posted on May, 1 2006 @ 02:47 PM
Yes, I can.
TO THIS POINT IN TIME, I would rank Clemens as the greatest righty of all time, and Pedro second (and to hell with Walter Johnson, Cy Young, etc.),
because Clemens has pitched much longer, won many more games, won two more ERA titles, etc. I don't care about the Cy Young Awards: the sportswriters
hate him, so they've f'ed him out of several of those, most outrageously so the year they gave it to Zito.
He, and not Clemens, has the all-time best career Adjusted ERA, and it's not even close. All other pitchers with 10 or more years are behind the
great master, Grove, who won 9 ERA titles in bad/terrible parks for southpaws in a 17-year career. Pedro, on the other hand, has a career Adjusted
ERA which will have to fall a long way to be below Grove's... THAT is how much better he currently is than all other pitchers of all-time.
So who cares what the sportswriters say?
And oh, yes: His won-loss percentage is preposterous. Now, mind you, Grove's is pretty preposterous, too, at 300-141, and if you take away his first
two years and last two years, it's something like 263-103, which nobody would ever touch... except maybe Pedro. His record is 202-84, which is just
about the same thing--> only a slightly lower percentge, with well fewer wins.
So yes, Pedro Martinez is the greatest inning-for-inning pitcher of all time, to date. But if he wants to be the greatest PITCHER of all time, or at
least the greatest RIGHTY of all time, he will have to win a lot more games. And even if his given birth date is valid, he'll be 35 this October.
He can be thankful Grove spent those 5 years caught up in that independent minor league team, and therefore "only" won 300 games.
But Clemens didn't, and it would be hard to rate Clemens behind a man who, while clearly better on an inning-for-inning basis, has about 140 fewer
wins and two fewer ERA titles.
In my opinion, people who want Pedro to be the best inning-for-inning pitcher ever are already there, with room to spare. But people who want him as
the greatest OVERALL PITCHER ever have at least 2 guys to pass (Grove & Clemens).