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reply posted on 6-12-2003 @ 03:09 PM by HowardRoark
Originally posted by Bangin
HowardRoark, thanks for your input.

I feel as if these were being made for a reason. I haven't established a viewpoint as to why, but I'd love to know.

I saw multiple aircraft in the sky (at the same time) and their flight pattern seemed irregular. Why does this 'normal' occurrence seem unusual to me? It's not happening today, nor did it happen yesterday.

I certainly do not know much about aviation, but I know enough to recognize an irregularity in the sky. By the way, I'm an avid sky watcher.


Trail formation is dependent on weather conditions. In general contrails will form at high altitudes based on the following conditions

Temperature. At a typical airline cruise altitude, it is around -40 or colder.

Relative humidity with respect to ice and supersaturation: This is the key parameter that determines if a contrail will dissipate shortly after formation, it will persist, or even if the conditions are right, if it will grow.

Moisture supersaturation happens quite often at high altitudes, especially prior to the passage of a weather front. What happens is that moisture-laden air is lifted up and cooled by the normal weather dynamics. Because this air is actually rather clean, there are insufficient particles present to allow the super saturated moisture to condense (or actually freeze) into ice crystals (as in a cloud)

When a jet passes through this air it does three things, it adds even more moisture (water is a principle component of jet exhaust), it adds a concentrated swath of particles (unburned or partially burned fuel and soot), and it disturbs the air by its passage causing wake vortexes that persist for a while after the plane has departed.

These three things are why contrails form and persist.

Why do you see the one day and not the next? Because the atmospheric conditions are different, that is why.

The right conditions happen more often in winter than in summer, so keep watching.



reply posted on 6-12-2003 @ 08:06 PM by energy_wave
www.physics.ucla.edu...


This part...While these curtains conceivably could be used one day to cleanse the stratosphere directly over major cities throughout the globe.

They are not using Wong's devices but maybe his technic?

Maybe thats why they spray over major industrial areas all the time.

www.physics.ucla.edu...


reply posted on 6-12-2003 @ 08:09 PM by energy_wave
www.physics.ucla.edu...

Research Interest:

Professor Wong is director of the Plasma Physics Laboratory at UCLA, and director of the HIPAS Observatory at Fairbanks, Alaska.

Professor Wong's specialization lies in the physics of ions in plasmas, in areas of linear and nonlinear wave phenomena, cyclotron waves, ion acoustic waves, drift waves, microwave radiation, electron and ion wave echoes, nonlinear dynamic equilibria, and mode coupling. He has worked with fully ionized plasmas in Q devices, designed surface confinement devices and participated in ionospheric wave excitation experiments since 1970. In addition, he has worked with superconducting magnets and negative ion beams. He has been consultant to industrial and government labs in the areas of isotope separation, ion sources, ion beam acceleration, non-neutral ion plasmas and space exploration. He has applied basic plasma physics to finding a solution to the ozone depletion problem. Professor Wong has opened new areas in environmental physics and is the author of the widely used laboratory


reply posted on 6-12-2003 @ 08:20 PM by energy_wave
www.hipas.alaska.edu...

Does this sound like HAARP or what?

[Edited on 6-12-2003 by energy_wave]


reply posted on 6-12-2003 @ 09:17 PM by HowardRoark

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