Overlooked 9/11 conspiracy, page 1
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Topic started on 24-11-2003 @ 11:18 AM by FreedomOfSpeech
This is my theory:

J. major is in crises over increesing debt from ww1 and 2 and if they do actually go to war they wont have enough money to fight so B. clinton wanting a bit of extra money says to major do this framing and bomb the wtc and i will let u have a bit of cash outta it if major says no clinton will just increase his debt each month so he has gotta say yeah and they plan for major to get planes and crash into wtc but countries got leak and heard about this so major and clinton decide well its about time we start framing someone so they get the taleda towarn them and say it was al queda to when bush and blair come into power they make sure blair is eleceted until this is over and major and clinton obviously dont wanna be a part of this when it goes down so they come out of power and let blair and bush take over they either blackmail or make them do it or it was part of the plan all along for blair and bush to frame al quada so sept 11 2001 is happens for all the world to see they blame osma and al quada test out their bombs on them bush and blair get loadsa money to pay off debt and prepare for war with iraq to get even more money from oil fields america and england especially america are getting sympathy to destroy any country that is a threat so sept 11 wont happen again with the sympathy of the american and england nation they go ahead with it slowly getting away with the millions they made and getting rid of that debt from ww1 and 2. and since clinton and major didnt really want it on their shoulders to deal with they make someone else do it whilst they have their millions
in retirement. The reason i think it started with b. Clinton and J. Major is because they were warnings for this since aprox 1995



Here are some intresting facts:

On September 11th 2001, there was a “terrorist” attack on the United States, two planes had flown into the North and South World Trade Center, another plane hit the pentagon, and a final plane crashed in Pennsylvania believed to be on the way to Camp David.
But there is more to this than most people think, this document will present facts which question if September 11th was really a terrorist attack, or if it was allowed to happen.

• No live cameras were pointed at the towers since no one knew what was going to happen. However, coincidently a French camera crew was taping a video about NY firemen close by when the first airplane hit

There has been a lot of talk about all the things related to September 11th adding up to 11, here is our conclusion:

Date of the attack: 9/11 = 9 + 1 + 1 = 11.
September 11th is the 254th day of the year: 2 + 5 + 4 = 11.
After September 11th there are 111 days left to the end of the year.
Twin Towers - standing side by side, looks like the number 11.
The first plane to hit the towers was Flight 11.
New York - The 11th State added to the Union.
New York City - 11 Letters.
The Pentagon - 11 Letters.
Afghanistan - 11 Letters.
Flight 11 -> 92 on board - 9 + 2 = 11.
Flight 77 -> 65 on board - 6 + 5 = 11.
Now here is the creepy bit, the leaders, present and past of America and Britain:
1990 – 1997 = JOHN MAJOR – 9 letters
1992 – 2000 = BILL CLINTON – 11 letters

1997 - ???? = TONY BLAIR- 9 letters
2000 - ???? = GEORGE BUSH – 11 letters


The first aeroplane appeared to have a white tail: a trait that the American Airlines’ fleet does not display. – This was not an American plane.

The 767 series airplanes are twin engine; they have one engine mounted under each wing. No engines can be observed on the airplane’s wings in the video.
In the video, one can see the airplane firing a shot into the building prior to impact.

The frame firing the shot was originally broadcast on all news stations, but has since been edited out of the commercially available version of this video. Why? Take a look at the frame directly before impact and see for yourself the explosion on the building before impact.

The second hit occurred about 9:06 AM, roughly 15 minutes after the first. By that time many news cameras were in position and, no question about it, this is a REAL 767 flying into the second tower. However, there are a few problems:

What is obvious about the second airplane is that there is a large object about the size of an engine mounted under the belly. This object is completely inconsistent with a standard 767. One has to realize that on airplanes, unlike cars, modifications of any kind are public knowledge and are signed off by the manufacturer as well as the FAA. There is no evidence whatsoever of the existence of this “pod” underneath any commercially flying 767 in the world today.




WTC Building Number 7


This is a 48-story side building to the WTC complex. Airplanes nor debris never hit Building 7, yet it collapsed after catching fire making it the first steel framed building in history to collapse strictly due to fire. The official report is that the foundation was tainted due to the collapse of the other two towers, but none of the other, closer, buildings collapsed. Remember, the foundation in Manhattan is pure rock, which allows for such large buildings to be constructed in the first place.














The WTC buildings were designed to withstand the impact of a 707. A 707 is within 10 % of gross weight and fuel capacity of a 767. In the videos the buildings collapse in a fashion that is reminiscent of the controlled demolition of large buildings (like Las Vegas hotels). This is HIGHLY unlikely and defies the very laws of physics. By the way, the name of the Company cleaning up the debris of the WTC buildings was “Controlled Demolition, Inc.”! What a coincidence.

What makes these collapses strange is the fact that the collapses are completely vertical which means the buildings goes down the path of HIGHEST RESISTANCE. It would be much more logical if the top part of the buildings tipped over to the sides.

The firemen’s radio transmissions are classified. Why? Did they talk about bombs going off in the buildings? The fact is that many eyewitnesses reported hearing explosions go off in the buildings.

7 of the 20 hijackers have been confirmed to be still alive AFTER 9/11.

The government has claimed that passengers made cell phone calls from the hijacked airplanes. The airplanes at the time of those calls were flying at 20,000 ft or above. A study by a British Professor, making cell calls out of a fibreglass (non metal) private airplane has concluded that such calls were impossible above an altitude of 2000 ft above ground level!!!! If you’ve ever tried to make cell phone calls in an airplane you’d know that the phone simply will not get reception.

The buildings collapsed in unprecedented fashion killing thousands and yet there was never an independent investigation into the cause. Why?
The public was prevented to photograph the 9/11 debris. Why?
The “FAILED” hardened construction steel from the towers was immediately shipped off to China without any examination by independent experts. Why?
$50 million was spent on the space shuttle Columbia accident investigation (which resulted in 7 deaths), yet only $3 million was spent on the 9/11 investigation (which resulted in 2,800 deaths). Why?
Did the government already know the cause of the collapse?
George Bush’s strange behaviour

Bush claims he saw the first airplane hit the first tower live on TV the morning of 9/11 (download above audio clip). The interesting thing is that the video of the first hit was not made public until after 9/11.

Bush was reading to a class at Booker Elementary School in Florida when the 2nd plane hit around 9:06 AM. His chief of staff informed him of the 2nd airplane by whispering something in his ear for about 5 seconds. By this time Bush MUST know that this is no “accident” (which is what he claimed he thought of the first hit), but rather a terrorist attack of unprecedented proportions. Yet Bush GAVE NO INSTRUCTIONS. EVEN MORE STRANGELY, the secret service does not intervene to protect him. Instead, Bush keeps reading with the children about a pet goat for another 20 minutes! Does this indicate just plain incompetence or prior knowledge?



Temperatures achieved in a jet fuel fire usually do not exceed 800º C. More fuel does not mean higher temperatures but merely a bigger fire of the same temperature. The optimal temperature reached by jet fuel is achieved by the optimum amount of oxygen introduced to the flame.
Ideal conditions of burning jet fuel are achieved in a jet engine, where an air compressor delivers optimum amounts of oxygen all the time. In a jet engine, the maximum burning temperature is about 800º C.
Hardened construction steel does not soften at 800º C. It may start weakening at 1000º-1200º C and melts at 2000º C. To prove this point keep in mind that you cannot use a jet fuel based fire to form a horseshoe to fit a horse’s hoof. It’s not possible with fossil fuels; they just do not burn hot enough. On the other hand, think about a kerosene (exactly what jet fuel is) heater. Those are made out of low-grade tin and the kerosene fire does not melt it! All because jet fuel DOES NOT BURN HOT ENOUGH to even melt tin.
Despite the worst attacks in America's history just happening three months ago and the anthrax attacks on America, Bush sums up 2001 as a "fabulous year" for himself and his wife Laura

Also, Bush feels that 9/11 was an “interesting day”

Passenger Lists
The official United and American Airlines passenger lists do not have ANY of the hijackers names on them. Look for yourselves:
www.cnn.com...
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Where’s the Boeing?
The biggest piece of Pentagon aircraft debris made public is a 2x3 foot piece of sheet metal. Where are any recognizable pieces of this Boeing that allegedly hit? The landing gear should ALWAYS survive.
Footage of the Concorde crash in Paris a few years shows the landing gear intact with the wheels and tires still on it even after a very severe fire! It fell in freefall straight down from 2000ft. The landing gear is one of the strongest and most recognizable parts in any crash. It is designed to take the load of many times the airplane’s weight yet the government failed to find it at the Pentagon crash site.
Small Impact Hole
The initial impact hole in the pentagon is only roughly 30 ft in diameter after which a portion of the building collapses. Was this really a Boeing 757 with 150ft + wingspan hitting?




The first motive would be to create a reason to go to war. Why war? There are many reasons. One motive is to extend/build a dominant US world empire. In light of diminishing world oil reserves, getting control of 10% of world oil reserves (Iraq), restarting the US economy with wartime production, reducing unemployment with enlisting more and more younger soldiers etc. Another motive is control over the US population. A terrorist event would, and did, unite America like no other event. It furthermore made it acceptable for Americans to deliberately give up their freedoms in exchange for the government protecting us from the “terrorists”, no questions asked


reply posted on 24-11-2003 @ 11:47 AM by Dravenn
Holy #.. no pun intended, but i think that by reading this board, we are all more stupid than before we came into here. For one thing, that first paragraph doesn't have a single period in it at all... do you know what a period is for... it is not to end a sentence like school teaches you, It is a method to allow our eyes a break when we are reading # like this. I mean granted, you put some research into this and I honor you for this, but I really cannot see what you are trying to say.. Maybe if you had some periods, I could have understood things better, but I feel like my skull was just hit by a MAC truck. This was no setup, no coverup from clinton.. This is all bush and him and his fathers disire to rule the middle east. They are going to play the blame game in every Mid east country that they can other than Isreal because we have already blind folded them... Remember, 15 of the 19 terriorist from 9-11 were Saudi, but the Royal Saudi family was allow to leave the US 2 days after the attacks... No questions... And what is worse.. they were allowed to fly out...and this was during the no fly time. So you tell me, you think bush had nothing to do with this and clinton and yogi bear set this up, all I can say is...... Ummm no... I have said this in a few post today and it is really starting to mean something to me.. So what the hell... We are in a Matrix ourself.... While we are in Zion, the rest are in the Matrix.... So forget what you know, find out hole deep the rabbit hole really is..

[Edited on 24-11-2003 by Dravenn]

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