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posted on Nov, 28 2003 @ 07:02 PM
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but GAZ-3937 replace the brdm,
here is a pic: legion.wplus.net...




posted on Nov, 28 2003 @ 07:02 PM
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SectorGaza please post some specs on the GAZ-3937.

[Edited on 28-11-2003 by Russian]



posted on Nov, 28 2003 @ 07:07 PM
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posted on Nov, 28 2003 @ 07:07 PM
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Originally posted by Russian
SectorGaza please post some specs on the GAZ-3937.

[Edited on 28-11-2003 by Russian]



The vehicle is intended for reconnaissance, patrol, search and rescue missions of military and police units.
The vehicle is based on the GAZ-3937 Multi-purpose Platform design. Modular design provides wide opportunities to customise this vehicle to a variety of particular mission


4 x4 formula with front wheels drive disengagement capability;
steering booster;
independent torsion suspension;
centralised tire pumping system;
bullet-proof windows and tires;
heating / air conditioning system;
decontamination equipment;
radio set and intercom equipment;
smooth bottom and high clearance;

optional protection against light artillery and heavy infantry weapons.


better then HUMVEE
it is also amphibious



posted on Nov, 28 2003 @ 07:11 PM
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If you put it vs the Humvee then yes its better.



posted on Nov, 28 2003 @ 07:13 PM
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What do you people thing of F-16 vs the Mig-29.

or is that not a fair battle.

the mig is about 8 years younger.



posted on Nov, 28 2003 @ 07:17 PM
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i know that nothing the US has can be compared to russian anti-tactical ballistic missile/anti aircraft system, the s-300v/s400/antey and its variants, not even the new patriot
and russia got more then 2000 of them.

The S-300V is designed to provide air
defense for troops and cover vital
military and civil installations from
battlefield, tactical and air-laun ched
ballistic missiles, aircrafts of all
types (including Stealth) and strategic
cruise missiles.


s-400 specs:
Maximum effective range 120 km 9M96 missile
400 km "big" missile
it can intercept targets with velocities of up to 4.8 km/sec,
video:
www.rusarm.ru...



The system employs the most modern
technical concepts including:
- high-speed digital computers,
including missile-borne ones;
- phased array antennas for all
radar assets;
- modern methods of radar signal
processing;
- vertical missile launch from the
container with subsequent turning of
the missile towards its target;
- missiles with high speed and
acceleration;
- potential use of information from
external sources.

The S-300V comprises:
- command port;
- surveillance radar;
- sector scanning radar;
- multichannel missile guidance station;
- two types of launchers
(total number up to 24);
- two types of loader-launchers
(up to 12);
- surface-to-air guided missiles
(up to 192);

[Edited on 28-11-2003 by SectorGaza]



posted on Nov, 28 2003 @ 07:24 PM
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All you US tech lovers do you have anything to say?


OMG

thats a very scary weapon.

even the US tech shut up



posted on Nov, 28 2003 @ 07:27 PM
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Originally posted by Russian
All you US tech lovers do you have anything to say?


OMG

thats a very scary weapon.

even the US tech shut up


The S-400 is designed to hit modern and future attack aircraft at a distance of 400 km: tactical and strategic aviation jets, cruises of the Tomahawk type and other missiles", the article notes. Triumf successfully fights air targets, manufactured with the use of "stealth" technology at all altitudes of their combat operation and at maximum distances. When creating this system, Russian specialists used latest technologies in the radar industry, microelement base and computer engineering.


and now, guess what?
they made an air launched version of the 400+ km AA missile, imagine a group of mig-31 with these missiles escorted with sukhoi fighters
now THAT is deadly





posted on Nov, 28 2003 @ 07:30 PM
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Originally posted by SectorGaza


The S-400 is designed to hit modern and future attack aircraft at a distance of 400 km: tactical and strategic aviation jets, cruises of the Tomahawk type and other missiles", the article notes. Triumf successfully fights air targets, manufactured with the use of "stealth" technology at all altitudes of their combat operation and at maximum distances. When creating this system, Russian specialists used latest technologies in the radar industry, microelement base and computer engineering.


and now, guess what?
they made an air launched version of the 400+ km AA missile, imagine a group of mig-31 with these missiles escorted with sukhoi fighters
now THAT is deadly




Damn SectorGaza you didnt have to beat the US techs into the ground right away.

I wanted to have some fun with them!



posted on Nov, 28 2003 @ 07:50 PM
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Pride can be very devastating.....
Keep hyping and patting yourselves on the back fellas.
I sure don't want to bust that 'bubble'. Faith is a good thing....foolish faith is another.



regards
seekerof



posted on Nov, 28 2003 @ 07:56 PM
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OK check this out:







The Medium Extended Air Defense System (MEADS), is planned to replace Hawk and Patriot systems worldwide. MEADS will protect maneuvering forces and fixed installations against attack by current and next-generation tactical ballistic missiles, low and high altitude cruise missiles, remotely piloted vehicles, maneuvering fixed wing aircraft and rotary wing aircraft. The total system is designed for rapid deployment and tactical mobility.

From : www.army-technology.com...



posted on Nov, 28 2003 @ 07:59 PM
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The THAAD (Theatre High Altitude Area Defense) missile system is an easily transportable defensive weapon system to protect against hostile incoming threats such as tactical and theatre ballistic missiles at ranges of 200km and at altitudes up to 150km.

The THAAD system provides the upper tier of a "layered defensive shield" to protect high value strategic or tactical sites such as airfields or populations centers. The THAAD missile intercepts exo-atmospheric and endo-atmospheric threats. The sites would also be protected with lower and medium tier defensive shield systems such as the Patriot PAC-3 which intercepts hostile incoming missiles at 20 to 100 times lower altitudes.

THAAD MISSILE INFORMATION
The target object data and the predicted intercept point are downloaded to the missile prior to launch. The updated target and intercept data are also transmitted to the missile in flight.

The missile is 6.17m in length and is equipped with a single stage solid fuel rocket motor with thrust vectoring. The rocket motor is supplied by Chemical Systems Division of Pratt & Whitney. The launch weight is 900kg.

A separation motor is installed at the interstage at the forward end of the booster section. The separation motor assists in the separation of the kinetic kill vehicle (KKV) and the spent boost motor.

The shroud separates from the KV before impact. The KV is equipped with a liquid Divert and Attitude Control System (DACS) developed by Boeing, formerly the Rocketdyne division of Rockwell International, for the terminal maneuvering towards the target intercept point. A gimbal-mounted infrared seeker module in the nose section provides terminal homing to close in on the target missile in the terminal phase of approach.

During the initial fly-out phase of flight, the seeker window is covered with a two-piece clamshell protection shroud. Metal bladders installed in the shroud are inflated to eject the protective shroud before the seeker initiates target acquisition. The infrared seeker head, developed by BAe Systems, is an indium antimonide (InSb) staring focal plane array operating in the mid infrared 3 to 5 micron wavelength band.

M1075 TRUCK MOUNTED LAUNCHER
There are nine M1075 truck mounted launchers in a typical THAAD battery. Launch vehicle is a modified Oshkosh Truck Corporation Heavy Expanded Mobility Tactical Truck with Load Handling System (HEMTT-LHS). The 12m long by 3.25m wide launch vehicle carries ten missile launch containers. While on the launcher, lead acid batteries provide the primary power. The batteries are recharged with a low noise generator.

After firing, reloading the launch vehicle takes 30 minutes.

GROUND BASED RADAR
The cueing for the THAAD system is provided by the Raytheon Systems Ground Based Radar (GBR) for surveillance, threat classification and threat identification. THAAD can also be cued by military surveillance satellites such as Brilliant Eyes.

The ground based radar units are C-130 air transportable. The radar uses a 9.2m aperture full field of view antenna phased array operating at I and J bands and containing 25,344 solid state microwave transmit and receive modules. The radar has the capability to acquire missile threats at ranges up to 1,000km.

TACTICAL OPERATIONS CENTER
Each THAAD battery has two tactical operations centers (TOC). The TOC has been developed by Northrop Grumman, formerly Litton Data Systems Division. The TOC accommodates two operator stations and is equipped with three Hewlett-Packard HP-735 data processors.

MOBILE BMC3I UNITS
The THAAD system is able to "hand over" targets to other defense systems and can cue the targets to other weapons. THAAD is able to interface to other US or allied air defense data information networks and to the battle management and command control and communications center.

Northrop Grumman has been contracted to develop the THAAD BMC3I. The Battle Management and Command, Control, Computers and Intelligence (BMC3I) units are installed in hardened shelters mounted on High Mobility Multi-Wheeled Vehicles (HMMWVs).

The THAAD communications system can use JTIDS, Mobile Subscriber Equipment, SINCGARS and the Joint Tactical Terminal for voice and data communications and for intelligence data transfer

From: www.army-technology.com...



posted on Nov, 28 2003 @ 07:59 PM
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it uses Patriot PAC-3 missiles, maybe it can be compared to older s200 series



posted on Nov, 28 2003 @ 08:01 PM
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The new missiles are much improved than older versions.



posted on Nov, 28 2003 @ 08:01 PM
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i heard the thaad is crap, many tests failed
, it can be compared with pmu1 systems.



posted on Nov, 28 2003 @ 08:01 PM
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Originally posted by jetsetter
OK check this out:







The Medium Extended Air Defense System (MEADS), is planned to replace Hawk and Patriot systems worldwide. MEADS will protect maneuvering forces and fixed installations against attack by current and next-generation tactical ballistic missiles, low and high altitude cruise missiles, remotely piloted vehicles, maneuvering fixed wing aircraft and rotary wing aircraft. The total system is designed for rapid deployment and tactical mobility.

From : www.army-technology.com...



These are just plans.

There is no such thing yet.

If you want to go by plans then so be it.

Russians have enough of those!



posted on Nov, 28 2003 @ 08:04 PM
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Originally posted by jetsetter


The radar has the capability to acquire missile threats at ranges up to 1,000km.




compare it with 3,500 km of s-300v



posted on Nov, 28 2003 @ 08:07 PM
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Originally posted by SectorGaza
i heard the thaad is crap, many tests failed
, it can be compared with pmu1 systems.


No, I have just researched and it is doing well. It has performed interceptions and has performed them well.



posted on Nov, 28 2003 @ 08:08 PM
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"Maximum effective range 120 km 9M96 missile
400 km "big" missile" s-400


"protect against hostile incoming threats such as tactical and theatre ballistic missiles at ranges of 200km and at altitudes up to 150km." THAAD

The THAAD has worse range on their defense missiles then the s-400.





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