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posted on Dec, 28 2006 @ 05:49 PM
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Originally posted by marg6043
We do not get anymore the letters that the government was sending to gulf war vets about the gulf war syndrome since they came to the conclusion that the link was not clear.


What letters? I never got anything from the gov about Gulf War Illness.

(BTW it was changed from syndrome to illness a couple of years ago)




posted on Dec, 28 2006 @ 06:29 PM
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Originally posted by ANOK
(BTW it was changed from syndrome to illness a couple of years ago)


I believe that they started two years before my husband retired back in 97 he got about three letters if I am no mistaken.

Today I was very surprise my husband have a copy of his medical records somewhere in his old military stuff, he is very good at keeping his stuff just in case.

Now I am going to dig into the tons of paper stuff he got in the Attic for those records and check to see if they are all in there.

He also told me that he did sign a document in which he was not to disclosure the nature of the injections and pills that he was given during his 18 months in the middle east.

Something that I am very surprised because after all this years this the first time he told me this.

Also he retired in 1998 but he doesn't have his last discharge certificate he was supposed to get it after ten years but now the rules has change and the government can still keep in file for duty.

That is new to me and even surprised him also.

I guess we learn new things everyday.

Now I got to look for those medical records


[edit on 28-12-2006 by marg6043]



posted on Dec, 29 2006 @ 02:17 AM
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Where they just general letters about GWI or personal?

What branch was he in, cause I'm thinking maybe they didn't send them to the Navy guys cause it's more recent that we started having symptoms, and much later when we realized it was GWI
We were all under the impression for yrs that only the guys on the ground could have GWI. But as we all now know that is not the case.



posted on Dec, 29 2006 @ 08:36 AM
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Originally posted by ANOK
Where they just general letters about GWI or personal?



While in duty he got them at his duty station, the standard military memo from his company.

The last one was received by mail i guess because he was retired already.

He was a Marine.



posted on Dec, 30 2006 @ 08:46 PM
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Works for me, BT uses Windows Media Player. I have WMP 11 so if you want to get it, download 11.



posted on Dec, 30 2006 @ 08:55 PM
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Originally posted by marg6043
While in duty he got them at his duty station, the standard military memo from his company.


Thanx Marg, I guess it was just sent to people who were still serving then, or even something more localised....



posted on Dec, 31 2006 @ 02:36 AM
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Originally posted by ANOK

Originally posted by marg6043
While in duty he got them at his duty station, the standard military memo from his company.


Thanx Marg, I guess it was just sent to people who were still serving then, or even something more localised....


One of my cousins was deployed with the Navy for Gulf War I (typical Navy ROTC style (GUNNO, VBSS, LEGAL,)) he has (to the best of mine/ his knowledge) no symptoms what so ever, and I am very close with him; but has received 3 or 4 "letters" asking for certain symptoms that developed after varying time frames within his service.

He always answers in the negative, but still odd that they would question a Naval Officer (Lieutenant JG at the time,) for something that seems to most so distant.


Something similar which I am willing to bet you are all interested in.

My Maternal Grandfather was an Intelligence Officer (1LT at the time) for USAF. (In so far as being stationed at Roswell in early 1948, family joke of my mom being an alien human hybrid, she was born in 1951, Roswell NM...don't read to much into it. Her response is that makes me 1/4 Alien )


He was earlier involved in observation of nuclear testing, and became bald in a family of thick hair to the grave. He continually filled out his military FAQ's. My Aunt, his daughter, died of Ovarian Cancer around 1991 (I was roughly 9 years old so I do not remember the exact date.) Despite being Retired the form amount grew exponentially after he reported that.

Food for thought.



posted on Dec, 31 2006 @ 03:24 AM
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^That is interesting, thanx...

So maybe the people who got letters, were people not given the vaccines?? Hmmmm....



posted on Dec, 31 2006 @ 09:24 AM
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Originally posted by ANOK

So maybe the people who got letters, were people not given the vaccines?? Hmmmm....


No, no, in my husband case he took the vaccine an sign disclosure papers for it.

The letters where no about asking him if he had any symptoms but to tell him of the investigation and allegations of people complaining about alleged symptoms.

And to inform him what the government was doing about it.



posted on Dec, 31 2006 @ 09:32 AM
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Originally posted by GT100FV
Depleted Uranium in its solid form isn't hazardous per se. After a DU round has been fired at something and it has broken up into small residue that can be inhaled, that's when it's a problem. It's the DU dust that reeks havoc, once it get internal. It's kind of like asbestos- if you don't inhale asbestos, it's not gonna cause cancer.



That's just like saying that a tiger isn't dangerous unless it bites you. In the cage, it's cool. But when it gets out! That's when it's lethal.

DU is dangerous. It is a weapon, for God's sake. Bullets = dangerous
Knife = dangerous Nuclear Bomb = dangerous DU = dangerous.



posted on Dec, 31 2006 @ 04:51 PM
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Originally posted by marg6043
No, no, in my husband case he took the vaccine an sign disclosure papers for it....


That's right you said that already sry. It's interesting the gov would send out letters about an illness they say doesn't exist. And inform ppl that they were doing what? Nothing!...lol

[edit on 31/12/2006 by ANOK]



posted on Dec, 31 2006 @ 05:13 PM
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I have studied biology with the OU, and as a matter of course, you are introduced to diseases, bacterial and viral infections, and seen photos of gangrenous limbs, or such-like in relation to the material you are studying. I have developed a strong stomach, as a result, and have come to be able to watch various medical operations without cringing too much, if I look at it from a laymens terms, but when I look at it from the medical perspective, or scientific perspective (clinically, rather than emotionally) I can watch operations on telly, and believe it or not was able to view the autopsy without so much as a squirm, as part of my study process.

However to see infants in highly mutated conditions would be enough to weaken even the strongest of stomaches. I can't see how anybody can look at those infants and not be affected. I was able to look at them without cringing, but I found it upsetting that they were mutated through depleted uranium.

Some of them looked less than human, bless them, and their sex was hard to determine. There was one poor little dear that had a symbiotic twin coming out of it's mouth. They were so mutated that the poor little dears were probably buried without so much as a name.



posted on Dec, 31 2006 @ 05:34 PM
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Rachel that is an ugly side of reality that no even our own government wants the American people to be exposed to.

That is why they keep in hidden everything they do that will have such devastating results on other human beings.

But still they do what they do because they can.



posted on Jan, 1 2007 @ 10:10 AM
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www.youtube.com...

There you can go see the full Beyond Treason video. It comes in three parts that each pick up right after the other. I suggest you view part one first and then two and three because you wouldn't understand the beggining if you didn't.



posted on Jan, 1 2007 @ 10:15 AM
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Just by accident, I found out that if you play Terminator II - Main Theme by Avoriaz at the same time as Beyond Treason trailer makes a really good background music.



posted on Jan, 1 2007 @ 10:15 AM
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Just by accident, I found out that if you play Terminator II - Main Theme by Avoriaz at the same time as Beyond Treason trailer makes a really good background music.



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