Russian vs. USA Tech

Originally posted by HerExcellency
If you consider that he who uses the most, generally makes the best, then here are the facts. (all financial figures are in dollars unless otherwise noted)

Gross Domestic Production (GDP)
USA-GDP $10.4 Trillion (2002 est.)
Rossiyskaya Federatsiya - $1.35 trillion (2002 est)
most of these money are used to build war products!

Electrical production
USA- 3.719 trillion kWh (2001)
Russia- 846.5 billion kWh (2001)
doesnt look like it
look at the east coast black out!

Electrical consumption
USA-3.479 trillion kWh (2001)
Russia-773.08 billion kWh (2001)
less people are in Russia

Exports
USA - $687 billion (2002)
Russia-104.6 billion (2002)
most of these are war products
Imports
USA - $1.165 trillion (2002)
Russia - $60.7 billion (2002)
who needs to import things when they could make them?!

Communications:
telephones (mainlines)
USA - 194 million (1997)
Russia - 30 million (1998)
less people and people are not to lazy to go across the street and talk to their neighbors instead of calling

cellular phones
USA - 69.209 million (1998)
Russia - 19 million (2003)
does every kid need a cellphone?!

ISP's
USA- 7000 (2002)
Russia - 300 (2002)
what ever that means!

Internet Users
USA - 165.75 million (2002)
Russia - 18 million (2002)
to much bull# in the newspaper so they just read the paper!

Now all this information is public knowledge and what we can glean from this is that the USA makes and spends more money than Russia. Under the theory that if you spend more money, you'll make better stuff. The US has the advantage.

Here's another way to look at it. When you consider the last several global or regional conflicts. The merchandise with Made in USA generally won. In the conflicts where Russian made mechandise was the victor it was generally against other Russian made stuff. I realize that is a broad stroke generalization, but a telling one nonetheless.

last point. Collisions. Americans are very fond of smashing up their stuff oftentimes just to see how it performs. In head to head collisions with former soviet submarines, not one US submarine had to be scrapped, or was unable to make it to home port under their own power. Not true in the case of Russian ordinance. Again, a broad statement, but your question was also intentionally broad.

hrxll

Originally posted by bisonn
T-80U in Chechnya just happened to survive 18(!) RPG hits.

Oh yeah it has 1100mm of frontal armor vs abrams 800mm!

Originally posted by Russian
Why does it say laxpla posted on this thread and when i look i dont see any post from him?!

Originally posted by Russian

Originally posted by MarkLuitzen


[Edited on 1-12-2003 by MarkLuitzen]

Originally posted by bisonn
Sites on new russian stuff:
www.rusarm.ru (everything)
www.shipunov.com (mostly firearms and artillery)
www.zid.ru (machine-guns and tank fired ATGM's)
www.morozov.com.ua (OK, its Ukrainian, upgraded T-80's and T-72's for the most part)
www.armor.kiev.ua... russian tanks page
www.armor.kiev.ua... tanks page
62.118.252.237... (Omsk 1999 arms exhibition)


[Edited on 17-10-1983 by bisonn]

Originally posted by greenkoolaid
This is perhaps the stupidest go nowhere thread on this site. Why not just have an arguement over whose dad is stronger.

Originally posted by WeBDeviL
Ok now the tensions need to calm down.

Here is my point of view.

U.S. > Russia in POWER / Trade / Economy.

Hell, California itself had the 5th biggest economy in the world, and the U.S. was #1.

The U.S. still has a little edge of Russia. Why? Because of Russia's fall, it slowed it down. Russia is creeping back though, and the U.S. and Russia are or were the only true super powers in modern history (excluding Nazi Germany.)

So, all in all, at the present moment, the U.S. still has the edge over Russia power wise. Military wise? Let us all hope that these two caged dogs don't fight eachother anytime soon, it would be a mistake for each country, and the world.

Peace.

-wD