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posted on Dec, 6 2003 @ 07:05 PM
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Can we have some pictures please? If possible....



posted on Dec, 6 2003 @ 07:14 PM
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hmm that may be it he said they were along the guts of the ship ( were all the piping is ) and that no one was to go near it or touch it his formen said it was from lanl and it freaked everyone out. i wish he would tell me what he was doing in alaska but thanks that sounds great



posted on Dec, 6 2003 @ 07:18 PM
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Right that was the design purpose, but it was only incorporated into several exp. submarines before they took it out of them for re-design.



posted on Dec, 6 2003 @ 07:19 PM
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I don't have any pictures yet. I'll try to get some next time I go to work.



posted on Dec, 6 2003 @ 07:21 PM
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Does your father still do work for the Government? If so, then what is his name because I do have access to a Federal Employee Record Database so I could probably find out what he does.



posted on Dec, 6 2003 @ 07:22 PM
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what do u know about ion propulsion ?? anything besides what websites post is it the future of space propulsion or are we going to go nuclear propulsion



posted on Dec, 6 2003 @ 07:24 PM
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he doesnt work for goverent sub contractors any longer he quit that after alaska i dunno why maybe its because of what he did there.



posted on Dec, 6 2003 @ 07:28 PM
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I would say Nuclear. Nuclear power is much more efficient, and easier to dispose of in space. Some problems though is that to create a nuclear reaction in space, with the power needed to propell a craft, we would have to create an artificial environment to set of the nuclear reaction, then a good way to prevent energy loss from heat. I belive that over 85% of Nuclear energy is lost due to extream heat. If we could stop most of the heat, we could use it to go faster, and use less nuclear material.



posted on Dec, 6 2003 @ 07:32 PM
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Well, I have to get to sleep because I have to get up at 7:00 tomarow for work and I still have to finish my column for NY Times that will be posted soon. I'll try to get on tomarrow.

Sincerly,
Dr. Bieniek
Los Alamos Laboratory



posted on Dec, 6 2003 @ 07:35 PM
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I believe David is a Spy or he is yanking our chain

Read one of his other post from another forum:

Base's

I wonder if anyone here would have information on Area 51's security procedures? Oh yes, and TyphonSix, this site has a very interesting section on the dulce facility, Thats the one in New Mexico Right?

Thanks for any help,
David Bieniek


If he does work at LA I don't think we would advertise it



posted on Dec, 6 2003 @ 08:29 PM
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Well, I didn't say exactly what I knew in my FIRST post and I wanted to see what everyone else new. I have a Phd in Aerospace Physics and I gratuated from Emory University in 1979. I am 54 years old and work for LANL. My ZNumber is Z50134.

[Edited on 6-12-2003 by DavidBieniek]



posted on Dec, 6 2003 @ 08:44 PM
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David. I don't know how legitamite you are, but since you claim to have worked at the Los Alamos National Laboratory, perhaps you can clarify something for ATS concerning Bob White's ET artifact that he had analyzed over the at Materials, Science, and Technology Division there by Dr. Reiswick.

Dr. Reiswick originally claimed Bob White's artifact was definitely extraterrestrial in origin, but later recanted and declared it an unknown object of uknown origin. I think I have the story straight. What do you know of this? Anything at all to solve this dilemma is helpful to the cause of getting extraterrestrial information out.

If you haven't heard of this, and I can't imagine you haven't heard of it, look at www.hardevidence.com... for the subject I am discussing.

[Edited on 6-12-2003 by heelstone]



posted on Dec, 6 2003 @ 08:48 PM
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Do you still have the Dr.'s report? If so I can look at the report and compare it with things in LANL's Database. Please send any copy of the report to [email protected], or send it to

Dr. Bieniek
Aerospace/Physics
int.lanl



posted on Dec, 6 2003 @ 08:51 PM
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After looking at it, I do remember something about it. I have a few reports that I found I could send you. What is your e-mail address. They are in .doc format. I have 3 reports about the object for you. 1 of which is classified.
I'll send them tomarrow.

Dr. Bieniek



posted on Dec, 6 2003 @ 08:54 PM
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Ah yes... the good doctor has much to share, eh? If he's playing it straight, everyone has to realize that by posting here - using a pseudonym, hopefully- that he might just be jepordizing his life. However, if he is yanking our chain, than he is the worst kind of traitor.

I have my own questions for you, Herr Doctor:

1. Do you know of any alternate entrances to Dulce?

2. Could you make a log of those seen entering/ exiting Dulce for us, svp?

3. what provoked you to post of ATS? Your motives, if you will?

And, as an afternote, could you please post said dicuments for all to see?

DE

[Edited on 6-12-2003 by DeusEx]



posted on Dec, 6 2003 @ 08:56 PM
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Originally posted by DavidBieniek
After looking at it, I do remember something about it. I have a few reports that I found I could send you. What is your e-mail address. They are in .doc format. I have 3 reports about the object for you. 1 of which is classified.
I'll send them tomarrow.

Dr. Bieniek
You can send me them at
[email protected]

I'm not sure how old word .DOC files could help regarding this subject, but I will review them to make a determination.



posted on Dec, 6 2003 @ 08:56 PM
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Originally posted by DavidBieniek
My name is David Bieniek,
I hold a position and a limited Security Clearance at Los Alamos Laboratory. There is only one entrance from LANL to Dulce and it is a 6 inch thick, about 8 ft. tall steel door. There is a gate in front of the door that one of the guards open for people authorized to enter. While I don't have the clearance to enter the facility, I have seen inside that gate one time. A man by the name of Dr. James Taylor walked through with a security escort, and briefly I saw the inside. All I saw was another bright gray door slide open, and then a silver looking elavator shaft. Then the exteior door shut and security gave me a strange look. I know it goes to Dulce as it says (most noteably like an airport terminal) Gate 1 to DULCE in bright blue lettering. Next to it are a group of 8 numbers consisting of 0's and 1's only. I could probably get a few pictures of it, although they don't allow cameras near the gate. I am, however authorized to carry one through LANL directly to the section by the terminal as I work in the Aerospace Physics Division. I will try to get some pictures if I can. Shortly, I will be writing an article about Aerospace Technologies in the New York Times, and I am going to make it a point to mention this web site, and some of the things I read here.

Respectfully,
Dr. David Bieniek
Los Alamos National Laboratory


I think you're lieing. If you are, take this into thought.



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posted on Dec, 6 2003 @ 09:01 PM
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I agree with Dues Ex... someone who would send CLASSIFIED documents over e-mail... would be jailed/executed. The Govt would have the Dr's computer log checked frequently, incase of instances like this.



posted on Dec, 6 2003 @ 09:15 PM
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Interesting, I would also like to see these docs and pics.


Post them here when they become available.


I agree that, ...anyone even with a limited security clearance for such facilities, definetly knows what they are doing, and/or risking, when the voice goes public.

So I think,... fake and fake-out, ....true but here for an alternate reason or dis-information or distraction, and publically,.... true and the good doctor does/or doesnt know the issues related to a security breech.

I have to go with my first guess, based on gut feeling.

DavidBieniek....
Would you have any links to other articles you have had published in the past?



posted on Dec, 6 2003 @ 09:23 PM
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Originally posted by GODFLESH
I agree with Dues Ex... someone who would send CLASSIFIED documents over e-mail... would be jailed/executed. The Govt would have the Dr's computer log checked frequently, incase of instances like this.
I don't think the documents he is referring to would need to be classified. Its metallurgical analysis, not a national secret.



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