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reply posted on 16-12-2002 @ 10:02 PM by MakodFilu



Originally posted by mad scientist
Let's face the simple facts here. Europe simply can't compete with US technology and industry.

Ok, nothing to worry then, not?

The more countries that sign on to the JSF program the lower the per unit costs become.
Believe me Australia wouldn't be part of the program if they weren't getting value for money.

As for the JSF being almost as expensive as the F-22, that is entirely wrong.

No one stated that: I stated only that JSF would be far more expensive than Grippens or Makos. Whatever the cost will be lowered, those of the X-35 will never be lower than those of the Mako or the Grippen.


Originally posted by KKing123
...as already stated, the JSF isn't near as expensive as the F-22

and i doubt the EF-2000 is either because they are also different classes of fighter (Eurofighter is multi-role, F-22 is air-dominance so Euro-fighter = F-16/35)

The Eurofighter being multirole doesn't mean it's not for air superiority. The USAF only rejected using F22 for more than ADF.

I reed somewhere whilst F22 defeats Su-35 90% of the time, EF2000 does in 'only' 80%. Not bad, i think.
[edit] found:
www.eurofighter.starstreak.net...

About EF-2000 vs Rafale, maybe i was a little harsh:
pub14.ezboard.com... opic

Pease, before you comment this thread, read the *whole* of it: initial specs are wrong. It's also educational to see how the fighter market works (Korea choosing F-15 over Typhoons or Rafales or X-35s )

[Edited on 2002-12-17 by MakodFilu]



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reply posted on 16-12-2002 @ 10:29 PM by KKing123


multi-role means just that, multiple roles, air-superiority being one of them, but not the primary role, the Eurofighter is more comparable with the F-16, and the F-35 then it is to the F-22



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reply posted on 16-12-2002 @ 10:32 PM by MakodFilu


Did you see the links? I guess not: just see what comparable is the F-16 to the EF-2000.

The F-16 is way too far behind.

...and the X-35 is not even near as well...

[Edited on 2002-12-17 by MakodFilu]



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reply posted on 16-12-2002 @ 10:37 PM by KKing123


of course it's behind, i wasn't reffering to generation, i was refering to mostly role and size



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reply posted on 22-12-2002 @ 03:41 AM by ultra_phoenix



Originally posted by MakodFilu

Pease, before you comment this thread, read the *whole* of it: initial specs are wrong. It's also educational to see how the fighter market works (Korea choosing F-15 over Typhoons or Rafales or X-35s )




The F-15 Eagle was the best eighties/nineties fighter, and it still a good one. But I think that the South-Koreans did a mistake.



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