I've been reading alot of the posts here, nad it almost felt like i was intruding on some web site wholly committed to discussing American issues, as if that was important! Anyhow, this is the internet, so technically no man's land, and there was no real forum for slinging mud Canadian style, so this post is here for anyone who wishes to make any comments regarding Canadian poltics, foreign policy, economics, latest hockey scores, military weakness, status of healthcare, NAFTA, border controls with the US, and anything else.

Here is a starter, do you believe that Paul Martin will make a good prime minister, which he will undoubtably be in a couple months, atleast until the first election, and if not, why, and also who would you choose to be PM?
Do you think Canada needs to invest more money and materials to its military, a)to help George W, b)to help the UN, or c)to invade the US, or d)all of the above?

[Edited on 23-11-2003 by jawapunk]

I think that the Canadian military needs to make it safe to operate in combat conditions. Therefore, money needs to be spent.

Item B) Paul martin will make a mediocre PM, much like the last few. I've been highly unimpressed.

DE

First of all I have to say that I am thrilled that Chretien is soon gone. I cannot stand him and never did.

Regarding Martin, what can I say.
He is an old boys network globalist socialist that will steal all the ideas of the Alliance party so they can CONTINUE to stay in power. This will likely work as most Canadians are dumb anyways. Oh yeah, much dumber than Americans when it comes to politics, take my word for it.

I hope the new Conservative-Alliance can win the next federal election but with Canadian's poor memory of the past and their desparation for government programs then I fear that Martin may actually be elected.

The Canadian Military?

Is that not an oxymoron of sorts?

the alliance party?

you mean the Canadian neo-nazi party? They will have a difficult time getting votes in central or eastern canada, even with a union of the conservatives. Just too many damn bigots, and racist statements. Even if they harbour those feelings they have to be smart enough to know its political suicide to mkae those remarks. And there has to be a serious problem out west if they actually want such a party in power. I'm not saying i am for the liberals but i wouldn't be able to live with myself if i voted alliance.

All i can say about politics is Gordon Campbell is the most Ruthless Premier BC has had yet and i can't wait to vote is ass outta here!

Millitary .. It's a bit of a Joke. But we have a hell of a lot of Uranium so if we really wanted to we could technically use that against anyone who tried to pose a real threat to our Country.

jawa,

the way you make those comments it makes me wonder if most of the critics of the Alliance are not the hate mongerers and racists themselves.

I think that Paul Martin may be ok. I think he is more business minded than Chretien, so that could be good for Canada. I just hope he has the balls to stand up to threats from the US and not go hopping into bed with Dubya.

man,

i 'm just calling it like i see it. I'm not on a public platform, cameras etc... spouting off racist rhetoric. There is no room, or use for that kind of mindset in such a diverse country that is Canada. I don't hate the Alliance, they seem to do the most damage to themselves, and its a shame that that is the only major party that the west has to offer. The east has the NDP, but they are far too left to be a realistic option, and sometimes i think half of their political agenda is just to disagree with anything put on the table by the ruling party just for the sake of being argumentative and gettting airtime.
Also, i'm not saying anything about the people out west, i lived in Calgary for seven years of my life and know to some degree the problems they face, i'm no expert, but i can still have an opinion. Have you ever been out east Neo? You wrote in a post that ontario is "propping" up the maritimes, but i don't think you fully realize the reality of whats going on out here.

greenkool,

ultimately Martin is still a Liberal or is it Lieberal?

How can he be okay?


jawap,

there is nothing wrong with the alliance, all that is wrong is that the liberal controlled media in Canada tells people that are afraid to think for themselves how to think and vote.

Yes I have been down east and known quite a number of east coasters in my day. Lets see now, been around gaspe bay, seen a lot of New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, been to Cape Breton, saw a good part of PEI, been to Newfoundland but only west coast so far though. Have not been to Labrador but I have an aunt from there so what do I need to know that I don't already?

So tell me what is the big mystery?

Originally posted by jawapunk
I've been reading alot of the posts here, nad it almost felt like i was intruding on some web site wholly committed to discussing American issues, as if that was important!

HAHA you make me laf jawapunk. Our business is your business. America could cripple your economy with one executive order. Foreign policy enacted by our President affects everyone, thats why so many people don't like him. I am of the opinion that Canadian society is one of the most progressive in the world. This is great! they're a pioneer and the world will soon look up to Canada for guidance on how to run a proper democratic society.

I lived in Calgary for a little over a year 1999-2000 and everyone I knew was a yankee hating conservative. Their opinions of John Chretien reflect yours so I know what you mean. The west is severely neglected in terms of handouts and government contracts but Alberta and BC do not need it as much as Sask and Manitoba. Bragging rights, the security and appreciation that Alberta is one of the only provinces capable of supporting itself and the rest of the nation keep people optimistic about their conservative ideas. But what works out west does not necessarily work in the urban and poorer areas of the country where the majority of the poulation live. So it's sad that the west is exploited but at the same time it's necessary to provide the social benefits your country is famous for.

Originally posted by insite
HAHA you make me laf jawapunk. Our business is your business. America could cripple your economy with one executive order. Foreign policy enacted by our President affects everyone, thats why so many people don't like him. I am of the opinion that Canadian society is one of the most progressive in the world. This is great! they're a pioneer and the world will soon look up to Canada for guidance on how to run a proper democratic society.

I think maybe he was joking.

I think some more money spent on the Military would be a good thing. For starters proper Cammo wearing green in the middle of a desert is a bad bad idea. Go Canucks Go.

well there is no mystery, but you've stated before that the ontario props up the east, and it just isn't true, i mean the amount of money given out here is less than the amount of subsidized farming out west, and what happens when the Alberta oil sands are gone? I'm also saying that the alliance does not have a national agenda, nad like the parti Quebecoise, who are regionalized, they will never get a national majority. And big media did not fabricate what came out of those peoples mouths, jeez. Next you'll be telling me you agree with some of the stuff that was said about asians and immigrants, about how they steal jobs. If you do, i'd like to ask, what type of job do yoiu think an immigrant worker gets?

DeusEx - I think that the Canadian military needs to make it safe to operate in combat conditions. Therefore, money needs to be spent. Item B) Paul martin will make a mediocre PM, much like the last few. I've been highly unimpressed.

Good thing they're not out to impress you.