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Topic started on 6-12-2003 @ 03:18 PM by GODFLESH


Ive read alot about Dulce base... im extremely interested in it. Yet I can't find any consistent information that is somewhat credible. How was this base come to light? Is it made up? Real? Any pictures of the surface areas like they have of Area 51? Anything at all?


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reply posted on 6-12-2003 @ 05:02 PM by DavidBieniek


My name is David Bieniek,
I hold a position and a limited Security Clearance at Los Alamos Laboratory. There is only one entrance from LANL to Dulce and it is a 6 inch thick, about 8 ft. tall steel door. There is a gate in front of the door that one of the guards open for people authorized to enter. While I don't have the clearance to enter the facility, I have seen inside that gate one time. A man by the name of Dr. James Taylor walked through with a security escort, and briefly I saw the inside. All I saw was another bright gray door slide open, and then a silver looking elavator shaft. Then the exteior door shut and security gave me a strange look. I know it goes to Dulce as it says (most noteably like an airport terminal) Gate 1 to DULCE in bright blue lettering. Next to it are a group of 8 numbers consisting of 0's and 1's only. I could probably get a few pictures of it, although they don't allow cameras near the gate. I am, however authorized to carry one through LANL directly to the section by the terminal as I work in the Aerospace Physics Division. I will try to get some pictures if I can. Shortly, I will be writing an article about Aerospace Technologies in the New York Times, and I am going to make it a point to mention this web site, and some of the things I read here.

Respectfully,
Dr. David Bieniek
Los Alamos National Laboratory



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reply posted on 6-12-2003 @ 05:05 PM by earthtone



Originally posted by DavidBieniek
I will be writing an article about Aerospace Technologies in the New York Times, and I am going to make it a point to mention this web site, and some of the things I read here.

Respectfully,
Dr. David Bieniek
Los Alamos National Laboratory



Interesting story you got there David. It would be amazing if you got some pictures up here of what you explained. ATS in the New York times? That would be cool.



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reply posted on 6-12-2003 @ 05:06 PM by WeBDeviL


Hm..interesting....thats some detailed stuff...sounds believable enough..

David: hehe don't forget to mention me eh eh

-wD



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reply posted on 6-12-2003 @ 05:10 PM by Kriskaos


hmm mr. DavidBieniek intresting first you are looking for info on area 51 which your writing an article for the NY times now you work at Los Alamos wow this keeps just getting better and better sorry for the skeptasisem



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reply posted on 6-12-2003 @ 06:13 PM by DavidBieniek


As I said before, I have a limited Clearance and I know far from everything that goes on there. I can get you some pictures of the entry terminal, but I don't have the clearance needed to get in. I will be happy to answer any questions you may have about me or my position at LANL.

Sincerly,
Dr. Bieniek
Los Alamos National Laboratory



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reply posted on 6-12-2003 @ 06:21 PM by Silk


Thank you for being so forthright Dr Bieniek -
always happy to discuss metters like this. In my reading about the DULCE base i was given to understand that people were weighed in and out of facility - now I know you dont have access - but arnt the same proceedures in place near the access points ?



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reply posted on 6-12-2003 @ 06:24 PM by DavidBieniek


Well, I have heard the same, but I have never seen them weigh the people before them entering. The time I saw a man enter the terminal, an officer verified his ID card, shined a light in his eyes, and then opened the gate.

Dr. Bieniek



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reply posted on 6-12-2003 @ 06:28 PM by Kriskaos


maybe a retnil scan ??? does everyone in los alamos have knowlegde of dulce



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reply posted on 6-12-2003 @ 06:29 PM by Silk


I guess that must happen inside the terminal then.

Thanks for the answer.

I have read a good deal on Dulce over the last few years - but didnt realise how far the network operated.

Nice to read some coroborating evidence that the place actually exists.

As for the sign by the door - 8 digits 0 and 1s ? were there any letters visible ?



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reply posted on 6-12-2003 @ 06:32 PM by DavidBieniek


Well, for the most part yes. Although we don't all know as much as the next person. I would say as a roughguess about 99.00% of the employees know, the ones who don't would include:

Exterior Security
Custodians

I hope this has been of some help. If you have any questions I would be happy to answer them.

Dr. David Bieniek
Los Alamos Laboratory



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reply posted on 6-12-2003 @ 06:35 PM by Kriskaos


which department do you work at lanl and what is your knowledge of the dulce facility ?



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reply posted on 6-12-2003 @ 06:36 PM by DavidBieniek


No, I'm afraid not. I tried to remember everything that I could about that day (which happened 4 months ago), but I do recall that there weren't any letters on the terminal entry. But, I can get some pictures of the terminal to post here.

Dr. Bieniek



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reply posted on 6-12-2003 @ 06:39 PM by DavidBieniek


I work in the Aerospace Experimental Physics department. The only knowledge that I have is first hand experience, as I have seen the entry terminal. Most of the things I read on-line aren't to acurate, although they have never said anything about the entry terminal for the lab. I will try to post some pictures.

Dr. Bieniek



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reply posted on 6-12-2003 @ 06:49 PM by Kriskaos


what do you know abou the dulce facility and what can you share with us.???



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reply posted on 6-12-2003 @ 06:51 PM by DavidBieniek


I will share any and all information that I get. I don't know much about it exept I have read that it is an alien/bi-genetics lab. It is similar to LANL, although at LANL we don't have any aliens.



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reply posted on 6-12-2003 @ 06:53 PM by Kriskaos


that would be nice. i have friends that work at general dynamics ever hear of them ?



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reply posted on 6-12-2003 @ 06:54 PM by DavidBieniek


Yes, they are an Aerospace Manufacturer.



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reply posted on 6-12-2003 @ 07:00 PM by Kriskaos


my father worked for gd in the late 70 on the ohio class subs he worked on the cooling systems and said there were strange compartments on the sub that werent on the blueprints he said they were part of lanl later he was transfered to alaska to work on something but he never told us what. and he still works for the gorvenment now but not for any military contractor . do you know of any apps being developed at la for subs



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reply posted on 6-12-2003 @ 07:04 PM by DavidBieniek


The only program that I know of is called PowerShot and it is a weapon with 20 or so compartments and each of them contain a mico-nuclear charge. While alone they are harmless, but after they are fired they destroy everything in the imediate area, including the vessel itself. As far as I know they are in use on Intelligence Submarines as a last case scenario so their intell. is kept either safe, or destroyed. Hope this helped. Please let me know.



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