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Originally posted by Sun Matrix
You seem to have a date problem...........a century or two.
The Romans tried to kill all the Christians. They could not do so and merely took over the Christian movement. The Pontiffus Maximus of Rome, a worshipper of the sun(Satan) changed the day of worship from the Sabbath to SUNday.
Knowing how they are controlling your beliefs by their actions, maybe you should seek the truth of who Jesus the Messiah really is and the message that he brings.
Don't let them control you any longer........seek the TRUTH.
Originally posted by merky
Ok SM, here it is, recorded history.
"But in the same year as Constantine achieved supremacy(AD 324) over the empire (and effectively over the Christian church) the Christian faith itself suffered a grave crisis. Arianism, a heresy which challenged the church's view of God (the father) and Jesus (the son), was creating a serious divide in the church.Constantine called the famous Council of Nicaea which decided the definition of the Christian deity as the Holy Trinity, God the father, God the son and God the Holy Spirit.
Had Christianity previously been unclear about its message then the Council of Nicaea (together with a later council at Constantinople in 381 AD) created a clearly defined core belief. However, the nature of its creation - a council - and the diplomatically sensitive way in defining the formula, to many suggests the creed of the Holy Trinity to be rather a political construct between theologians and politicians rather than anything achieved by divine inspiration.
It is hence often sought that the Council of Nicaea represents the Christian church becoming a more wordly institution, moving away from its innocent beginnings in its ascent to power."
Another thing about this ....pontifex maximus (a title not a persons name)
The last to hold the title of pontifex maximus under the Roman Republic were Julius Caesar (62-44 BCE) and M. Aemilius Lepidus (44-12 BCE). After Lepidus the title passed to Augustus, and henceforth the title of pontifex maximus would be a prerogative of the emperor. It remained so until the 5th century when it passed to the Pope, who have used the title ever since.
Another thing about this ....pontifex maximus (a title not a persons name)
The last to hold the title of pontifex maximus under the Roman Republic were Julius Caesar (62-44 BCE) and M. Aemilius Lepidus (44-12 BCE). After Lepidus the title passed to Augustus, and henceforth the title of pontifex maximus would be a prerogative of the emperor. It remained so until the 5th century when it passed to the Pope, who have used the title ever since.
Originally posted by merky
First Council of Nicaea almost 400 years after Jesus died, decided by vote what was going to be taught to the people.
That basically set the course of the Catholic church. That still rules today. It boils down to who is in power over the people.
They also decided what is in the Bible and what is left out for your own sake.
Do they not still control you with fear??
Don't go to God...confess to your priest....that's the priest's job on Earth to instruct you.
I can't go on with this...it makes me sick to my gut....what a load of %%^&$%
BTW...before you ask for proof....it's all part of recorded Roman history. You do know the Roman's kept pretty good written records....correct?
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Originally posted by helen670
Constantine was not a Pontiff.
He was there to put an end to false truths .
63 BC - Gaius Julius Caesar
44 BC - Marcus Aemilius Lepidus
12 BC - Augustus
12 BC to 376 - Held by the Emperors
376 to present - Held by the Popes.
Originally posted by merky
BTW...before you ask for proof....it's all part of recorded Roman history. You do know the Roman's kept pretty good written records....correct?
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en.wikipedia.org...
Originally posted by merky
Fine, that's it, I'm done.........................................................next.
Originally posted by chissler
Originally posted by merky
Fine, that's it, I'm done.........................................................next.
Why give up? Why not work harder to prove something that you believe? Nobody is overly accepting of anything on ATS unless it is overtly supported with facts. Sometimes we look for more than a Wiki site.
Originally posted by merky
Your assumption that I only looked up one example is wrong. I put the Wiki site cause it was easy for me and I though that covered the subject well enough.
Originally posted by babloyi
I find it interesting that so many "fundementalist" Christians are ready to agree that Constantine was a pagan and the Council of Nicea was a farce, but then still go on with the idea that Jesus is the same as God.