God NWO yet again you prove your stupidity.
The Nuclear bomb SAVED millions of Japanese lives, as well as many Americans.
You obviously have no clue as to the Japanese "homeland" defense plan, which is why you'd say something so stupid. But I'll catch you up to
speed. Japan took every available man and boy and gave him a gun and some rounds, stuck him in a fox hole, and told them to stay here until you are
dead. Which is what they'd have done.
DO you know how many they numbered? About 1.6million were prepared to hope in those holes and hold off our invasion till they were dead. Do you have
any real idea of how many actually died from BOTH Nuclear bombs put together?
160,000 about. I think the numbers show that we obviously did the Japs a favor, though I don't think the second bomb was necissary.
As for Afghanistan, you dumba.ss, we ousted the FORIEGN arab invaders that enslaved afghanistan in their horrible theocratic system. Or have you
never heard of anything called the TALIBAN?
God damn...I hate uninformed people, you must be relying on liberal college professors for your information.
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reply posted on 18-11-2002 @ 12:44 AM by JonBlaze
It is amazing to find such intellectuals as some of yourselves believing what this Facist Plutocracy is feeding everyone. Let me make my point here
to avoid any confusion or misconstrunement.
US IS ENTERING A WAR WITH IRAQ FOR THE SAME REASON IT HAS ENTERED IN ALL PREVIOUS ONES: OIL.
Now that being said, I would like to point out that US backed operatives have been taken out heads of states for many years for their outright socialist and anti-imperialist ideology. Take Patrice Lumumba for example, www.wsws.org...
This greedy cabal will stop at nothing to achieve their goals, even if it means killing American citizens overseas, www.wsws.org.... Funny how they didn't want to sign the ICC agreement at the Haque, they were planning this all the while.www.wsws.org...
Facts are that there are already foreign interests in Afghanistan that make American owned privatization a veritable quandry, www.msnbc.com...so what better way to sidestep it than to bumrush the 2nd largest oil reserve? www.wsws.org...
Is anyone even aware of the fact that American forces are currently occupying 1/4 of Kuwait and have 10 TIMES the amount of troops stationed there than at the end of the FIRST Persian Gulf War?
And what's this talk of Saddam being this great ogre? Doesn't Tom Brokaw tell all you nice folks out there that the Reagan administration along with the cooperation of the CIA tacitly supported the Kurdish gassings in Iraq during the 1980-1988 War? American tax dollars went to material support and training for this great atrocity, yet no one's the wiser.Under this philosophy shouldn't we be going after Russia for gassing its own citizens? Of course not because American media doesn't want the people to know the reason why the Chechyn rebels stormed the theatre. Chechnya is sitting on huge undeveloped oil reserves that Mother Russia just isn't quite willing to let go. That's why there's Russian troops there NOW marauding, raping, and pillaging innocent people. www.wsws.org...
Well just my 2 cents. FIGHT FOR YOUR MIND.
US IS ENTERING A WAR WITH IRAQ FOR THE SAME REASON IT HAS ENTERED IN ALL PREVIOUS ONES: OIL.
Now that being said, I would like to point out that US backed operatives have been taken out heads of states for many years for their outright socialist and anti-imperialist ideology. Take Patrice Lumumba for example, www.wsws.org...
This greedy cabal will stop at nothing to achieve their goals, even if it means killing American citizens overseas, www.wsws.org.... Funny how they didn't want to sign the ICC agreement at the Haque, they were planning this all the while.www.wsws.org...
Facts are that there are already foreign interests in Afghanistan that make American owned privatization a veritable quandry, www.msnbc.com...so what better way to sidestep it than to bumrush the 2nd largest oil reserve? www.wsws.org...
Is anyone even aware of the fact that American forces are currently occupying 1/4 of Kuwait and have 10 TIMES the amount of troops stationed there than at the end of the FIRST Persian Gulf War?
And what's this talk of Saddam being this great ogre? Doesn't Tom Brokaw tell all you nice folks out there that the Reagan administration along with the cooperation of the CIA tacitly supported the Kurdish gassings in Iraq during the 1980-1988 War? American tax dollars went to material support and training for this great atrocity, yet no one's the wiser.Under this philosophy shouldn't we be going after Russia for gassing its own citizens? Of course not because American media doesn't want the people to know the reason why the Chechyn rebels stormed the theatre. Chechnya is sitting on huge undeveloped oil reserves that Mother Russia just isn't quite willing to let go. That's why there's Russian troops there NOW marauding, raping, and pillaging innocent people. www.wsws.org...
Well just my 2 cents. FIGHT FOR YOUR MIND.
reply posted on 18-11-2002 @ 10:28 AM by JonBlaze
Here's a little condensensed version of US History on Foreign Policy.
Philippines
The 1899 Filipino-American War is one of those nasty little conflicts that you wonít find a lot about in your high school history textbook. Call it the first Vietnam. During the 1898 Spanish-American War, the US help the Filipinos gain independence from Spain. Then they declare the country an American colony. A brutal war follows. Many of the scorched-earth tactics used in Vietnam are first used here. More than 100 000 Filipinos die. A large anti-imperialism movement starts in the US. ìWe do not intend to free, but subjugate the people of the Philippines. We have gone there to conquer, not to redeem,î wrote early celebrity activist Mark Twain. In 1945, the Americans come back to the Philippines. Even though they have a common enemy ñ Japan ñ America fights leftist forces known as Huks. The US defeat the Huks, and install a series of puppet presidents, culminating in the absurdly corrupt Ferdinand Marcos. He and his high-heel-obsessed wife bilk the poverty-ridden country dry for three decades, until retiring comfortably in Hawaii.
Iran
1953 - The CIAís first big takedown. The democratically elected Prime Minister Mossadegh had to go. He was talking crazy talk, like nationalizing Iranís oil. A CIA-sponsored coup kills him and restores the Shah to absolute power that begins 25 years of repression and torture. Iranís oil is returned to its rightful owners, the Americans and British. This, of course, sets the stage for a radical Islamic revolution in 1979, when the Ayatollah Khomeini takes over, holds Americans hostage, burns many American flags, and pisses off rednecks across America.
Guatemala
1953 - Jacobo Arbenz also had to go. The progressive democratically elected president is also talking that crazy talk - you know, land reform, civil liberties, nationalizing the Washington-connected United Fruit Company. The CIA organizes a massive disinformation campaign and coup. Next up: 40 years of bad, bad things you donít even want to think about ñ American-trained death squads, torture, disappearances, mass executions. Victims: 100 000.
Middle East
In the 50s, the Eisenhower Doctrine stated the United States ìis prepared to use armed forces to assistî any Middle East country ìrequesting assistance against armed aggression from any country controlled by international communism.î In other words, no one is allowed is to # around in the Middle East or its oil fields except the United States. The US tries to overthrow the Syrian government (twice), lands 14 000 troops in Lebanon, and conspires to overthrow and assassinate Arab nationalist Nasser in Egypt. US supports Israel with billions of dollars of aid, despite its harsh treatment of Palestinians and massacres in Lebanon.
Indonesia
1957 - President Sukarno is another troublemaker. He takes back Indonesian companies from their former colonial master, the Dutch. He takes a trip to Moscow. He refuses to crack down on communists. The CIA launches a disinformation campaign, tries to blackmail him with a fake sex film, plots his assassination, and hooks up with dissident military officers to start a full-scale war against the government. Sukarno, unlike many on the Agencyís hit list, somehow survives. 1965 - Sukarno is finally overthrown by General Suharto. The US helps him track down anyone suspected of being communist. The New York Times calls what follows ìone of the most savage mass slayings of modern political history.î Up to one million die.
Vietnam
After watching the French get their asses kicked halfway to Montparnasse, the US gets embroiled in a civil war pitting communist nationalist forces against a corrupt, pro-west government. In 1961, the first young American men start arriving home in body bags. Before itís over, more than one million Vietnamese and 50,000 Americans will die, Jimi Hendrix will play Woodstock, the Beatles will form and break up, and the American psyche will be radically transformed. In 1973, the US finally admits defeat, forever dooming it to need to overcome the ìVietnam Syndromeî (see Rambo).
Cambodia
1969 - Nixon and Kissinger begin their secret ìcarpet bombingsî of Cambodia. They say it is to kill Viet Cong hiding out in the Cambodian jungle. Hundreds of thousands of Cambodian civilians die. 1970 - Washington finally helps overthrow troublesome Prince Sihanouk in a coup. The US enlists the genocidal maniac Pol Pot and his Khmer Rouge to help fight the Viet Cong. Five years later, Pol Pot takes over, declares ìYear Zero,î kills anyone with an education, or even wearing glasses, and sends everyone to the countryside to work in agricultural labor camps. More than two million die in his ìkilling fieldsî (see The Killing Fields).
The Congo/Zaire
1960 - Patrice Lumumba becomes the Congoís first prime minister after independence from Belgium. But the Belgians donít quite leave. They keep their hands on the vast mineral wealth in the Katanga province, where the Americans also have a piece of the action. Lumumba is defiant, calling for the Congoís economic and political liberation. In other words, he is doomed. In January 1961, he is assassinated with help from the CIA, under orders from Eisenhower himself. His body is chopped up into little pieces and burned in acid. Mobutu Sese Seko takes over, changes the name to Zaire, and begins one of the most corrupt and bloody dictatorships in modern times. Even his CIA handlers are amazed at his cruelty. Thirty years later, despite its rich natural resources, the people of the Congo are still dirt-poor, Mobutu is a multibillionaire, and the country is in chaos. In 1997, Mobutu is overthrown, and retires to the Cote díAzur. The country slides into a civil war that has killed more than one million.
Cuba
1959 - When Fidel Castro rolls into Havana New Years Day he isnít a commie ñ he is a nationalist and an opportunist. But he did take over Cubaís national industries. And that, as weíve learned, is something the US doesnít look kindly on. The Americans begin a comically disastrous campaign to oust Castro. They help launch a full-scale invasion at the Bay of Pigs and are crushed. They launch gunboat attacks, bombings, biological warfare. New evidence has just come out that the CIA even considered committing terrorist acts and then blaming them on Cuba as a pretext to invade again. They try to send Castro exploding cigars. Spray poison on his beard. The US issues sanctions and a trade embargo that, more than anything, ensures Castro remains in power.
Chile
1973 - Salvador Allende was a ìdangerousî man. He was popular, democratically elected, and a leftist. Against the objections of many inside the US State Department, the CIA, pushed by Kissinger, helps the military overthrow the government. Allende is killed. General Pinochet closes off the country to the outside world. Tanks roll in, soldiers round up students, stadiums turn into execution fields, the country is gripped by fear. For two decades, Pinochet rules with a brutal hand, and thousands of students, union organizers and other bad apples are ìdisappearedî (see the movie Missing).
East Timor
December 1975 - Indonesia invades the small island of East Timor, which had proclaimed its independence after Portugal left. The day before, US President Ford and Secretary of State Kissinger were in Indonesia meeting with Indonesian President Suharto. Amnesty International estimates that by 1989, Indonesian troops had killed 200 000 people out of a population of between 600 000 and 700 000. The US supplies Indonesia with aid, guns, and training throughout.
Nicaragua
1978 - the leftist Sandinistas overthrow the US-backed Somoza dictatorship. Reagan becomes obsessed with taking out the Cuba-and-Soviet-friendly government, enlisting an army of mercenaries, drug dealers and ex-Somoza National Guardsmen. The Contras attack schools and medical clinics, raping, torturing, mining harbors, and bombing. When Congress cuts off funds, Reaganís ìfreedom fightersî are financed by CIA drug-dealing and secret arms sales to Iran in what comes to be known as the Iran-Contra Affair.
El Salvador
During El Salvadorís bloody civil war (1980-92), the US funds, trains, and secretly fights alongside a military that operates less like a traditional army than a loose confederation of homicidal fraternities. By the end of the war, 75 000 Salvadorans are dead.
Panama
During the 80s, Manny Noriega was George Bushís nigga. On the CIA payroll, he helped the US run drugs, launder money and ship arms to its operations in Nicaragua and El Salvador. But olí Pineapple Face became a problem. Turned out he was helping Castro, laundering money for Pablo Escobar, and talking smack about US imperialism. Plus he knew way too much about the whole Iran-Contra scandal. Dude had to go. In December 1989, Bush sends in the Green Berets to arrest him for drug dealing. A whole Panama City barrio is leveled. The official body count is 500-something, others say 3 000. Noriega sits in a Florida jail feeling confused.
IRAQ
In the 80's Saddam Hussein is America's ally. The U.S. sends him weapons and money as he fights a seemingly endless war against Iran,murders his politia opponents and gasses the Kurds. In 1991, Saddam is pissed off at neighboring Kuwait (a country invented by the Britain) for undercutting the price of oil. He invades. The U.S. forms an international coalition to "liberate" Kuwait. Saddam sends an army of barefoot conscripts. For more then 40 days and nights, 177 miliion pounds of bombs fall on Iraq - the most concentrated aerial onslaught in the history of the world. The U.S. uses cancer-causing depleted uranium weapons; the bury soldiers alive; they bomb retreatng troops and civilians. At the war's end, the U.S. turns its back on the Kurds and other anti-saddam forces (see Three Kings). While Saddam remains in power, U.S. sanctions and continued bombing keep food, medicine, and clean water from everyday Iraqis. According to the UN, over one million Iraqis have died, half of them children.
Afghanistan
Beginning in the 1970's, the US pours billions of dollars into over-throwing a pro-Soviet government. The CIA funds, trains, and arms a guerilla army of Islamic extremists known as the Mujahideen. The Soviets are driven out, in their version of Vietnam. More then a million Afghans are dead, three million disabled and fiv million made refugees. The country slides into civil war in which an even more radical group of Pakistan-educated students and un-educated hillbillies known as the Taliban take over. The country becomes a heaven for anti-American terrorists groups and women-haters. Lies flourish. While outwardly criticizing the Taliban, behind the scenes the CIA and American oil companies jockey for leverage to build a pipeline across the country.
Yugoslavia
1999 - After the Serbs start "ethnic cleansing" Albanians in the Yugoslavian province of Kosovo, the US and NATO launch 70 days of air strikes against Serbia (an act that had nothing to do with Coporate intrests and was actually pretty reasonable). Thouands of Serbs are killed. The ethnic Albanian KLA guerilla army, a drug-dealing group of thugs who were first accused of ethnic cleansing Serb by THE NEW YORK TIMES back in 1982, start an open season on Serbs living in Kosovo. The bombs stop, and Serb demagogue Slobodan Milosevic is driven from power by a popular movement.
COLOMBIA
2001 - Colombia's 38 year old civil war is still going strong, despite, or one might say, as a result of $2.2 Billion of US military aid (as to this date,congress is debating another $900 million to send). The country is a chaotic death trap. Marxist rebels hold large portions of the country; American mercenaries and defense department front companies like DynCorp and Virginia Electronics are covertly helping the inept Colombian military; (in the early 60's the testing place for the experimental weapon, Napalm, by the US military, was in Colombia, it was used by the government against political dissidents in the countryside) Right-Wing Paramilitaries (on the CIA's payroll and financed out of the coffers of companies such as BP, Shell, Occidental Petrolium and Exxon) are massacring civilians; and everyone has their hands in the super - lucrative drug trade. Most people don't know that American forces have been around for awhile. In the early 90's, a secret group code-named Centra Spike launch a covert operation to take out Pablo Escobar, a major cocaine lord who made the fatal mistake of giving money to the poor and talking # about American imperialism. The colombian government and the secret American unit go into buisness with Escobar's rival the Cali Cartel. Escobar is finally killed. The Cali Cartel's power is solidified and the flow of cocaine into the US only increases. Victims in the last 10 years alone of U.S financed civil war, 40,000 +
Fact of the matter is the TRUTH(not matter how I spell it) has been out there for years hiding in the carefully crafted demigod of American media.
Don't believe just read.
Black Gold Hot Gold Chap 1
Chapter 2
Chapter 3
Chapter 4
PS. Don't Kill the Messenger
Philippines
The 1899 Filipino-American War is one of those nasty little conflicts that you wonít find a lot about in your high school history textbook. Call it the first Vietnam. During the 1898 Spanish-American War, the US help the Filipinos gain independence from Spain. Then they declare the country an American colony. A brutal war follows. Many of the scorched-earth tactics used in Vietnam are first used here. More than 100 000 Filipinos die. A large anti-imperialism movement starts in the US. ìWe do not intend to free, but subjugate the people of the Philippines. We have gone there to conquer, not to redeem,î wrote early celebrity activist Mark Twain. In 1945, the Americans come back to the Philippines. Even though they have a common enemy ñ Japan ñ America fights leftist forces known as Huks. The US defeat the Huks, and install a series of puppet presidents, culminating in the absurdly corrupt Ferdinand Marcos. He and his high-heel-obsessed wife bilk the poverty-ridden country dry for three decades, until retiring comfortably in Hawaii.
Iran
1953 - The CIAís first big takedown. The democratically elected Prime Minister Mossadegh had to go. He was talking crazy talk, like nationalizing Iranís oil. A CIA-sponsored coup kills him and restores the Shah to absolute power that begins 25 years of repression and torture. Iranís oil is returned to its rightful owners, the Americans and British. This, of course, sets the stage for a radical Islamic revolution in 1979, when the Ayatollah Khomeini takes over, holds Americans hostage, burns many American flags, and pisses off rednecks across America.
Guatemala
1953 - Jacobo Arbenz also had to go. The progressive democratically elected president is also talking that crazy talk - you know, land reform, civil liberties, nationalizing the Washington-connected United Fruit Company. The CIA organizes a massive disinformation campaign and coup. Next up: 40 years of bad, bad things you donít even want to think about ñ American-trained death squads, torture, disappearances, mass executions. Victims: 100 000.
Middle East
In the 50s, the Eisenhower Doctrine stated the United States ìis prepared to use armed forces to assistî any Middle East country ìrequesting assistance against armed aggression from any country controlled by international communism.î In other words, no one is allowed is to # around in the Middle East or its oil fields except the United States. The US tries to overthrow the Syrian government (twice), lands 14 000 troops in Lebanon, and conspires to overthrow and assassinate Arab nationalist Nasser in Egypt. US supports Israel with billions of dollars of aid, despite its harsh treatment of Palestinians and massacres in Lebanon.
Indonesia
1957 - President Sukarno is another troublemaker. He takes back Indonesian companies from their former colonial master, the Dutch. He takes a trip to Moscow. He refuses to crack down on communists. The CIA launches a disinformation campaign, tries to blackmail him with a fake sex film, plots his assassination, and hooks up with dissident military officers to start a full-scale war against the government. Sukarno, unlike many on the Agencyís hit list, somehow survives. 1965 - Sukarno is finally overthrown by General Suharto. The US helps him track down anyone suspected of being communist. The New York Times calls what follows ìone of the most savage mass slayings of modern political history.î Up to one million die.
Vietnam
After watching the French get their asses kicked halfway to Montparnasse, the US gets embroiled in a civil war pitting communist nationalist forces against a corrupt, pro-west government. In 1961, the first young American men start arriving home in body bags. Before itís over, more than one million Vietnamese and 50,000 Americans will die, Jimi Hendrix will play Woodstock, the Beatles will form and break up, and the American psyche will be radically transformed. In 1973, the US finally admits defeat, forever dooming it to need to overcome the ìVietnam Syndromeî (see Rambo).
Cambodia
1969 - Nixon and Kissinger begin their secret ìcarpet bombingsî of Cambodia. They say it is to kill Viet Cong hiding out in the Cambodian jungle. Hundreds of thousands of Cambodian civilians die. 1970 - Washington finally helps overthrow troublesome Prince Sihanouk in a coup. The US enlists the genocidal maniac Pol Pot and his Khmer Rouge to help fight the Viet Cong. Five years later, Pol Pot takes over, declares ìYear Zero,î kills anyone with an education, or even wearing glasses, and sends everyone to the countryside to work in agricultural labor camps. More than two million die in his ìkilling fieldsî (see The Killing Fields).
The Congo/Zaire
1960 - Patrice Lumumba becomes the Congoís first prime minister after independence from Belgium. But the Belgians donít quite leave. They keep their hands on the vast mineral wealth in the Katanga province, where the Americans also have a piece of the action. Lumumba is defiant, calling for the Congoís economic and political liberation. In other words, he is doomed. In January 1961, he is assassinated with help from the CIA, under orders from Eisenhower himself. His body is chopped up into little pieces and burned in acid. Mobutu Sese Seko takes over, changes the name to Zaire, and begins one of the most corrupt and bloody dictatorships in modern times. Even his CIA handlers are amazed at his cruelty. Thirty years later, despite its rich natural resources, the people of the Congo are still dirt-poor, Mobutu is a multibillionaire, and the country is in chaos. In 1997, Mobutu is overthrown, and retires to the Cote díAzur. The country slides into a civil war that has killed more than one million.
Cuba
1959 - When Fidel Castro rolls into Havana New Years Day he isnít a commie ñ he is a nationalist and an opportunist. But he did take over Cubaís national industries. And that, as weíve learned, is something the US doesnít look kindly on. The Americans begin a comically disastrous campaign to oust Castro. They help launch a full-scale invasion at the Bay of Pigs and are crushed. They launch gunboat attacks, bombings, biological warfare. New evidence has just come out that the CIA even considered committing terrorist acts and then blaming them on Cuba as a pretext to invade again. They try to send Castro exploding cigars. Spray poison on his beard. The US issues sanctions and a trade embargo that, more than anything, ensures Castro remains in power.
Chile
1973 - Salvador Allende was a ìdangerousî man. He was popular, democratically elected, and a leftist. Against the objections of many inside the US State Department, the CIA, pushed by Kissinger, helps the military overthrow the government. Allende is killed. General Pinochet closes off the country to the outside world. Tanks roll in, soldiers round up students, stadiums turn into execution fields, the country is gripped by fear. For two decades, Pinochet rules with a brutal hand, and thousands of students, union organizers and other bad apples are ìdisappearedî (see the movie Missing).
East Timor
December 1975 - Indonesia invades the small island of East Timor, which had proclaimed its independence after Portugal left. The day before, US President Ford and Secretary of State Kissinger were in Indonesia meeting with Indonesian President Suharto. Amnesty International estimates that by 1989, Indonesian troops had killed 200 000 people out of a population of between 600 000 and 700 000. The US supplies Indonesia with aid, guns, and training throughout.
Nicaragua
1978 - the leftist Sandinistas overthrow the US-backed Somoza dictatorship. Reagan becomes obsessed with taking out the Cuba-and-Soviet-friendly government, enlisting an army of mercenaries, drug dealers and ex-Somoza National Guardsmen. The Contras attack schools and medical clinics, raping, torturing, mining harbors, and bombing. When Congress cuts off funds, Reaganís ìfreedom fightersî are financed by CIA drug-dealing and secret arms sales to Iran in what comes to be known as the Iran-Contra Affair.
El Salvador
During El Salvadorís bloody civil war (1980-92), the US funds, trains, and secretly fights alongside a military that operates less like a traditional army than a loose confederation of homicidal fraternities. By the end of the war, 75 000 Salvadorans are dead.
Panama
During the 80s, Manny Noriega was George Bushís nigga. On the CIA payroll, he helped the US run drugs, launder money and ship arms to its operations in Nicaragua and El Salvador. But olí Pineapple Face became a problem. Turned out he was helping Castro, laundering money for Pablo Escobar, and talking smack about US imperialism. Plus he knew way too much about the whole Iran-Contra scandal. Dude had to go. In December 1989, Bush sends in the Green Berets to arrest him for drug dealing. A whole Panama City barrio is leveled. The official body count is 500-something, others say 3 000. Noriega sits in a Florida jail feeling confused.
IRAQ
In the 80's Saddam Hussein is America's ally. The U.S. sends him weapons and money as he fights a seemingly endless war against Iran,murders his politia opponents and gasses the Kurds. In 1991, Saddam is pissed off at neighboring Kuwait (a country invented by the Britain) for undercutting the price of oil. He invades. The U.S. forms an international coalition to "liberate" Kuwait. Saddam sends an army of barefoot conscripts. For more then 40 days and nights, 177 miliion pounds of bombs fall on Iraq - the most concentrated aerial onslaught in the history of the world. The U.S. uses cancer-causing depleted uranium weapons; the bury soldiers alive; they bomb retreatng troops and civilians. At the war's end, the U.S. turns its back on the Kurds and other anti-saddam forces (see Three Kings). While Saddam remains in power, U.S. sanctions and continued bombing keep food, medicine, and clean water from everyday Iraqis. According to the UN, over one million Iraqis have died, half of them children.
Afghanistan
Beginning in the 1970's, the US pours billions of dollars into over-throwing a pro-Soviet government. The CIA funds, trains, and arms a guerilla army of Islamic extremists known as the Mujahideen. The Soviets are driven out, in their version of Vietnam. More then a million Afghans are dead, three million disabled and fiv million made refugees. The country slides into civil war in which an even more radical group of Pakistan-educated students and un-educated hillbillies known as the Taliban take over. The country becomes a heaven for anti-American terrorists groups and women-haters. Lies flourish. While outwardly criticizing the Taliban, behind the scenes the CIA and American oil companies jockey for leverage to build a pipeline across the country.
Yugoslavia
1999 - After the Serbs start "ethnic cleansing" Albanians in the Yugoslavian province of Kosovo, the US and NATO launch 70 days of air strikes against Serbia (an act that had nothing to do with Coporate intrests and was actually pretty reasonable). Thouands of Serbs are killed. The ethnic Albanian KLA guerilla army, a drug-dealing group of thugs who were first accused of ethnic cleansing Serb by THE NEW YORK TIMES back in 1982, start an open season on Serbs living in Kosovo. The bombs stop, and Serb demagogue Slobodan Milosevic is driven from power by a popular movement.
COLOMBIA
2001 - Colombia's 38 year old civil war is still going strong, despite, or one might say, as a result of $2.2 Billion of US military aid (as to this date,congress is debating another $900 million to send). The country is a chaotic death trap. Marxist rebels hold large portions of the country; American mercenaries and defense department front companies like DynCorp and Virginia Electronics are covertly helping the inept Colombian military; (in the early 60's the testing place for the experimental weapon, Napalm, by the US military, was in Colombia, it was used by the government against political dissidents in the countryside) Right-Wing Paramilitaries (on the CIA's payroll and financed out of the coffers of companies such as BP, Shell, Occidental Petrolium and Exxon) are massacring civilians; and everyone has their hands in the super - lucrative drug trade. Most people don't know that American forces have been around for awhile. In the early 90's, a secret group code-named Centra Spike launch a covert operation to take out Pablo Escobar, a major cocaine lord who made the fatal mistake of giving money to the poor and talking # about American imperialism. The colombian government and the secret American unit go into buisness with Escobar's rival the Cali Cartel. Escobar is finally killed. The Cali Cartel's power is solidified and the flow of cocaine into the US only increases. Victims in the last 10 years alone of U.S financed civil war, 40,000 +
Fact of the matter is the TRUTH(not matter how I spell it) has been out there for years hiding in the carefully crafted demigod of American media.
Don't believe just read.
Black Gold Hot Gold Chap 1
Chapter 2
Chapter 3
Chapter 4
PS. Don't Kill the Messenger
reply posted on 18-11-2002 @ 10:49 AM by JonBlaze
Here is the article that goes intro great detail about the current mobilization.
US Masses Forces for War
What is so hard to believe about cold, hard, objective facts?
Think before you post.
US Masses Forces for War
What is so hard to believe about cold, hard, objective facts?
Think before you post.
reply posted on 18-11-2002 @ 01:07 PM by William
By the way JB, in the future, please simply link to material, rather than using a very-large copy-and-paste as you
did in this thread.
Thank You.
[Edited on 18-11-2002 by William]
Thank You.
[Edited on 18-11-2002 by William]
reply posted on 18-11-2002 @ 03:37 PM by Byrd
TC> Sorry I missed your earlier reply in all the chatter.
I remember it being reported that Saddam was gassing his own people some years ago -- but there was some question as to how accurate the report was:
www.polyconomics.com...
(note: I'm not sure if that site is foofoo. I do, however, see a letter circulated from Jesse Helms that says the same thing:
www.whatreallyhappened.com...
The incident (as I searched further) took place about 14 years ago (and yes, I really do believe the reports he used gas. What I don't believe is that he's stockpiled it all up and is getting ready to launch.
Frankly, I'm skeptical. I think we pretty well smushed him during the Gulf War and there haven't been reports of massive troop buildups. As far as I'm aware, there aren't any credible threats (he hasn't (yet) been accused of training Al Qaida members)
His attack range is very very limited, with little chance to improve it any time soon.
So I haven't seen any compelling reason to go marching in and shave his moustache. I think we'd be better off going after Osama.
I remember it being reported that Saddam was gassing his own people some years ago -- but there was some question as to how accurate the report was:
www.polyconomics.com...
(note: I'm not sure if that site is foofoo. I do, however, see a letter circulated from Jesse Helms that says the same thing:
www.whatreallyhappened.com...
The incident (as I searched further) took place about 14 years ago (and yes, I really do believe the reports he used gas. What I don't believe is that he's stockpiled it all up and is getting ready to launch.
Frankly, I'm skeptical. I think we pretty well smushed him during the Gulf War and there haven't been reports of massive troop buildups. As far as I'm aware, there aren't any credible threats (he hasn't (yet) been accused of training Al Qaida members)
His attack range is very very limited, with little chance to improve it any time soon.
So I haven't seen any compelling reason to go marching in and shave his moustache. I think we'd be better off going after Osama.
The "Terrorism" Hot Spot map. You would think they were crawling out of the woodwork everywhere...
Posted 8 days ago with 16 member flags
Posted 8 days ago with 16 member flags
Keep Your Eyes on Sudan!!! We Have Boots on the Ground. Jihad Threat!
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Insurgency in America? Former Border Agent Details Threats Spilling Into the U.S.
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