GUNSHIP..


Seekerof.. do you have any facts about Turkey buying those Kamovs? I thought that under US / ISRAELI pressure they abbandoned that plan and setteled for some AH-1 Ws..



posted on Aug, 19 2003 @ 05:52 AM
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i think the anti aircraft missiles is my choice and still the best,i call the stinger american quality i m proud of

just a soft joke no harm here



posted on Aug, 19 2003 @ 02:11 PM
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Dude on the left is pilot and the one on the right is gunner, there is a gun on the right side, no gun on the left side. The two seater Ka-52 was originally for training purposes, but then flying the chopper alone made it harder than with two pilots.



posted on Aug, 19 2003 @ 02:46 PM
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Originally posted by Uninen

Originally posted by jetsetter
RAH-66 is going to be pretty good.


RAH-66 is a SCOUT HELICOPTER..
Not a full grown GUNSHIP..


Seekerof.. do you have any facts about Turkey buying those Kamovs? I thought that under US / ISRAELI pressure they abbandoned that plan and setteled for some AH-1 Ws..



Uninen.....come on, you know better than that....

My mistake though...its not 50 its 145...
therussiajournal.com...

pub137.ezboard.com...
(may load slow..be patient)

regards
seekerof







[Edited on 19-8-2003 by Seekerof]



posted on Aug, 19 2003 @ 02:50 PM
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What can the other Attack helicopters do that the RAH-66 cant do? Hmmmmm



posted on Aug, 20 2003 @ 03:28 PM
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carry more weapons and look cooler



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