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Basketball: artest asked for some "time off"

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posted on Nov, 10 2004 @ 08:23 PM
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the world of todays spoiled prima donna atheletes never ceases to amaze me, just when you think you have seen it all someone like this comes along and lowers the bar again, not even 2 weeks into the season and he is tired because he is out promoting his new rap album, go figure.....


Artest asked Carlisle to sit down

By JON KRAWCZYNSKI, AP Sports Writer
November 10, 2004
INDIANAPOLIS (AP) -- Indiana Pacers forward Ron Artest said Wednesday that he asked coach Rick Carlisle for time off because of a busy schedule that included promoting a soon-to-be released rap album, which led to his two-game benching.

Artest held a short news conference before Wednesday night's game against the Los Angeles Clippers, and in his usual ambiguous manner, tried to explain why he was benched.

Artest said that he asked Carlisle for as much as a month off to heal his aching body and recover from a particularly busy schedule.


``My body has been aching, I was going to take some time off and I said it the wrong way,'' Artest said. ``Everything that happened wasn't too negative. I kind of surprised the team by wanting to take some games off, just to get back together, maybe stay home for a little bit, rest a little bit and come back.''

He certainly surprised Carlisle, who said Tuesday that the situation, ``compromised the integrity of the team. It's a private team matter, and I'm going to leave it at that.''

``I don't know what that means,'' Artest said. ``They probably expected a little more; expected me to play every game. Everybody's different. It's early in the season, so I feel like I could take some time off early and be ready for the long stretch.''

So Carlisle benched Artest for Tuesday night's win over Minnesota and Wednesday night's game against the Clippers. It is not a suspension, and Artest will not lose any salary. He will return Friday at Philadelphia.

The 24-year-old is scheduled to release his debut rap album later this month and has been spending a lot of time making promotional appearances.

``I've been doing a little bit too much music, just needed the rest,'' Artest said. ``I've still got my album coming out Nov. 23. After the album comes out I'm going to make sure all of my time is focused on winning a championship.''

It's the latest in a long line of controversial situations for Artest, ranging from destroying television monitors at Madison Square Garden two years ago to missing the team flight to Game 6 of the Eastern Conference finals at Detroit last season.

Carlisle tried to downplay the issue before the game Wednesday night.

``This isn't the Cuban missile crisis. It's not life or death, it's not about national security,'' Carlisle said. ``It's just simply about a group of guys needing to remind ourselves -- all of us -- about the sanctity of team, and what it's about.''

The message appears to have landed with Artest.

``It was a good decision,'' Artest said. ``I need the rest. There's a lot of things going on.''

When asked if he thought the punishment fit the crime, Artest said, ``There was no crime done. I think it helped out. I was tired.

``I was doing a lot. I was running around a lot and doing a whole bunch of stuff and I've also been working out, so I think I wore myself down physically, I wore myself down mentally. I was ready to take some time off, at least like a month off, but two games is enough.''

With so many injuries, the last thing the Pacers needed was to lose another player, especially one of their two All-Stars.

The Pacers played with just nine players against the Clippers.

Nevertheless, Carlisle said he would not play Artest.

``We've spent a lot of time and a lot of money this summer traveling, working guys out, working toward a plan to win this year and that plan was built around team,'' Carlisle said. ``It's important in this early stage that we're steadfast in that understanding.''




posted on Nov, 10 2004 @ 09:04 PM
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"I kind of surprised the team by wanting to take some games off, just to get back together, maybe stay home for a little bit, rest a little bit and come back.''



"They probably expected a little more; expected me to play every game. Everybody's different. It's early in the season, so I feel like I could take some time off early and be ready for the long stretch.''



"I've been doing a little bit too much music, just needed the rest,'' Artest said. "



"I was doing a lot. I was running around a lot and doing a whole bunch of stuff and I've also been working out, so I think I wore myself down physically, I wore myself down mentally. I was ready to take some time off, at least like a month off, but two games is enough.''



Unfreakinbelievable.



posted on Nov, 10 2004 @ 10:08 PM
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I went to my boss today and asked for a few games off, i got sent to the minors...

I wonder wht the f#$k these guys would be like if they had to hold a real job. Wait, I've worked with people like that, lazy a$$ biatches.




posted on Nov, 11 2004 @ 12:04 AM
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this sucks...i'm a huge artest fan too, this kind of puts a damper on my liking of him. i may have to rethink this...



posted on Nov, 11 2004 @ 09:12 AM
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I just saw Woody Paige say that "maybe Artest has a mental disorder".



Yeah, 'rond here, we call it arrogant laziness...



posted on Nov, 11 2004 @ 08:24 PM
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i heard a radio report that he had originally wanted to take a month off but settled for 2 games, also since he was only benched and not suspended he will be paid for the games he was rested for



posted on Nov, 11 2004 @ 09:28 PM
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ESPN's Stephen A Smith said simply "He's not playing with a full deck".


I wouldn't want to play with the guy after those comments. :angry-smiley-034:



posted on Nov, 12 2004 @ 04:23 PM
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he took the time off so that he could be with his family. he said he's not even in it for the money, and he might even consider retiring to spend more time with his family. i was afraid i was going to have to not like him anymore. but i gotta say, it is his decision, and it's not like he's complaining about not having enough money or anything, he wants to spend time with his family. i think i can respect that. there are worse things he could be doing...



posted on Nov, 12 2004 @ 04:34 PM
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Originally posted by kooshdoctor
he took the time off so that he could be with his family.


Thats news to me, I havent heard this excuse yet. Just that he's too tired and needs some rest is all I've heard. It's still not a legit excuse, he's part of a team and asking for time off to rest is absurd.



posted on Nov, 12 2004 @ 07:14 PM
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i haven't seen anything about wanting to be with his family either, a sports columnist today said that he was a "serial idiot"...i would have to agree



posted on Nov, 13 2004 @ 07:11 PM
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He maybe a strange bloke but he is a bloody good player just check his stats for friday night 29 points 6 rebounds 5 assists
1steal 2 blocks and 3 3pointers (i know oneal had better stats)
a bloody fantasy dream and as most peeps know if Artest goes missing for the Pacers well they can forget about the title just check out there performance against the Clippers on wednesday



posted on Nov, 13 2004 @ 10:27 PM
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i realize that it doesn't seem like he's the most wonderful role model right now, but we do need to have priorities, and realize that sports aren't life, and he does have a family to attend to as well. i know maybe he didn't go about it the best way, but it certainly doesn't affect his performance on the court. that's pretty clear.



posted on Nov, 13 2004 @ 11:07 PM
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koosh, where did you read that he took time off to be with his family?



posted on Nov, 14 2004 @ 02:13 AM
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i've read it all over the place. i'll try to find an actual article on like espn or something and i'll paste it on here.



posted on Nov, 14 2004 @ 10:41 AM
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ok this is what i've found:

"My body has been aching, I was going to take some time off and I said it the wrong way," Artest said. "Everything that happened wasn't too negative. I kind of surprised the team by wanting to take some games off, just to get back together, maybe stay home for a little bit, rest a little bit and come back." (espn.com)

ESPN.com: Whom, specifically, did you ask for time off?


Artest: I did it the wrong way. I talked to a few players first and then the coach. I wish I would have done it a little bit differently. Coach told me I wouldn't be playing in two games, and he always makes good decisions. The whole team was behind his decision.


ESPN.com: Are you physically well enough to play Friday against Philadelphia?


Artest: I'm OK. I'm going to play through my injuries. I'm going to be tired for the rest of my life. I like to be tired. I like to be hurt. If I'm not tired and I'm not hurt, the game is not fun. … When we were 3-0, I wasn't even supposed to play (against Chicago). But I played. I had something wrong with my knee; my patella is slightly in the wrong spot. I hurt my shoulder and then I have a nagging foot injury. But last year, when I had surgery on my hand, I came back in 10 days. Nobody is ever back from surgery in 10 days and playing and producing. I think I'm one of the few guys who gets better every year. I'm on my way to being an MVP and champion.

ESPN.com: Do you understand why the Pacers don't want to let you take a month off?


Artest: I agree with them. They depend on me. There's not many people that make $6 million a year (who can be called) a franchise player. I'm not paid as much as a T-Mac or a Kobe or a Shaq, but they really look at me as a franchise player. When I first came into the NBA, I didn't look at myself as a franchise player. … But if they would have accepted it, I would have been gone for a month or a month and a half and not worried about the pay.

ESPN.com: Can the Pacers really count on you for the rest of the season?


Artest: I'll be here for the rest of the season. I didn't play the last two games, but I talked to who I had to talk to. I'll be playing for the rest of the season.


ESPN.com: There have also been suggestions that you and Jermaine O'Neal aren't getting along so well. What's your relationship like?


Artest: Everybody in the NBA, you don't have to be talking (off the court) to go out there and do a job. Jermaine is the MVP of our team. He should have been MVP (of the league) last year. It's a good fit between us on the court. It's perfect, along with Stephen Jackson. Stephen Jackson could easily be an All-Star this year. I'll give up my All-Star spot for Stephen Jackson.


ESPN.com: You are working on an album of your own, right?


Artest: When I have off days, I go into the studio. But I'm not really anxious to drop mine (on the public). … I'll be singing on some tracks and rapping on some tracks. I'm speaking to kids on there. There's no cursing. Kids can listen to it and adults can listen to it. … When I do (release) it, you'll be able to download it. I'm not in it to make money. But don't download Allure -- go buy that album.

just some food for thought, just what i found and stuff. i don't want everyone to hate artest, he's not the worst guy ever. he just went about things the wrong way this time.



posted on Nov, 14 2004 @ 10:54 AM
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He should think before he speaks



posted on Nov, 14 2004 @ 01:13 PM
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yeah i think a lot of pro athletes tend to have that problem...



posted on Nov, 14 2004 @ 02:17 PM
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My body has been aching, I was going to take some time off and I said it the wrong way," Artest said. "Everything that happened wasn't too negative. I kind of surprised the team by wanting to take some games off, just to get back together, maybe stay home for a little bit, rest a little bit and come back." (espn.com)


i would think that the off season would be the time to "take some time off and stay home for a bit"...even though he is only making 6 million a year he owes the team and the fans enough that he should be able to show up rested and in shape




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