Moon scam program replaced at last minute. Why?

Adds on TechTV earlier today promoted a Conspiracies episode about the Moon Landing Hoax, but that wasn't what was aired! NASA has pulled the plug before on any kind of mass media about the Apollo mission, have they done it again scared that the people may learn the truth? What are your thoughts?

How could anybody find out if NASA is the culprit in taking this show off the air? I seriously doubt it. Lots of anti-NASA shows have made it onto television. I don't know why one show would be taken off and not others. All UFO shows should be taken off the air if that is the case as NASA would be one of the largest publicly accountable agencies regarding such a secret. So no, I don't think NASA is taking any conspiracy shows off TV.

[Edited on 5-12-2003 by heelstone]

OK, but have you ever seen anything on tv about the Apollo 11 mission before?

Me? Yes. Fox even did a big moon-landings-are-faked special a while back.

Bush has to hurry up and get our boyz to the moon! To dump all the 60's and 70's stage props there before China rats us out!!

when did you see this special? Do you know who pushed to have it on tv?

Yep, which has since been debunked, point by point, and well....by NASA...

I'm guessing the show researchers did a little more research, and then decided it was more bunk than Icke's Reptoids....

Debunked huh? So I'm assuming you believe the US had the tech. to send and retrieve men to the moon in 1969?

Do a search for this in the S&T forum, you will find a plenty of information on this topic jacko.

I'm assuming you don't believe in actual science and astronomy?

I know it's not as fun to think that it was in fact real, but a number of REAL astronomers and scientists who know what they're talking about have picked apart each part of the "hoax" theory very well.

I suggest you check THIS page and read through it.

Unless of course you believe all these people have been bought off by NASA. Then that's a whole other can of worms entirely. But it IS kinda hard to argue with cold, hard science facts.

The article does seem to disprove some of the believer's points, but something the author said makes me think.

"Kaysing says that the Apollo 1 fire that killed Roger Chaffee, Ed White and Gus Grissom was no accident. Grissom was ready to talk to the press about the Moon hoax, so NASA killed him. Kaysing says NASA also killed other people who were about to blow the whistle as well.
This is so disgusting I have a hard time writing a coherent reply. Kaysing has no grasp of basic physics, photography or even common sense, but he accuses NASA of killing people to shut them up. That is a particularly loathsome accusation."
www.badastronomy.com...

Now NASA is an organization that deeply depends on funding from the government, and the government has been know to do some 'loathsome' things when it comes to covering up affairs, what's to say the gov't didn't have something to do with this?

Through the entire article he makes the HBs look completely stupid, then ends it by making NASA(or the US gov't) look completely innocent. He reminds me of a defense attorney trying to defend Jeffery Dahmer. Serious propaganda.

Then I wondered why a man with such close ties with the government would say that, then I think I found the answer in his personal section.

"I am currently working on a NASA-sponsered public outreach program for a satellite named GLAST (Gamma Ray Large Area Space Telescope)."
www.badastronomy.com...

I believe anybody believed to have almost exposed the hoax being killed is the most important point in the 'conspiracy'. If the gov't did kill them, the hoax must be true.

Please don't bash me for persisting with this dated subject but I'm interested and just trying to cover all angles.

[Edited on 7-12-2003 by jackopsychopants]

[Edited on 7-12-2003 by jackopsychopants]

Sorry if I am rehashing old arguments but there is one issue that rarely gets brought up in this conspiracy.

Can it not be possible that NASA did film the moon landing and STILL went to the moon? Is this so impossible? It makes a lot of sense to do this as a mock-up for training purposes. It also makes sense for them to do this knowing that cameras would be on them too while this happened. Not a hollywood type production but certainly not winging it either.

Mind you if NASA has never admitted to such activities or never discussed it then it is just as mysterious as the assertion that they never made it to the moon in the first place.

jackopsychopants commented:
"I believe anybody believed to have almost exposed the hoax being killed is the most important point in the 'conspiracy'. If the gov't did kill them, the hoax must be true."

jackopsychopants, the crux to the whole "moon landing hoax/conspiracy" was the photographs. As to you commenting that if the "government" didn't kill them, then the "hoax" must be true is a bit outlandish and just as unfounded factually.
Its good to believe in 'persistance' but its bad to deny factual and evident 'truth'.

You are a member of ATS and here at ATS, skepticism is very healthy.....in such, skepticism thrives. Do you not think many here have been skeptical of the "moon landing hoax/conspiracy?" Be assured: yes.
As Kano and others have alluded to, this "conspiracy/hoax" has been gone over and yes, debunked. No government killings, etc. Why? Well, why would the government want to kill all those that can confirm that the US space program has landed on the moon, multiple times?
Try these:
"The US Never Landed on the Moon!!"
Link:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

"The Apollo 11 Moon landing"
Link:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

"Moon Landings, etc"
Link:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

"Hard Evidence against moon landing"
Link:
www.abovetopsecret.com...


All-in-all, skepticism is good but lack of research into a belief, to review all facts, is merely making skepticism into a belief.....which is based on 'faith.'


regards
seekerof

Skepticism is good and so is research, I agree.

When I woke up this morning I thought of something that I don't know if it has been argued or not, so please correct me if I'm wrong.

One counter-point to a hoax arguement is why there are no stars because the apertures on the cameras were set because of the light conditions.

Now if the stars, which would be much brighter on the moon than on earth because of no air, ended up being too faint to be seen on film, how could the 'shadow light, faint because the only light illuminating it is from the moon itself, not lose any of it's intensity?

Why can you still see what's in shadow when the cameras were set the way they were? Shouldn't they have been completely black also?

I don't know if this has been argued before so please inform me, I want to know the answer.

Its no biggy, really.
Try this site first and see if it can answer your questions that you ask.

"PHOTO ANALYSIS
index of analyzed photos"
Link:
www.clavius.org...


regards
seekerof

The site says again that the aperture on the cameras had to be really small so the images could be seen clearly.

I don't think anything in the shadows could have been visible.

Its possible you are confusing Refraction with Reflection though, the lack of atmosphere means the light is not refracted around on the moon, however it is still reflected off the surface. It is similar to taking a photo of someone on Earth during the day when they are not directly lit by the sun. You still need to let more light onto the film than you would if they were in direct sunlight, but usually nowhere near enough compared to how much you'd need to increase the exposure to get stars to show up.

Seriously by the way, go try this if you have a camera at home, any sort of camera. You will find its quite hard to even get stars to show up at all. Then try using similar settings during the daytime.

from what i understand they couldnt even see the stars on the moon, much less photograph them

Ask a real educated person about the Van Allen Belts
and the amount of radiation you would recieve standing
on the surface of the moon? When you have those
answers you will probably have the truth about the
"moon landing". My biggest question: why don't we
have a base there?
Billiardmaster

Tech TV did air this show, at least here in Alaska via Dishnetork, I watched this evening at 5 pm Mountain time.