Mil Mi-28 Havoc or Kamov KA-50 Hokum ?

Mi-28







KA-50 Hokum

The Hokum, looks meaner

By far the KA-50, it rules...
Check out the page that I wrote about it;
www.air-attack.com...

They're both good machines: the Hokum is certainly much more interesting technically: this contra-axial counter-rotationg set-up with no need for a tail-rotor is a pretty effective piece of engineering (one hopes) and the single-seater nature does make it rather more like a "fighter" of old.
It apparently has a very advanced ejector-seat system also.
I'm not sure any helicopter comes across as very "mean" to me -unless it's against relatively weak air-defences: it's a miracle any of them flies, given the aeronautics (torque, pitch, yaw etc.) and they always strike me as very vulnerable targets.
But -in the right scenario -very effective ground-attack machines.
I'm not sure if the Hokum has been put into the field yet (limited service perhaps).

Zion, I found Ka-50 MPEG's. May be you can take them for your website ?

MPEG_01 ( In Flight )

MPEG_02 ( Using it's missiles )

MPEG_03 ( Using a gun )

One thing to note, thought: last photo is not a Ka-50, but a Ka-52, the two seats Hokum version. I could never understood why they choose a side-by-side configuration for this one... They are both gunners?

[Edit]: I have preference for the aircraft which artistic impression I use as avatar... [edited again]It was a Boeing X-50 Dragonfly, i changed it due size constraints.

BTW, Zion Mainframe, nice page, but too personal for my tastes...

[Edited on 2002-12-20 by MakodFilu]

Originally posted by MakodFilu

1) One thing to note, thought: last photo is not a Ka-50, but a Ka-52, the two seats Hokum version. I could never understood why they choose a side-by-side configuration for this one...

2) They are both gunners?

1) Yes, it's a KA-52, and not a KA-50. Thanks. It was really an horrible mistake and I have to be sentenced to death, specialy cuz I knew it.

2) Yep. One gunner for the left-gun, and another one gunner for the right-gun.Like this, they can fired, both of them, and nobody is jealous. These Russians are really gentlemen, isn't it ?

LOL

-Huh, comrade...
--Hummm! Yes?
-If you are firing... and I am firing... Who is piloting?
--Uh oh...
-Aghhh!!!

Originally posted by MakodFilu

-If you are firing... and I am firing... Who is piloting?

Heu ? Well, good question. I don't know !? The auto-pilot may be ?

I would say that Ka-50 Hokum is better.. Hell it is BEST.. least untill the EUROCOPTER TIGER enters service..

And Cobra is maybe best (better..) US Gunship..

But Still Mi-24 Hind is most feared.. has more firepower than medium size third world country..

I think the Mi-28 is pretty good. It looks mean, mean and ugly.

...NOTHING TO CONTEST ABOUT THAT.

RAH-66 is going to be pretty good.

NATO member: Turkey is buying 50 KA-50's from Russia. hehe

regards
seekerof

Originally posted by jetsetter
RAH-66 is going to be pretty good.

RAH-66 is a SCOUT HELICOPTER.. Not a full grown GUNSHIP..

Seekerof.. do you have any facts about Turkey buying those Kamovs? I thought that under US / ISRAELI pressure they abbandoned that plan and setteled for some AH-1 Ws..

i think the anti aircraft missiles is my choice and still the best,i call the stinger american quality i m proud of
just a soft joke no harm here

Dude on the left is pilot and the one on the right is gunner, there is a gun on the right side, no gun on the left side. The two seater Ka-52 was originally for training purposes, but then flying the chopper alone made it harder than with two pilots.

Originally posted by Uninen

Originally posted by jetsetter
RAH-66 is going to be pretty good.

RAH-66 is a SCOUT HELICOPTER..

Not a full grown GUNSHIP..

Seekerof.. do you have any facts about Turkey buying those Kamovs? I thought that under US / ISRAELI pressure they abbandoned that plan and setteled for some AH-1 Ws..

Uninen.....come on, you know better than that....
My mistake though...its not 50 its 145...
therussiajournal.com...

pub137.ezboard.com...
(may load slow..be patient)

regards
seekerof







[Edited on 19-8-2003 by Seekerof]

What can the other Attack helicopters do that the RAH-66 cant do? Hmmmmm

carry more weapons and look cooler