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Yes to War with Iraq

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posted on Nov, 14 2002 @ 06:03 PM
I belive we must go to war and remove Saddam. But I want to hear what others have to say.

posted on Nov, 15 2002 @ 12:20 AM
Removing Saddam ? We don't need a war for this. If we want " only " remove him, a CIA removers team is enough.

posted on Nov, 15 2002 @ 12:30 AM
No UP, you can not remove a head of state through clandestine methods. It has to be a declared war, or it is a crime. It actually makes sense though when you think about it, the last thing we need is 1st world nations hitting world leaders with smart bombs, and 3rd world nations assassinating world leaders with poisoned blow darts and such.

You could say goodbye to political stability if nations could finance their own assassinations.

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posted on Nov, 15 2002 @ 07:37 AM
It was already allowed that Hussein could be assasinated, if it were possible. That was reported months ago. It was really a moot point as Hussein, a paranoid tyrant rightfully fearful that someone would want him dead, has numerous look-alikes running around the place. There's a greater chance of killing a ringer than killing Hussein.

posted on Nov, 15 2002 @ 08:26 AM
Originally posted by FreeMason

No UP, you can not remove a head of state through clandestine methods.

Sure we can !!! Where is the problem ?

Originally posted by FreeMason

It has to be a declared war, or it is a crime.

Huuuum, let me see....And killing millions of innocents peoples in a declared war, it's not a worst crime for you ?

Originally posted by FreeMason

It actually makes sense though when you think about it, the last thing we need is 1st world nations hitting world leaders with smart bombs, and 3rd world nations assassinating world leaders with poisoned blow darts and such.

We have a different point of view on this matter.After all, it's them, the world leaders who start wars, not common peoples like us.

Originally posted by FreeMason

You could say goodbye to political stability if nations could finance their own assassinations.

Not when you kill tyrans like Saddam or Pol Pot. Just kill some of them, and I'm pretty sure that the rest of these tyrans will be more quiet !!! Tyrans, in most of the case, are allways cowards.

posted on Nov, 15 2002 @ 08:31 AM
kill some of them, and you become a tyrant yourself. at least in my opinion.

anyway, perhaps a sensible method would be to declare war, then send in the CIA. granted the job is difficult, but its better than a conventional war.

- qo.

posted on Nov, 15 2002 @ 10:47 AM
remember one thing tho...Saddam is a CIA man himself.

I think it is a conpiracy!


posted on Nov, 15 2002 @ 01:45 PM
If we do'nt use a war we could just be killing a double. This man has commited too many crimes.

posted on Nov, 15 2002 @ 03:22 PM
You'r all narrowminded nitwits, except for Quiet One!!!

You have taken all this crap hook, line and sinker. I laugh at your extreme gullibality.

War is allways bad, but it looks to me none of the kids on this board knows what war really is about, noone seems to understand the consequences, live by the sword and you will die by the sword. All this evil the Bush government is invoking will come back to you tenfold. But does Bush(and his evil jewish government)care, nope he doesn't give a fuk

The implications are clear: The Bush administration is adopting the terrorist's own rules of war. One must ask whether this war is important enough to warrant abandoning established principles of statehood and foreign policy. However, a critical question is: Can we win the war?

The answer to both questions is no! Abandoning the rules invites everybody to play without rules. Ignoring national boundaries gives others equal rights to do the same. Killing people without trial or proof of guilt invites anarchy. Using assassination is an invitation to political chaos.

The basic flaw is military power does not stop terrorism. In the past two years Israel invested more than ten billion dollars in Israeli Defense Force operations in Palestine. But the IDF killed or captured only about 1500 Palestinians, most not proven terrorists. Worse still, IDF, the top military force in the Middle East, could not stop the suicide bombers. Our forces spent a year in Afghanistan without corralling Al Qaida. In the meantime, Al Qaida may have carried out several terrorist operations, at least one against US forces. Moreover, as IDF shows repeatedly in Palestine, the human costs are simply appalling. In Palestine, the lives of thousands of innocent people were disturbed, permanently changed or destroyed for only a handful of terrorists.

Military sprawl across this problem is costly and inefficient. Perhaps recognizing that fact makes the Bush administration seek less bulky tools such as assassination and other covert operations. Unfortunately, such > devices revive the messy practices of the Cold War without offering any reward, because the war just goes on.

The War on Terrorism goes on because it does not address the primary causes. If we define winning as stopping terrorism for all time, not a prayer can help the present strategy. US strategy focuses on eliminating the present generation of terrorists. Under that strategy, nations are invited to work with the US on controlling terrorists in their own countries. If those nations cooperate, they do so by repressing the out groups in their countries whose most angry or discontented members are the terrorists. Angered and frustrated by further repression, those out groups grow the next generation of terrorists. As a result, the War on Terrorism is self-feeding, and it can never be won.

The same rules apply to War on Terrorism as to all other wars. No real progress can be made until the fighting stops. Only then can we focus on the problems of repression, social, political and economic injustice, human rights abuses, and reactions to main-stream neglect that are the global breeding grounds for terrorism. Those problems exist in at least a third of all nations. If we do not recognize this situation soon and move with other nations and the United Nations system to deal with it, we are all doomed to perpetual conflict. Our best chances lie with dedicating many more aid resources to solving those problems and as quickly as possible shifting the fight against terrorism back to law, diplomacy and the justice system!!!

posted on Nov, 15 2002 @ 03:51 PM
That is a bunch of bullshi*. I know the horrors of war. My uncle died at the hands of Japs during WWII. My cousin fought in the Korean War. Diplomacy can not fix all things. Saddam is an evil bastard that must be removed.

How dare u say those things. The Jews are not evil. I am not a Jew. How dare u lose faith in ur own country. [ I am guessing u are American when I say that. ] We are the most powerfull nation on this planet!

Isrieal and Palestine will fight untill there is nothing to fight about.

What proof do we need to kill Saddam. He has commited genocide. That is horrible crime and he must pay for that!

I guess u support those bums, Clinton, and Gore. This war CANNOT be won with talks. That is not the way of a terroist to talk about things. They blow up things!

This a war that we must fight! Yes some innocent will be killed. We do not target the innocent. Saddam's regime does.

I know what war is about. I have alsways hated Saddam.

Hey, let's do this then NWO. How about everyone in the worlds, holds hands and sings. That will never happen, and u know it. After WWIII, there will be peace. But not now.

[Edited on 15-11-2002 by JediMaster]

posted on Nov, 15 2002 @ 09:24 PM
Such narrowminded remarks, one year ago you did know squat about Iraq being dangerous, then all of a sudden Dubya shouts fire and murder gets his propaganda team in action and jumps from Osama Bin Dickhead to Saddam. This entire media scam solely to blind you and blinded you have become. Saddam is no more a treat then aliens flying in and taking over the world. Such nerve to come and tell me all this crap while you obviously know shiit. Your entire views are created by the media, not common sense.

US can pound Iraq in a second so therefor it is not a treat to American people. What this war is about is not a war for peace, it is a war for control. Control of oil, control of yet another arab country and further implementation of privacy invading laws.

Its a sick sick world in which a sucker is born every minute and you JediMaster are just one of the many sheep created with the power of the media. This flock of sheep is growing so fast it puts even more control in George Dubya cokehead's lap!!!!

Jews are not evil you say??? I'm sure 99% of the jewish people are nice people, its just that little 1% in power in Israel and the US(95% of the Bush government is jewish)are so evil that there isn't even a place for them in hell.

I see history has passed most of you by, allow me to elaborate on that. In '67 jews took over a country that wasn't theirs, they did this with full support of the US government who gladly supplied weapons for a coup that costs millions of lives allready. You must remember that the jews who took over what is now called Israel have never ever in the entire history of mankind owned an inch of land. All these jews were nomads living in southern parts of russia, Syria, ...... US instigated this entire palestinian takeover to gain control of one of the key areas in the Arab world. Israel is the only place to date where US can land its planes and build its bases.

But no need to explain all this to you, your mind is allready corrupted so whatever I tell you you will just keep on refuting the truth, cause truth hurts I know, so you'd rather stick to something that feels more comfortable to you. Because it just cannot be possible that our government is this evil right???

posted on Nov, 15 2002 @ 10:04 PM
but the US has bases all over the middle east: S.A., Qatar, Kuwait, Bahrain? What do you mean?

posted on Nov, 15 2002 @ 10:08 PM
NWO The Bush Administration is NOT 95% Jewish....the Jews had Israel LONG before Muslims ever existed, and they are not sent there for some kind of world domination plot.

They are sent there because the world is STILL Anti-Semetic and rather than do what the Nazis did we simply move them to Israel. This is common practice in nations such as Russia.

Russia and Israel share a "immigrant" policy where Russia deports a certain quota of Jews a year, and Isreal happily accepts them.

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PS. Oh and I knew about the "possible" dangers of Iraq long before 9/11...but I wanted to see the whole world recognize it, now with this UN resolution, the world DOES recognize it.

posted on Nov, 15 2002 @ 10:37 PM
Would Iraq invading Kuwait be sufficient enough to label Iraq as dangerous?

posted on Nov, 16 2002 @ 02:43 AM
He's notorious for having meals cooked in every one of his numerous palaces every night so that absolutely no one, outside his chosen circle, knows where he'll be until the last minute.
Also -while we all know the old tales about the CIA's ludicrous attempts to bump Castro off -actually doing it would take some doing: whoever the people close to him are, they'll be Arabs and Muslims and unlikely to be pro-US.
In any case, a wily old fox like Saddam has long ago got rid of any rivals.
Then, who would replace him? Somebody worse? It's a 50-50 bet; but it's unlikely that any liberals have risen to positions of authority in Saddam's Iraq.
Whatever the morality of assasination -it's rarely been tried, perhaps because it's so uncertain. The only genuine attempt on Hitler's life was by German soldiers without any outside help.

posted on Nov, 16 2002 @ 02:51 AM
..of this topic: it won't be "war", whatever they choose to call it and it won't be "with Iraq".
It will be carefully presented -as it already has been -as some sort of "personal" issue with Saddam. I anticipate repeated asssurances that no one is fighting "the Iraqi people" -as was the case with the Party Line in Afghanistan: it was against the Taliban who became Al Qaida who were actually UbL -and so on.
"War against Saddam" is OK -it reduces it to the Hollywood level and is actually impossible under any known form of law or constitution: you can't declare "war" on a person.
Check the media hype and see how they are doing this even now and against endless vague suggestions that somehow Saddam is linked to 9-11.

posted on Nov, 16 2002 @ 08:59 AM

Originally posted by FreeMason
NWO The Bush Administration is NOT 95% Jewish....the Jews had Israel LONG before Muslims ever existed, and they are not sent there for some kind of world domination plot.

They are sent there because the world is STILL Anti-Semetic and rather than do what the Nazis did we simply move them to Israel. This is common practice in nations such as Russia.

Russia and Israel share a "immigrant" policy where Russia deports a certain quota of Jews a year, and Isreal happily accepts them.

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PS. Oh and I knew about the "possible" dangers of Iraq long before 9/11...but I wanted to see the whole world recognize it, now with this UN resolution, the world DOES recognize it.

You know nothing of history, Jews never controlled Israel, it was never their country and this is written in every history book, they haven't owned land for 8000 years, palestinians owned what is now called Israel. If you rather deny these facts fine by me but I'd rather believe what history tells me. Thats just what is wrong with US education and media, you are just fed a bunch of lies. Jews are using what happened in '40-'45 to harden their case. They are evil to the core and Bush and his government is on in on the deal.

You say the Bush government is not Jewish, ha I laugh at your ignorance,

Mmmm first of all US is controlled by jews and that is a fact, if that is considered anti-semetic then you must have your head buried in the sand, these things are so indoctrinated to protect the jews it ain't normal anymore. You cannot say a single thing or they accuse you of being racist.

I will post here my findings, and full proof that US is controlled by Jews, do not refute this, look up their biographies yourself, I know I did. I know more about this whole # than most of you combined. I said it before and I say it again, I live and breath news, I analyze and cut the fact from the crap.

Okay here it goes, the stinking jews in power,

Ari Fleischer
Official White House Spokesman for the Bush (Jr) Administration.
Prominent in the Jewish community, he reportedly holds Israeli citizenship.

Richard Perle
One of Bush's Foreign Policy Advisors and chairman of the Pentagon's Defense Policy Board.
He had worked as Bush's Jewish national security campaign advisor.
A very likely Israeli agent, Perle was expelled from Senator Henry Jackson's office in the 1970's after the National Security
Agency (NSA) caught him passing Highly-Classified (National Security) documents to the Israeli Embassy.
He later worked for the Israeli weapons firm, Soltam.

Paul Wolfowitz
Deputy Defense Secretary, Bush's Jewish foreign policy campaign advisor,
close associate of Israeli agent Richard Perle, and reportedly has close ties to the Israeli military.

Douglas Feith
Under Secretary of Defense and Policy Advisor at the Pentagon.
He is a close associate of Perle and served as his Special Counsel.
Like Perle and the others, Feith is a pro-Israel extremist, who has advocated anti-Arab policies in the past. He is closely
associated with the extremist group, the Zionist Organization of America, which even attacks Jews that don't agree with
its extremist views. Feith frequently speaks at ZOA conferences. Feith runs a small law firm, Feith and Zell, which only has one
International office, in Israel. The majority of their legal work is representing Israeli interests. His firm's own website stated, prior
to his appointment, that Feith "represents Israeli Armaments Manufacturer." Feith basically represents the Israeli War Machine.

Elliott Abrams
National Security Council Advisor.
He previously worked at Washington-based "Think Tank" Ethics and Public Policy Center.
During the Reagan Adminstration, Abrams was the Assistant Secretary of State, handling, for the most part, Latin American affairs.
He played an important role in the Iran-Contra Scandal, which involved illegally selling U.S. weapons to Iran to fight Iraq, and
illegally funding the contra rebels fighting to overthrow Nicaragua's Sandinista government. He also actively deceived three
congressional committees about his involvement and thereby faced felony charges based on his testimony. Abrams pled guilty
in 1991 to two misdemeanors and was sentenced to a year's probation and 100 hours of community service. A year later, Bush Sr.
granted Abrams a full pardon. He was one of the more hawkish pro-Israel Jews in the Reagan Administration's State Department.

Dov Zekheim
Under Secretary of Defense.
He was Bush's Jewish foreign policy advisor and reportedly holds Israeli citizenship.

Richard Haass
Director of Policy Planning at the State Department and Ambassador at large.
He is also Director of National Security Programs and Senior Fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR).
He was one of the more hawkish pro-Israel Jews in the first Bush (Sr) Administration who sat on the National Security Council,
and who consistently advocates bombing Iraq.

Henry Kissinger
One of many Pentagon Advisors, Kissinger sits on the Pentagon's Defense Policy Board.
For detailed information about Kissinger's evil past, read Seymour Hersch's book. Kissinger had a part in the
Watergate crimes, Southeast Asia mass murders, Chile dictatorship and reaped investment profits in Yugoslavia.
He consistently advocates bombing Iraq. Kissinger is the Ariel Sharon of the U.S.

James Schlesinger
One of many Pentagon Advisors, Schlesinger also sits on the Pentagon's Defense Policy Board
and is another extremist pro-Israel advisor. He consistently advocates bombing Iraq.

Robert Zoellick
U.S. Trade Representative, a cabinet-level position.
He is also one of the more hawkish pro-Israel Jews in the Bush (Jr) Administration who advocated invading Iraq
and occupying a portion of the country in order to set up setting up a Vichy-style puppet government.
He consistently advocates bombing Iraq.

Marc Grossman
Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs.
He was Director General of the Foreign Service and Director of Human Resources at the Department of State.
Grossman is one of many of the Jewish officials from the Clinton Administration that Bush has promoted to higher posts.

Robert Satloff
U.S. National Security Council Advisor,
Satloff was the executive director of the Israeli lobby's "think tank," Washington Institute for Near East Policy.
Many of the Israeli lobby's "experts" come from this front group, like Martin Indyk.

Mel Sembler
President of the Export-Import Bank of the United States.
A Prominent Jewish Republican and Former National Finance Chairman of the Republican National Committee.
The Export-Import Bank facilitates trade relationships between U.S. businesses and foreign countries,
specifically those with financial problems.

Joshua Bolten
Bush's Chief Policy Director, banker and former legislative aide.
Prominent in the Jewish community.

Steve Goldsmith
Senior Advisor to the President, and Bush's Jewish domestic policy advisor.
He also serves as liaison in the White House Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives (White House OFBCI)
within the Executive Office of the President. He was the former mayor of Indianapolis. He is also friends with Israeli
Jerusalem Mayor Ehud Olmert and often visits Israel to coach mayors on privatization initiatives.

Daniel Saul Goldin
Head of NASA, National Aeronautics and Space Administration.
A leftover from the Clinton Administration, Golding is frequently praised by the Israeli media as a friend of Israel.

Adam Goldman
White House's Special Liaison to the Jewish Community.

Joseph Gildenhorn
Bush Campaign's Special Liaison to the Jewish Community.
He was the DC finance chairman for the Bush campaign, as well as campaign coordinator, and former ambassador to Switzerland.

Christopher Gersten
Former Executive Director of the Republican Jewish Coalition, husband of Labor Secretary, Linda Chavez,
and reportedly very pro-Israel. Their children are being raised in the Jewish faith.

Mark Weinberger
Assistant Secretary of the Treasury.

Samuel Bodman
Deputy Secretary of Commerce.
He was the Chairman and CEO of Cabot Corporation in Boston, Massachusetts.

Bonnie Cohen
Under Secretary of State for Management.

Ruth Davis
Director of Foreign Service Institute,
who reports to the Office of Under Secretary for Management. This Office is responsible for training
all Department of State staff (including ambassadors).

Lincoln Bloomfield
Assistant Secretary of State for Political Military Affairs.

Bush has hired these Israeli lobbyists to the highest positions in the land, he has escalated the bombing of Iraq,
and already sided with Israel in killing Palestinian civilians.

[B]Other men you should know about in the Bush cabinet
...Oil, Drug Company, Military and WTC Financial Connection Giants[/B]

The White House is run by two wealthy oil men Bush and Cheney, who have staffed their administration with oil executives
and other corporate multimillionaires. The White House openly pursues policies in the interests of big business and the rich.
This has evoked no significant outcry from the news media - itself owned by corporate (Jewish) giants (listed above).

National Security Adviser Condoleeza Rice, a former Reagan White House aide and Stanford provost,
is on the board of directors of Chevron 1991-2000 and Charles Schwab, and advises J.P. Morgan.

Budget Director Mitch Daniels was a vice president of drug maker Eli Lilly.

Deputy chief of staff for policy Josh Bolten comes from Goldman Sachs International.

Commerce Secretary Donald Evans, a Texas oil millionaire who is his campaign chairman and closest personal friend.
Evans worked for the oil giant Tom Brown.

Secretary of veterans' affairs, Anthony Principi, was number two in that department underBush's father,
before becoming a corporate executive at Lockheed Martin, the big military contractor.

Paul O'Neill, Treasury, from the boardroom of Alcoa, the world's biggest aluminum maker after 13 years as CEO.
O'Neill was a top-level budget official in the Ford administration, then headed International Paper before joining Alcoa.
A longtime crony of Cheney, O'Neill was recruited for the Alcoa post by Alan Greenspan, then on the board of the giant corporation,
now chairman of the Federal Reserve Board. O'Neill is reportedly worth at least $100 million, and holds options on Alcoa stock
which dwarf those of Cheney at Halliburton, the oil services company Cheney headed for five years.

Donald Rumsfeld, Secretary of Defense, is closely identified with US anti-missile defense system.
Pentagon chief for the last 14 months of the administration of Gerald Ford, 25 years ago, Rumsfeld has since been a corporate CEO.
In 1998 he headed a commission set up by congressional Republicans to promote the missile defense plan,
which is the top military priority of the Bush administration.

Gail Norton Secretary of Interior - a former attorney for the anti-environmentalist Mountain States Legal Foundation,
an aide and protege of James Watt, Reagan's notorious interior secretary, Norton is a right-wing ideologue of the
"property rights" movement, funded by the oil and strip-mining companies.

Stanley Abraham Secretary of Energy introduced legislation to abolish the Department of Energy in 1999, in favor of sweeping
deregulation. The former aide to Vice President Dan Quayle also supports opening the wilderness areas of the Alaska
National Wildlife Refuge to oil drilling . Abraham also worked for oil giant Tom Brown.

Gen. Colin Powell, Secretary of State underscores the militaristic and aggressive foreign policy Bush is committed to.
Powell is former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff during the Persian Gulf War which has killed more than 1.5 million
Iraqi people since the end of the war due to U.S. imposed sanctions.

While Powell's appointment was greeted with near-unanimous approval in the media and from both Democratic and Republican politicians,
there was no attempt to explain why, with the United States essentially unchallenged worldwide as a military power, it was necessary
to put a general in charge of US foreign policy.

Powell is only the third military commander named to head the State Department. The previous two were George C. Marshall,
who was called out of retirement to lead the transition from post-World War II demobilization to the Cold War struggle against
the Soviet Union, and Alexander Haig, the former NATO commander who was chosen by Reagan in 1981 to signal a US
offensive against the USSR. Powell it must be noted, is a dove, and a pawn of the Bush government.

Gen. Wayne Downing, former Commander in Chief of the Special Operations Command, was just appointed as Director of Combatting
Terrorism for the Homeland Defense Board, headed by former Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Ridge. In 1997-98, Downing drew up a military
plan to overthrow Saddam, by assassination, if necessary. The plan hinged on heavily arming dissident gangs of Iraqi Shi'ites in the south
of Iraq, and Kurdish fighters in the north. Invasion by U.S. Special Forces ground troops was not ruled out. The promoter of the
neo-Conservative yahoos in Congress and the think-tanks was Wolfowitz, then head of the Paul Nitze School of Advanced International
Studies at Johns Hopkins University. Unable to ram this plan through the Clinton Administration, Wolfowitz shopped the plan to Perle,
an expert in "chain-letter" pressure politics, who garnered signatures. Now at the NSC, Downing has the ready-made plan to hit Iraq.

Richard Armitage, the number-two man in the U.S. State Department, who was investigated in
the Iran-Contra scandal, and who is a longtime collaborator of Wolfowitz in the targetting of Iraq.

Richard Clarke, Adviser to the President for Cyberspace Warfare. Clarke, who was originally with the State Department during the elder
Bush's Administration, was demoted for covering up Israeli violations of the Arms Exporting laws. In August 1998, Clarke was one of
the key figures who planted false information about Sudan's involvement in the East Africa U.S. Embassy bombings, which led to U.S.
cruise missile attacks on a Sudanese pharmaceutical company in Khartoum. Clarke shopped in disinformation from British-Israeli covert
operations stringer Yosef Bodansky that targetted Sudan.
~ Source: Patrick Martin and Michele Steinberg

It is now extremely clear why all the above cabinet were chosen by George 'Commodus' Bush:
War on Afghanistan (other countries being decided on - definetly Iraq) - Caspian Sea Oil -
Alaskan Oil Drilling (TBD asap) - Anti-Missile Defense System (coming up soon) -
Destruction Of Civil Rights And Censorship (to prevent opposition and dissenters) -
The Protection Of Israel.

[B]Jewish CEO's that run U.S. Media Sources[/B]

STUART BLOOMBERG ABC Head of Entertainment Division.
(up to 1985. Thomas Murphy now CEO but with same Jewish management)

STEVEN FRIEDMAN NBC Executive Producer Nightly News.

DAVID SARNOFF RCA NBC head entertainment div.
RCA and NBC were bought by G.E. in 1986 but Jewish management still exists.

WILLIAM S. PALEY CBS CEO & founder of CBS. 1927. 1983 Partially retired.
JEFF SAGANSKY CBS Head Entertainment Division.
LAWRENCE A. TISCH CBS CEO TV, theaters, hotels, insurance.
(Before him was 1928 William S. Paley son of russian jews. Retired 1983.)


PETER CHERNIN 20th Century Fox. dec. 1992 new CEO
BARRY DILLER 20th Century Fox. CEO

MARTIN S. DAVIS Paramount Comm. CEO
BRANDON TARTIKOFF Paramount pictures. Chairman.


VICTOR A. KAUFMAN Columbia Pictures. CEO
PETER GUBER Columbia Pictures. 1989. Bought by SONY, Guber replaced Kaufman as CEO.
LEW WASSERMAN MCA Inc. CEO. 1991. Bought by SONY. but Wasserman still is CEO.


GARY HERSH Capitol Records CEO


PETER KALIKOW New York Post. Real estate.

PETER R. KANN Dow Jones, Wall St Journal

KATHERINE MEYER GRAHAM Newsweek, Washington Post. Daughter of Eugene Meyer.

SAMUEL NEWHOUSE Random House, Advanced Publications, Newhouse Broadcasting, (CTV), New Yorker Vogue,
Mademoiselle, Glamour, Vanity Fair, HQ, Bride's, Gentleman's Quarterly, Self, House & Garden. Newspapers & mags.

ARTHUR OCHS SULZBERGER New York Times, family circle. McCall's, M. Frankel, J. Lelyveld, J. Rosenthal

MORTIMER ZUCKERMAN US News and World Report, DAILY NEWS. New ceo.

MICHAEL OVITZ Media magnate.

RICHARD SNYDER Simon & Schuster.


ROBERT STRAUSS Large investor, President Bush's Moscow ambassador.

All Jews and this list goes on, so don't come telling me all this media fed garbage caus you don't know shiiit.

posted on Nov, 16 2002 @ 09:23 AM
NWO - New World Order .... of peace !!!

posted on Nov, 16 2002 @ 09:35 AM
I-NWO, you've proved that you can paste a list of Jews from an anti-Israeli site and that you know nothing of the history of that area. To say that the Jews never owned it and that the Palestinians owned itis incorrect.

Do some research and you'll see how Israel came to be, you'll find out when the word "Palestine" was used and you'll find who are the actual Palestinians. As a matter of fact, I've gone in great detail in one or two of the threads in this forum. They'll be buried pretty deep, though, as it has been a long time.

posted on Nov, 16 2002 @ 09:37 AM
You are the ignorant one NWO. My mind has not been courupted by the media. Me a sheep of the media lol. That is bullsh*t..

And now our govemrent is evil?!?

We are not the evil. Bastards like Saddam's regime are the evil in this world.

Since it seems your hate America so much, and u love Saddam, y do'nt we all buy u a plane ticket to Iraq. You seem to be pro-Iraq. And I hope u are not.

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