The Liverpool FC Thread

reply to post by budski


Okay sir, you know best...

Originally posted by budski
If it happens, it happens, but woy is nowhere near good enough to manage Liverpool, and would just show that we are a team heading towards mid-table mediocrity whilst being bled dry.

have to say I agree with that.

I like Roy Hodgson, he's a nice bloke and a good manager... of mid-table teams.
I find it weird that so many people think he's such a great manager and that he's somehow exactly what Liverpool need.... I just don't see it.

As I said, I like the guy and if it happens... maybe he'll prove me wrong... but I just don't think he's the man for us.

reply to post by LiveForever8


So you believe KopTalk???

Do a bit of research mate - the whole web and their mothers know it's a couple of fat geordies out to make a few quid by talking rubbish...

They are as reliable as socha faal.

But hey, if you want Elmer Fudd coming in that's fine - I just hope you don't get your wish.

By the middle of next season he'll be calling the press "wascally wabbits" when they turn on him.

Joking aside, the man is a never has been, and lost the dressing room at BLACKBURN where he had to deal with such world wide names as Tim Sherwood - he's also a complete nutter, and will make this club an even bigger laughing stock than we are now.



[edit on 24/6/2010 by budski]

reply to post by budski


You sure are quick to make assumptions Bud, take a chill pill before you have a heart attack.

I never said I believed Koptalk - I was merely making the point that Hodgson is the favourite to take over at the moment - something that is highlighted by that article.

I also never stated that I wanted Hodgson as our next manager.

Putting words in my mouth to make yourself appear more knowledgeable is lame. Good day, good sir.

reply to post by LiveForever8


I didn't put words in your mouth - I asked you a question. See the difference there?

Hodgson is favourite because the press have bigged him up into being made favourite - it really is that simple.

The press have an agenda, believe it or not - have had for years against us, ever since LFC fans stopped buying the s*n, and even before that.


[edit on 24/6/2010 by budski]

reply to post by budski


Oh yes, I learnt all about the meaning of a question mark when I was in little school.

However, considering you statement, 'So you believe KopTalk???', contained three question marks I really didn't know how to take it. Was it an attempt at emphasising how unbelievable you found the need to ask such a question? Or was it merely some kind of grammatical stutter?

Also, when combined with ' ' and 'Do a bit of research mate...', it seemed you had already found me guilty of ignorance and condemned me to ridicule - thus, leading me to believe your original question was of a rhetorical nature.

Now, I fully appreciate the relationship between the media and the bookmakers etc, but I wasn't making any bold claims by reporting that Hodgson seemed like a likely candidate for the Liverpool job.

Where there is smoke...



[edit on 24/6/10 by LiveForever8]

reply to post by LiveForever8


I wasn't ridiculing you - I was ridiculing that silly site, and it's a VERY silly site.

I'd be surprised if Dalglish backed Hodgson, unless as an interim manager while waiting for a deal to be finalised with new owners - Dalglish will be fully aware of his shortcomings, even if Purslime isn't.

At the moment we're something of a poison chalice.

Oh dear.... I hope this turns out to be a good move and I'm proven wrong...



Roy Hodgson confirmed as new Liverpool FC boss.

We knew it was gonna happen, let's hope it does kinda work, can't see it but we'll see I guess.



It's on Sky new now, the source is the Liverpool Echo.

[edit on 29/6/10 by blupblup]

reply to post by blupblup


Yep, it's legit it seems.

Originally posted by LiveForever8
reply to post by blupblup

 

Yep, it's legit it seems.

It does indeed.

It could be worse I guess..... Nobody in their right mind would want the job.
Roy Hodgson is probably the biggest name (outside the club) we could have got really.

And that's a sad fact right there.

Fuc*ing owners have all but ruined this club..... It's bollocks.

It was on Echo twitter early this morning/last night, so it looks like it will happen.

Then again, the Echo reported that Curbishly was about to become our new boss, only for Benitez to be unveiled

So, we now have a man who won the swedish league, got booted out of inter and pelted by their fans, who got sacked by Blackburn and who plays the most defensive football in the league about to be unveiled as manager.

Welcome to 2 years of parking the bus - can't see our star players welcoming this as the appointment which will make them want to stay.

We'll see, but I have a feeling the dark times are about to get darker.

reply to post by budski


I'll be amazed if Gerrard, Torres, Mascherano and Kuyt last longer than one season with Hodgson in charge.

Without them four I fear to think where Liverpool will end up.

Could we actually see Liverpool involved in relegation dog-fights?

Well with barely a mention, Yossi Benayoun moved to Chelsea for around £6m.


I actually liked old Yossi.... thought he was quality and a great creative player.
Oh well... Let's see how good Hodgson is in the transfer market.


I wouldn't mind Dempsey actually, He's not bad.


Sell Torres for like £40-£50m..... He's never gonna be fit and doesn't want to stay now Benitez has gone..... Try and rebuild the squad a little.

I wouldn't mind Darren Bent as a replacement to Torres, his goal average and tally is usually pretty good...... I hope Torres stays and gets back to fitness and form.... We'll see I guess.


Bye Yossi, you were quality, shame you never really got a chance to shine under Benitez, Can't see you playing much at Chelsea to be honest either.

reply to post by blupblup


Hmmm, Torres has said he will stay - he's said it quite a few interviews.

Darren Bent is a joke.

Yossi flattered to deceive - played well maybe half the time, if that, and always in his preferred position.
I like him, but he's a very "hot or cold" player, and he wanted to leave.

Originally posted by budski

Yossi flattered to deceive - played well maybe half the time, if that, and always in his preferred position.
I like him, but he's a very "hot or cold" player, and he wanted to leave.

What is so suprising about that, you wouldn't play Steven Gerrard in goal with Torres at right back and Mascherano as centre forward would you?

reply to post by Freeborn


A good player should be able to play in more than one position, and play well, especially attacking positions.

Benayoun could play well in one, and even then, the majority of the time, he played poorly, drfited in and out of games, and ran up more than his share of blind alleys.

reply to post by budski


Gary Lineker was a crap footballer but a world class goal scorer.

Paul Gascoigne was an attacking midfielder, end of.

Ian Rush, goal scorer, that's it.

The list is endless.

Yes, some footballers can play in a number of positions, who can forget Paul Madeley of Leeds, but the majority are specialist in one position.

reply to post by Freeborn


Linekar played in a variety of positions in Spain, including on the wing as did Rush in Italy, both did pretty well. Gascoigne played on the right, in the centre, box to box and as a playmaker, as well as in the space behind the striker.

I repeat, the best players can play in more than one position, and play well.

Benayoun cannot, and is over rated - a few flashy moves in a dozen games per season is about it from him.

He had one good HALF of a season when we came 2nd, apart from that he was too inconsistent. That's not good enough.
In other words, he won't be missed.



[edit on 5/7/2010 by budski]

reply to post by budski


Lineker was crap anywhere else but in or around the 6 yard box.
The same could be said about Gerd Muller.
Ian Rush had a bit more depth to his game, but not much.

Alan Shearer could drift out to the right but that was more a tactical move to drag defenders with him and to open space for others to move in to.
He wouldn't have got a game for Newcastle reserves though playing on the right wing.

I could never envisage Peter Shilton starting at centre-half for Notts Forest under Cloughie!

I'll concede some players do have a bit more variety, but not much.

Gerrard's best two positions are either central midfield or just behind a lone forward, no-one would play him on the left, would they??????

Eric Cantona was undoubtedly world class when playing in the hole behind the forwards....anywhere else he was mediocre.

Paul Scholes was world class in his day as a central midfield player, couldn't play anywhere else.

Some players can play in more than one position, I'll agree with you there, but it's not a prerequisite to greatness.

[edit on 5/7/10 by Freeborn]

Originally posted by budski
Benayoun cannot, and is over rated - a few flashy moves in a dozen games per season is about it from him.

He had one good HALF of a season when we came 2nd, apart from that he was too inconsistent. That's not good enough.
In other words, he won't be missed.

Problem is you could say that about the whole team last season?
Nobody was consistent.

I really like Babel and still argue with friends that he is quality and were he given the chance, and I mean a real long run in the team, he would show his class.

Problem with Benitez is he played everyone out of position..... it was just silly.

Maybe players can play well in other positions and the top players often can.... but I would rather play them in their position and get the best out of them, than play them out of position and just get by... I don't think Yossi was a world class player, we didn't buy him because he was... we bought him because we lacked any real wide men, anyone who could take players on and get past them..... and we actually still do.

It's been our problem for over a decade now... that and to have 2 decent strikers in the team.


I really hope old Roy can do a bit of Wheelin' and dealin' in the transfer market....because I really fear that we're falling way behind other teams... or we will do if things don't change.

I only said about Darren Bent too.... because It's somebody in our price range... someone we can actually afford.
He wouldn't be my first choice, not even in my top 10, but we have to be realistic now... we haven't got much money.

I remember when Villa and Silva were being linked with our club, was a nice idea but until we get new owners and a bank balance that's actually in the black, then the best we can hope for is cut-price, bargain basement buys.

It's all bollocks mate.



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