Originally posted by THENEO
Oh goody! We have a disinfo spook here to shoot us all down!

Who do you work for?

LOL. I know I am winning a debate when the ad hominem attacks start.

Now on to the facts.

Contrails dissipate faster no matter where they originate from nor the type of plane or the era they were photographed.

So look closely at the following photograph. Note hoe the B17s at the lower altitude are barely emitting contrails if they are at all. Note how the one contrails from the plane just above the photographer are rapidly dissipating. Then look at the contrails from the planes at higher altitudes. Note how they are not disipating rapidly, are they chemtrails? Were chemtrails a part of the 8th Army’s arsenal?

Two you did not produce any photos showing the mass sprayers that emit from the entire tail of a plane.

Furthermore there are many patents that people have dug up that show such devices likely exist.

People have come forward as mechanics saying they have worked on such projects and have been threatened even though they work for private contractors.

Originally posted by THENEO
When you are not the best informed on a subject then you do not have the right to act like you are an expert.

It is called courtesy.

Frankly when you attack others and put them down based upon incomplete knowledge on a subject then you deserve a potshot IMHO.

The board exists for people to share and learn and there will always be opinions, true. But you have to have the ability to defend them too.

Also due to the nature of the general topic that this board covers being Conspiracy' one has to accept that proof is hard to come by and subject to scrutiny. This ain't the science channel. On the other hand the science channel ain't run by the people either...

I sometimes get annoyed when the mods here allow rookies and cranks to attack people that are trying to do the right thing and they paint both sides with the same brush. That is unfair and something that happens a lot here.

Anyways my struggle to improve ATS continues...

Now on to the topic at hand,

If you want to really know whether Chemtrails exist do some more homework and then we will discuss the finer' details of this subject which I am able to get down and dirty with anyone here. I used to post a chemtrail watch on the web 4 years ago on a regular basis when few people even knew what the heck they were.

I challenge you to prove that they are just smoke or condensation from planes with known commercial operations or routine military or spook activities.

“Chemtrails” also appear in House Resolution 2977. Introduced last October by Ohio Rep. Dennis Kucinich, this bill called for the peaceful uses of space, and a ban on “exotic weapons”. Section 7 of the “Space Preservation Act of 2001” sought specifically to prohibit “chemtrails”.

Kucinich recently told the Columbus Alive newspaper (Jan. 24, 2002) that despite official denials, as head of the Armed Services oversight committee he is well acquainted with chemtrail projects. “The truth is there’s an entire program in the Department of Defense, ‘Vision for 2020,’ that’s developing these weapons,” Kucinich told reporter Bob Fitrakis. The U.S. Space Command’s 2020 vision calls for “dominance” of space, land, sea and air.

Canadians were the first to complain about chemtrails to their federal government. On Nov. 18, 1999, NDP Defense critic Gordon Earl petitioned Parliament on behalf of 550 residents of Espanola, Ontario to “repeal any law that would permit the dispersal of military chaff or of any cloud-seeding substance whatsoever by domestic or foreign military aircraft without the informed consent of the citizens of Canada thus affected.”

According to CBC Newsworld (Aug 29, 1999), “Many in the community have reported respiratory problems and strange aches and pains. Town council heard that some believe military jets are dropping material over the town as part of a weather experiment” - after laboratory tests confirmed the presence of aluminum in rainwater falling through chemtrails over Espanola five-times higher than provincial health safety limits.

The first break in an investigation begun by the Environment News Service in Jan. 1999, came 11 months later when Victoria airport authority Terry Stewart returned a call to a Victoria resident concerned about the X’s and grid patterns being laid over the B.C. capitol. “It’s a military exercise, a U.S. and Canada air force exercise that’s going on,” Stewart reported on Dec. 8, 2000. “They wouldn’t give me any specifics on it.”